Per another now-deleted TikTok from last week, which you can still watch via other TikToks that have stitched it, a casino manager posting anonymously through a filter recounts Affleck and Lopez’s 2021 Vegas trip, during which Lopez brought her mom with them. According to the casino manager, one of her cocktail servers spent her entire shift and “an extra hour-and-a-half over” taking care of Affleck. By the end of her shift, Lopez joined Affleck, who then gave the waitress a $10,000 tip. “Her entire shift was just him, so no other tips,” the manager explained.

She continued, “[Lopez] immediately snatched the money from the tray, said ‘hell no,’ took it back. [Affleck] was so mortified that the next day, when Tiffany [the waitress] came into work, there was a note that said he profusely apologized, was completely embarrassed, with a huge bouquet of flowers and $25,000.”

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The couple seems to visit Vegas pretty often, including in July for their first wedding. This prompted the following tweet from Las Vegas Locally, the popular Vegas-based Twitter account for local news and rumors:

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Some of the many replies to the tweet come from people who claim to have firsthand experiences, like one user who said they saw the couple in Vegas during their “first go-around” in the early 2000s. “I witnessed [Lopez] pull back a huge tip from Ben to a dealer at the Hard Rock and replace it with a $20,” they said. Another user wrote, “My ex’s mom was [a] blackjack dealer in the high limits. Said Ben tried to leave a 5k tip then JLo took it back and left a 500 chip.” Someone replied to this tweet to add: “Similar story out of the palms almost 20 years ago. My mom worked day shift and heard that she pulled a $10k tip and left a couple hundred for a grave shift dealer.”

Representatives for Affleck and Lopez did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Jezebel on these claims. But upon some digging through the dustiest of internet archives, I found the rumors about this pattern—of Affleck leaving a sizable tip and Lopez taking it back—date back to 2003. The Mirror in London reported in February 2003 that in Vegas, Lopez was “nicknamed Pay Low among Vegas dealers last November after Affleck left a $5,000 tip and Lopez replaced it with $300.”

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In another incident the tabloid referenced, after winning a big jackpot at a high-stakes poker table, Affleck gave the dealer $2,000 in tips—“but before [the dealer] could pick it up, Lopez grabbed the cash and left $200 instead.” Per the short article, “Affleck is known for his generosity at the tables, twice handing out $150,000 tips to dealers at the Hard Rock. But since becoming engaged to Lopez…she has kept a close hand on his spending.”

A few months later, in July 2003, the Irish Examiner detailed a rumored incident in which, at a pool in Vegas, “under the watchful eye of his tight-fisted bride-to-be, [Affleck] tipped the waiter $100.” When Lopez briefly stepped away, Affleck then allegedly “called the waiter back and slipped him another $500.”

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Take what you will from the recent onslaught of TikToks about Lopez, Affleck, and the great give-and-take (ba-dum, tss!) of their relationship. What I will say is that it’s hardly novel or surprising for celebrities, or rich people in general, to be stingy with service workers—generosity doesn’t exactly go hand-in-hand with wealth hoarding. There are quite literally dozens of celebrities notorious for bad-tipping and general shittiness to wait staff. But what makes rumors about Lopez and Affleck particularly comical—and very sad!!!—is the whole little routine they allegedly have going on.