I love how smart this is- of course Carlson and his posse are only offended when someone tries to change male-centered language. Hope you're ok with it working the other way around, fatherfucker!
One of my friends has taken up the habit of calling somebody a "scrote" instead of a "pussy" if they are whiny or cowardly. Because "the pussy is strong! The scrotum is so sensitive it has to be protected at all times!" This logic makes sense to me, but my husband hates it when I call somebody a scrote. I think it makes him feel marginalized, but I have a hard time giving a shit, to be honest.
@yinyang: AM SO USING THIS. Because seriously, pussies have huge baby heads squeezed out of them, while a scrotum shrivels in on itself if you even look at it weird. You tell me what the weaker genital is.
Jeeze, every time folks are brought to the realization that history in books is being changed by the writers, they get all crazy about things. *sigh*
Of course, most everyone here I'm sure knows of the fantastic book "Lies My Teacher Told Me", but if you have in interest in actual school textbook evolution, I highly recommend "History in the Making: An Absorbing Look at How American History Has Changed in the Telling over the Last 200 Years" by Kyle Ward. Awesome stuff. And being a Texan (but one who dwells in the truth of our state, one who while being proud of it can fully admit its faults), the fact that the Mexican-American War goodness was the bit of the book they outlined on NPR back when it first came out.
Yes, heaven forbid we acknowledge that both men and women are in Congress, or that even prehistoric people were not all male, or even that many women played a big role in the founding of this nation (even if we don't hear about them much because they were serving in unofficial, unrecognized roles). Fuck you, Tucker Carlson, and your little bow tie too.
After studying French and a little bit of Latin, I think the problem is that our language doesn't inherit the tradition of gendering nouns that many of it's root languages had.
We've been trained to think of the male gender in nouns as the natural state, and anything else sounds strange to our ear. Really there is no substantive difference between, say, Doctor, Doctrix and Docere, except one is male, female and genderless.
I know my girlfriend, who is working on her PhD. would much rather have Docere on the degree if she can't have Doctrix.
@amowls: I feel I understand both sides of the debate. Yes, in a society like ours that is still heavily patriarchal and misogynist it's a better option to have gender neutrality. Congressperson is better than congressman.
The flipside though is that it might be unhealthy or unsatisfying not to be proud or at least affirming of our individual differences. The reason she wants Doctrix rather than Doctor is because she feels that one term implies that legitimacy is only attainable if you gender yourself male, and she is proud of being female.
In a society that was truly gender equal, I don't think it would matter which of the three you used.
I hate to admit this, but I find Tucker Carlson to be kind of attractive, in a really dickish, nerdy way. I'd just have to duct tape his mouth shut before the coitus. And possibly slap him around a little bit beforehand, those uptight white guys tend to secretly enjoy that.
Yeah, that's right Tucker, I'll marginalize you. I'll marginalize you all night long...
Um, Tucker, "caveman" is offensive reasons unrelated to gender...
Not to mention, I doubt most textbooks even used "caveman." The shift was more likely from "prehistoric man" to "prehistoric humans." When talking about people before homo sapiens, books use the specific species name.
Is the nomenclature not 'congressman/congresswoman'? I thought that was still the common usage and was adjusted to be gender-appropriate as applicable.
@thegogglesdonothing: I believe it's for when there is a mixed group of men and women - the whole of Congress is made up of Members of Congress, as opposed to Congressmen.
@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: I've been calling my tits "hand-warmers" for years. (Or "stress-balls" depending on the guy's enthusiasm/incompetence.)
This is the thing that really gets me, this resentment not of "promoting" the concerns of women and people of color, but the resentment of losing first-class status. And it's not like women and people of color are GETTING that first-class status... hopefully eventually there won't BE classes, but some of these guys just don't get that that would be FAIR.
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Of course, most everyone here I'm sure knows of the fantastic book "Lies My Teacher Told Me", but if you have in interest in actual school textbook evolution, I highly recommend "History in the Making: An Absorbing Look at How American History Has Changed in the Telling over the Last 200 Years" by Kyle Ward. Awesome stuff. And being a Texan (but one who dwells in the truth of our state, one who while being proud of it can fully admit its faults), the fact that the Mexican-American War goodness was the bit of the book they outlined on NPR back when it first came out.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6517854
(I hate that URLs don't link anymore, copy and paste is annoying, sorry.)
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Damn you women and minorities for wanting to be included in the HIStory's you helped make possible! For shame!
Also, shame on "reality" for not conforming to this idiots desire for all men, all the time.
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We've been trained to think of the male gender in nouns as the natural state, and anything else sounds strange to our ear. Really there is no substantive difference between, say, Doctor, Doctrix and Docere, except one is male, female and genderless.
I know my girlfriend, who is working on her PhD. would much rather have Docere on the degree if she can't have Doctrix.
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The flipside though is that it might be unhealthy or unsatisfying not to be proud or at least affirming of our individual differences. The reason she wants Doctrix rather than Doctor is because she feels that one term implies that legitimacy is only attainable if you gender yourself male, and she is proud of being female.
In a society that was truly gender equal, I don't think it would matter which of the three you used.
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Yeah, that's right Tucker, I'll marginalize you. I'll marginalize you all night long...
I'll be in my bunk.
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@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Margarine-alize all night long?
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Not to mention, I doubt most textbooks even used "caveman." The shift was more likely from "prehistoric man" to "prehistoric humans." When talking about people before homo sapiens, books use the specific species name.
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'The caveperson strapped a saddle to the triceratops's back and rode through the garden of Eden.'
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