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Really the only way they could do a 99.9% no offensive content thing would be to screen all photos and posts. #rapeculture
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I mean, I've seen whole groups of Facebook users dedicated to reporting hate groups of certain stripes. I'm a member of one that looks out for homophobic groups, and a new group to report gets posted pretty much every day. And Facebook has only been able to remove about five of the ones we've targeted. I'm sure they're pretty swamped with these requests.
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I'm MUCH more upset at the people who participated in the group. #rapeculture
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Based on what I read, although I am horrified, I cannot say, particularly given the other things I keep seeing and seeing and seeing these days, that I'm surprised. #rapeculture
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A witch hunt is a search for witches or evidence of witchcraft, often involving moral panic, mass hysteria and lynching. The classical period of witchhunts in Europe falls into the Early Modern period or about 1480 to 1700, spanning the upheavals of the Reformation and the Thirty Years' War, resulting in an estimated 40,000 to 100,000 executions. The term "witch-hunt" is often used by analogy to refer to panic-induced searches for perceived wrong-doers other than witches. ([en.wikipedia.org])
Let me know if you need any more help understanding.
#thinkoftherapists #rapeculture
07:34 PM
If they weren't advocating rape, then the group wouldn't have been taken down or censured. Sounds like the school has a problem with sexual violence and this was just another version of it. The article says it promoted and publicized rape culture.
That's not a witch hunt. #rapeculture
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There you go. Statutory, defined. Your group is now redundant and I invite you to cram it up your ass sideways.
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The idea that any group of young men think rape is okay, and encouraging rape is even better, is absolutely abhorrent. I hope action is taken against the students who are at the school currently. It probably won't be, but hey, I can hope. #rapeculture
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It's an all-male school, so I imagine they don't have anything on the books that addresses encouraging sexual violence; there might, though, be rules in place regarding student representation of the school's standards of morals and behavior in society. But with an admittedly misogynist culture firmly in place, it's why I said I can hope that something would be done to punish this sort of behavior, even if it's only in a "hey, you being a stupid asshole on the Internet damages our school's reputation" way. This is why I said I hoped action would be taken against current students, men who would fall under the school's jurisdiction.
(Again, I am fully aware that nothing will be done about this. The site no longer exists, and there's really no incentive for the school to take action against offending students, so... there you go.) #rapeculture
07:31 PM
My high school suspended a kid for calling two of his teachers "hot" on a Facebook group, under the charge that it was "sexual harassment." If schools had suspend a kid for something that trivial involving Facebook, surely they can suspend a student for this. #rapeculture
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edit: Well, I didn't realize what Saint Paul's was. They may actually have a more stringent code of conduct that would actually deal with shit like this.
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It's like, if I made a website called "Drive Drunk" advocating drunk driving, or a facebook page that detailed how to make a bomb or how to make crystal meth, or how awesome it is to shoplift at target, I'd be advocating illegal behavior. But I can't actually even think of something comparable to rape, excluding other hate crimes. Like, a facebook page that was "Pro-murdering fags" or something. Because even something about how to build bombs wouldn't be targeting a specific, and oppressed, group.
