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Debating Rap, Rape And R&B

It's happening over at Spin, starting with the question of whether rap has become less misogynistic and R&B more so. May we suggest giving the Willis Test a shot in this one?

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DISCUSSION

As long as there are women who say, "I don't care, he's not talking about ME." or "He's just telling like it is, some women are 'hoes." or "I don't listen to the words, I just love to dance to the beat." or "I love a bad boy.", then we will continue to hear these songs.

They aren't popular because of their misogyny. Their popular DESPITE it.

We can debate in our ivory tower here for the rest of our lives.

We aren't the people who are buying it, downloading it, requesting it at the club, dancing to it with our girlfriends at school dances, or bouncing to it in our car on Saturday night with our friends.

You ask, "When will it stop?"

When the young women buying it start saying, "This shit's corny and tired."

But I have to wonder, why was nobody asking this of young ladies, as I am, back in the day when it all about Hair Metal? Didn't exactly see anybody but Tipper Gore and her crowd of censors complaining about woman being compared to power tools, writhing half-naked around in mud on MTV at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, or the endless paeans to hot strippers that were part of the pop landscape of the late 80s and early 90s.

Whatever.

I already know the answer.

Nobody ever seems to complain about the music that was over-the-top and transgressively insulting when they were teens.

It's always the younger generations' music that's fucked up, right?