Group and Jones claim that the solution to this problem is Myco-ZX, an Infowars Life herbal supplement that Global Healing Center markets as Mycozil. (It can be yours for just $54.95 a bottle, although it’s currently sold out at both Infowars and Global Healing.)

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Jones and Group described Belluz’s article as an attack on their fungal science, an attack on the concept of probiotics (although Mycozil isn’t a probiotic), and overall, part of a targeted attack on Infowars by the media.

“This is all tailored to try to get the FDA after me,” Jones growled on air. “They’re coming on every front. Good. That just means I’m telling the truth and taking action.”

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Group agreed, a few minutes later, that fake news and shoddy journalism are “running rampant.”

“But the great news, Alex, is that people are waking up,” he added.

Jones has talked about his own health awakening at length, describing in 2013 how he “found Dr. Group and the things he was doing. I learned stuff from him I didn’t hear from anybody else, that’s been absolutely miraculous.” In the same monologue, he claimed to have begun trying to rid his body of “toxins,” chief among them the mind-controlling, “IQ-crushing” fluoride, which Jones and other conspiracists have argued for years is put in the water supply to dumb us all down. (Mainstream science does not support this view; the CDC recommends fluoridation of the public water supply to prevent cavities.)

Jones also shared that he’d “gotten into supplementation” in the past few years, both ingesting and selling supplements, some of which are of dubious nutritional value. Our colleagues at Gizmodo dubbed them “bullshit cure-alls” in 2015. That designation led Jones to angrily promise a lawsuit and call our former shared parent company, Gawker Media, “a known Democratic party hardcore gay lesbian transgender front group.” (The lawsuit was not immediately forthcoming.)

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In July, Vice’s Motherboard examined some of the key claims behind Infowars Life products, finding no concrete data to back up many of them. Jones and Group, for example, often promote “nascent iodine,” which has no proven superiority over regular iodine, found in many foods and table salt. They also regularly recommend colloidal silver products, including a liquid product, apparently intended to be taken by mouth, called Silver Bullet. The FDA recommends against taking any product containing silver orally, saying it has “ no known physiological functions or benefits.” It can also cause argyria, a condition that causes skin, gums, nails, or the whites of the eyes to permanently turn bluish-grey. Group and Jones can be seen on air promoting liquid colloidal silver in a 2015 video:

“It’s one of my favorite things to have at all times, and it’s one of the things I would recommend everybody use,” Group told a caller in a broadcast from 2015. “Not only does it boost your immune system and many many other uses, but it’s also one of those things that you need to have good stock of in case of like a pandemic like Ebola or something like that.”

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Like Jones, Group is a Texas native, an Army veteran who says he served in the 1/506 Infantry Regiment at Camp Greaves, Korea. He founded Global Healing in 1998, according to his official biography, after earning a Doctor of Chiropractic degree from Texas Chiropractic College, which would technically allow him to use the title “Doctor.” Group also has degrees in nutrition and used to list himself as having a Director of Medicine (MD) degree from Joseph LaFortune School of Medicine, although as Vice noted, that claim no longer appears on his website. (You can still see it in other bios of him scattered around the internet.) The Joseph LaFortune School is based in Haiti, is not accredited, and was sued by the Florida State Attorney General in 2011 for defrauding medical and nursing students, by falsely promising they could get licensed after they graduated. He also lists credentials from Harvard Business School and MIT’s Sloan School of Management; in both cases, those are continuing education certificates. Group attended Harvard Business’s Owner/President Management Program, as did Tyra Banks.

Group’s main passion is cleansing and detoxing, and GHC’s flagship product is Oxy-Powder Colon Cleanser, which promises to use the power of oxygen “ to gently cleanse and detoxify your entire digestive tract.” Its main ingredient is a large amount of magnesium, which is well-known to cause diarrhea when taken in excess. (Global Healing, meanwhile, says that the “watery, extremely soft and easily passed stools similar to diarrhea” caused by Oxy-Powder are not, in fact, diarrhea, but “a normal reaction and a sign you are cleansing properly.”)

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By 2006, Group was trying to get FDA approval for another product called Paratrex, which he claimed “created a hostile environment to parasites” in the body. The FDA told him not to make that claim, and Paratrex, like many nutritional supplements, is not FDA-approved to treat or cure any disease. Global Healing currently promotes that Paratrex eliminates “toxic and harmful organisms” from the body. In 2006, according to FDA records, Global Healing was also sent a warning letter for their product ViraZAP, which they were marketing as a treatment for avian flu. (A followup FDA inspection in 2006 found that the company had stopped claiming the product was a treatment for the disease; it no longer appears to be for sale on the GHC website).