And also you totally can get expelled from college for being an asshole. If you can get expelled for, say, cheating on an exam (not illegal), or not paying your tuition (not illegal), or throwing water balloons at the president of the university (not illegal and also my dad totally got expelled from university in the 70s for doing this), they why couldn't you get expelled for publicly encouraging rape? #rapeculture
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[www.usyd.edu.au]
St Pauls is an individual entity, so these fucksticks are going to have to be dealt with by the College. Who have a real elitist classist patriarchal WASP image to uphold, so hopefully they'll kick these mongrel students out. *I live in hope* #rapeculture
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I cast a look over some of the alumni of the college, and a few of them are people with a bit of clout amongst the younger demographic - if they started to denounce and rail and bitch and point out how wrong wrong wrong this all is, then maybe maybe there'll be a little change in attitudes. But today I'm cynical & bitter, so I don't expect change. #rapeculture
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But if they do delete things due to people notifiying them- and no one did this time, thats almost as upsetting. #rapeculture
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This article: [www.child-abuse-effects.com] says the rate is as high as 83%. #rapestatistics
11/05/09
That said, even people with less severe disabilities can be sexually abused in relatively high numbers. It usually happens in institutions, such as school for the deaf/blind. I know it's particularly bad within the Deaf population - lack of sex ed, communication with police or even hotlines. #rapestatistics
11/06/09
Part of the issue - which is present in all areas of rape culture - is that the victims are dehumanized. Not only by their abusers, but by society at large. Many people are content to believe the people I worked with don't even exist, and it's hard to care about atrocities against people you don't even recognize as people. I hope, with all my dark, liberal heart, that if nothing else positive can come from the way public schools have handled inclusion for kids with severe disabilities, this generation of kids will at least have a few more grains of empathy and compassion than the generations without inclusion experiences. #rapestatistics
11/06/09
I sincerely hope that you are right about the impact of mainstreaming. I hope that the backlash doesn't affect the current generation's empathy/compassion issues (although I do think the backlash was really from the parents, not the children).
I was part of the mainstreaming movement (if I was born 20 years before my actual birth date, I would probably have gone to a school for the Deaf.) I've had varying responses to my presence, ranging from appreciation to outright resentment. Fortunately, there were more people in the latter rather than former. #rapestatistics
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Is it just a "no, duh" thing among the powers that be--lawmakers, school administrators, whomever? Am I missing something? Why DON'T schools in at-risk communities include a regular a curriculum against rape that targets would-be victims (girls, but guys as well) and...well...would-be perpetrators? Why isn't a discussion of rape and mutual consent part of school? During grade school, at least once, counselors might make students aware of the concept of sexual assault at the hands of parents or other adults, so why not rape (at the latest, by sixth grade)?
[www.nytimes.com]
This article describes a class on "empathy" to counteract bullying (I forget the meat...hope it isn't just a way to let adults off the hook for not intervening, but nonetheless, prevention and dealing with students directly is also part of the solution, right?) Unsurprisingly, it seemed that the results were mixed. Still, at least they're trying. This is a step in the right direction.
It SHOULD be so easy for people to figure out, and yet considering how much the population across the board still think a person's drinking too much, being a sex worker, being married, or "leading someone on" and then saying "no" at initiation of intercourse ALL fail to meet the standards of "rape rape"....apparently, no, this shit is not registering with lots and lots of people.
I still remember the post on just this topic on Jezebel, and am not surprised at one of the reactions I saw from a guy interviewed--no shit, there's such a thing as date rape, or mutual consent. It SHOULD scandalize people that this isn't universally understood as a problem, like murder or theft.
Given that it isn't, how the fuck is this not a part of high school health class? It's bad enough this country seems to let wingnuts dictate sexual health policy among kids, but sexual assault prevention? Is a class that discusses rape too scandalous? Would it offend parents? In a community like THIS, what foundation could any legitimate indignation be based on? #richmondrape
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Because to teach that RAPE IS WRONG, end of story, that idea unfortunately doesn't fit into the rape culture in America. When I posted something about the Richmond gang-rape on my FB, two guys were like "well, unfortunately, rape happens and she should have known better". Thank heavens, sixteen other people (mostly men) jumped all over them for saying such a thing. But I sometimes feel like those 13 guys are the minority in the world. #richmondrape
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That's one thing "youth centers" or "community centers" note, yes? #richmondrape
11/05/09
Actually, it's true that it should be taught everywhere, but somehow I doubt people would be cheering in their seats at the opportunity to fund this unless they saw it as necessary, and what else would there be but statistics to distinguish that?
That said...I can see it pissing off plenty of students, but yes, actually, I don't see why it shouldn't be part of (at the very least) a high school health course. #richmondrape
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