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whynotshesaid
07/29/09

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I am so sorry I missed this! I hope they rerun it.
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Acquanetta
07/28/09

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Read the Hite Report.
Just do.
Then be so thankful.
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save jinger
07/28/09

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I got my first real vibrator
Bought it at the five-and-dime
Used it 'till my fingers bled
It was the summer of 69
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
07/28/09

@save jinger:
Me and some guys from school
Had an orgy and we "tried" real hard
Jimmy's gay, Joey got married
Shoulda known, they'd never want more
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vivianthelibrarian
07/28/09

@save jinger: Hah, Bryan Adams would be so proud.
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save jinger
07/28/09

@vivianthelibrarian: Everything I do, I do it for him.
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the_pest
07/28/09

@save jinger: When it's love you give
I'll be a vibe of good faith
Then in love you live,
I'll make a stand. I won't break
I'll be the rock you can build on,
Be there when you're old,
To have and to hold.
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LikeALady
07/28/09

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It's hard for me, a 24 year old woman, to imagine what it was like to live in pre-1969 America and not really be able to talk about sex or access the knowledge of how to make sex more about the woman's pleasure.

Personally, I think the greatest feminist revolution took place much earlier, when in the course of evolution human females developed the clitoris. After having spent most of the modern centuries thinking that sticking their penises into a woman's vagina was all it would take for women to experience sexual pleasure, men discovering that female orgasms mostly came from the clitoris (which has no reproductive function) must have been like God popping out from underneath the covers and saying "Gotcha!"
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mattharvest
07/28/09

@LikeALady:the female orgasm, contrary to your hypothesis, is extremely important to conception and reproduction. Orgasm dramatically increases the likelihood of conception (drawing semen towards the uterus, among other things), and the neurochemical reactions lead to bonding between the woman and her mate (encouraging repeat performance).
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Vancougar
07/28/09

@mattharvest:
I believe she was saying that the clitoris has no reproductive function, which I think is true...
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mattharvest
07/28/09

@Vancougar: no, it's no, as I already explained. It's integral to the female orgasm, and the orgasm has an integral component in reproductive function. Saying it has no reproductive function is like saying the female orgasm has no reproductive function. Statistically, of the women who orgasm during sex, almost all of them require some clitoral contact (including indirect, e.g. through the interior wall).
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LawFairy
07/28/09

@mattharvest: I'm pretty sure the point was that it isn't intrinsically biologically linked to reproductive function. Women don't *have* to have an orgasm to reproduce, although it's much more fun to do so.

So, although its function is CONDUCIVE to orgasm, it's not a part of the reproductive system. Kind of like how, for instance, taking prenatal vitamins can HELP you conceive, but they are neither necessary nor sufficient for reproduction (and usually have benefits aside from helping conception).
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LikeALady
07/28/09

@LikeALady: how important female orgasm is to conception is a debatable topic, but I was focusing more on the old (and unfortunately still present) assumption that p-i-v sex was all that was necessary for a woman to orgasm (and if you couldn't you were therefore frigid or defective) and thus the realization that the clitoris, which is outside the vagina, is the biggest tool for female orgasm was a huge blow to the proponents of the 'women aren't sexual beings their only purpose is to breed' belief.
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MilointheMeadow
07/28/09

@mattharvest: I think what people are saying is that while it may *assist* conception, the female orgasm is completely unnecessary in order for reproduction to take place. Conception may occur with or without female orgasm, thus making it unnecessary for reproduction.

I happen to think this makes female orgasm especially awesome, because then one of its primary functions is to give women pleasure!
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Ms. Nickels
07/28/09

@MilointheMeadow: The so-called "up-suck" hypothesis has been disproved. Female orgasms do not make conception any more (or less) likely from that instance of copulation. They may, however, make a female more likely to mate with the orgasm-inducing male again.

One adaptationist theory holds that female orgasms require something in addition to p-in-v as a mechanism for females to test male investment. If he makes you come, he must care. Maybe he'll even care enough to help feed your children!
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MilointheMeadow
07/28/09

@Ms. Nickels: Wow, that makes female orgasm and the clitoris even more awesome! The whole "to test male investment" is really interesting.
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RainyDayWoman
07/28/09

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does anyone else notice how most of the 'sex' programs (also, 'The History of Sex') on the history channel actually explore things like feminism and gender and race roles, like more than any other program on the channel?
That was kind of a long-winded question, but I guess I find it interesting, for a few different reasons. Anyway, I watched last night, and it was pretty interesting
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whynotshesaid
07/29/09

@RainyDayWoman: It's a nice change from their typical macho-heavy programming, which is all about wars and biker gangs and other "boy" things I find terribly tedious.
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Penny
07/28/09

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I've heard Anton interviewed on NPR, and I really liked her.

That lady's face is priceless. I can't decided if she's curious or horrified.
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NefariousNewt
07/28/09

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Caught part of this last night, and wished I had seen the whole thing. And Susan Anton is awesome.
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Jenloveshercurves
07/28/09

@NefariousNewt: I really like what she had to say on this clip. I feel alot of the time, I'm defending beauty queens on here and the time and place of pageantry. My grandmother viewed pageants as a way for women to get into college and fund their educations. In many ways it was subversive, I'm going to use you and your thoughts about me to get ahead because I have no other agency to do so. Also, I kind of liked being in pageants. I got to preform.
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