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According to Vice, Group has also claimed that the FDA “raided” his offices in the past for selling colloidal silver. According to an FDA document from July 2006, the first visit to the GHC offices was probably triggered by the marketing of ViraZAP. Subsequently, an FDA inspector wrote, “The firm agreed to remove any and all drug related claims from their supplements, promotional material, and product websites by August 30, 2006.” Records show that the FDA has made routine visits to GHC between 2006 and 2016, issuing citations for minor issues: not having written protocols for “preventing microbial contamination from sick or infected personnel” in 2010, and failing to check suppliers’ invoices to make sure they matched orders in 2016.

Today, the thirteen Infowars Life products bought from Global Healing include Super Male Vitality, which is, according to Infowars, “specifically designed to assist the body in regulating proper balance to create superior vitality in males, and has been used by Alex Jones in order to maximize vitality when working up to 12 hours a day or more in the fight for freedom.” Global Healing Center markets the same product as Androtrex, “ designed to assist the body in regulating proper hormone balance to create superior vitality, energy, sexual drive, and overall wellness in males.” (There’s also Super Female Vitality to assist the ladies, although not specifically in their quest for liberty.)

The Jones/Group alliance has also led to some interestingly awkward situations. Group, for example, frequently promotes a vegan diet; Jones has said on air that “grass-eating” is a globalist plot to keep the populace docile, and that animal fats are necessary for superior brain function. (A few Global Healing customers apparently contacted the company in outrage after that one.)

Unlike Jones, Group wasn’t onboard the Trump train from the start: Both Group and his wife Daniela, a naturopathic doctor on Global Healing Center’s payroll, donated $2,700 to Marco Rubio’s campaign in December 2015, records show. But the now-president evidently won him over, and these days he’s an avid supporter. Group apparently hoped that Trump would support a healthcare reform effort that paid more attention to natural health efforts, and rolled back limits on “medical freedom.” From a press release GHC wrote that was reprinted on Infowars:

Dr. Group asks President-elect Trump to assemble a team of scientists, experts, and independent researchers with no ties to the pharmaceutical, food, or chemical industries to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of all artificial ingredients, genetically modified foods, artificial sweeteners, colors, dyes, fluoride, herbicides, pesticides, phthalates, refined sugars, preservatives, and other toxic compounds added to, or used in our food and beverage production. He also recommends appointing a third-party research team with no ties to the pharmaceutical industry to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of vaccines and flu shots.

Dr. Group is volunteering his time, efforts, and expertise to begin this conversation and work towards healing America. America can’t be great again until we make America healthy again.

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While the GHC staff is fairly diverse when it comes to political views, people who aren’t Trump fans feel uncomfortable voicing their views, one person told us: “Unfortunately, we are basically tarred and feathered for being honest about our own political views. Managers act as pro-Trump goons and lash out at anyone who has the nerve to voice a different opinion from Dr. Group’s.”

While it’s tough gauge what Jones actually believes and what he doesn’t—a subject, as we’ve seen recently, that can fill hours of court testimony—what’s indisputably true is that Group’s appearances on Jones’s show are a fun mixture of paranoia and product-peddling; one appearance from 2014 leads seamlessly from a discussion about what they’ll do in the event of a mass Ebola outbreak (Group shares that he has a secret hiding place near a national forest, stocked with silver and oregano oil), to a conversation about colon cleansing. “It’s just absolutely pleasant and flushes you out,” Jones beams, referring to Oxy-Powder. “Dynamite.”

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But that’s not enough, apparently. These days, Group may have political ambitions of his own. Said one source at the company, “I’ve heard about his political goals through coworkers, but I don’t think I’ve heard him say anything about it in person.”

But according to another, “It’s gotten so much worse since Trump won. Group has said multiple times he wants to run for office and he’s using us to further that.”

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Perhaps no one better articulated Group’s potential than Jones, when he said back in 2013: “We’ve got to go all the way, and not just leave Babylon, not just come out of Egypt, but actually build a new promised land. And there is no silver bullet, but there’s a process.” And it involves, apparently, a whole lot of colon cleansing.

This story was produced by Gizmodo Media Group’s Special Projects Desk.