“Today is about telling the truth, today is about being honest,” Banks said opening the episode, with a dramatic seriousness better reserved for a eulogy, in the absence of a live studio audience. “Because without honesty, there’s no way you can heal.”

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Immediately, there is an imbalance between the two in terms of how seriously to actually take this conversation, with Banks getting teary-eyed in the first few seconds of talking to Campbell, who pats her arms sympathetically. It’s unclear how upset Banks thinks Campbell is going to be when she presents her with a list of offensive incidents, and throughout Campbell is smiling and politely affirming incidents like when she called Banks “the B-word” at a show or got upset that photographers were styling Banks like her with dry “oh my gods.” At one point Banks says that modeling was “one of the most difficult times in her entire life,” and Campbell replies that while she loves modeling, “it’s not that deep.”

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Banks explains at the top of the episode that their rivalry was orchestrated by the press, endorsed by an industry that would only give black models one spot at a time in the top tier of supermodels. And while the press certainly did churn an arguably racist feud between the two models, Banks comes to the table more interested in walking through Campbell’s alleged attacks which apparently weren’t orchestrated by the press, which included Campbell throwing her out of a Versace show, telling Banks she’ll “never be me,” and asking photographers to stop working with her (all of which Campbell denies).

“To be honest Naomi, I am fearful of you to this day,” Banks says. But at the end of it all Banks seems confident that the two have begun their process “of healing,” and Campbell apologizes to her straight-up for how she’s affected her.

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It’s unclear how the process of healing worked in practice (perhaps the two went crystal shopping off camera?) as Banks and Campbell would continue to talk about the feud for years to come. “The world told her, ‘There can only be one and here is the new one and Naomi, you better back up.’ So she reacted very strongly to something that was already negative,” Banks told Howard Stern in 2010. “You know that movie Showgirls? Just do that and make it the modeling industry. My life was a living hell.”

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In 2012 when the modeling reality show The Face premiered with Campbell as a judge, The New York Daily News reported that Campbell had told model Coco Rocha that if she signed onto The Face she could never appear on ANTM again. The Face opened up a new era of Campbell and Banks comparisons, suddenly with the roles reversed: Naomi was now walking in Tyra’s shadow.

Fielding comparisons between The Face and ANTM, Campbell told Elle in 2013, “I don’t watch the other reality model shows. I’ll never have anything to say. If you ask me about Tyra Banks, I’m proud of her as a woman of color. She’s given girls opportunity, and God bless her.” Proud of Tyra and has never watched ANTM. Got it! When a reporter who is perhaps braver than the Marines asked Campbell that same year if she would continue even further in Banks’s footsteps in terms of her TV career, Campbell replied, “I’m not looking at anyone else’s career. I would consider a chat show but it would have to be in the right way. I’m not out to get anyone. I know what that feels like.” Elsewhere she is clear that winners of The Face will, you know, actually be famous, unlike those ANTM girls.

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Then on an episode of Watch What Happens Live when Andy Cohen asks Campbell on the status her friendship with Banks, Campbell tries, once again, to put a definitive end to the rumors that they still have beef:

We are in a good friendship... I really do not feel, and it does bug me and irk me that two women of the same ilk, we’re women of color, have to be pitted against each other, and that’s something I always felt back then. When I did Tyra’s show...we cleared that up! I’m very proud of Tyra and what she’s done with America’s Next Top Model... I’m proud of her, I’m proud to know her, and I’m not into the pitting game.

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But as much as Campbell flogged herself in the press for being sorry for her past altercations with Banks, Banks, an adult woman, still expressed some fear towards Campbell. In 2016, Banks told the press of Campbell, “to this day I’m very scared of her.” And while she still credits the pressures of the industry for Campbell’s behavior, Banks hasn’t entirely absolved her. In 2018 talking to Buzzfeed News, she said:

All the press said get over Naomi, step back, there’s a new black girl in town... Of course that person who has that spot, the incumbent, is going to get nervous. Now she got very nervous and was extreme in her nervousness but as an adult I understand it and I get it. Would I do that? Hell to the no. I wouldn’t do that based on my mom and how she raised me but I’d probably be scared as hell.

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It doesn’t matter how old they get or how many times they insist they’ve made amends: Naomi Campbell will apparently always be the powerful megabitch, and Tyra Banks will always be the nervous girl-next-door, with a simmering rivalry not quite ready to be moved off the burner.