@counterclockwise needs some more: One of my best friends is Chinese, and when she first came to the U.S. about 8 years ago, she had trouble telling white people apart. I was like, "What? But...all the different hair and eye colors!" Except that in China you don't you hair and eye color to distinguish faces -- you look at other features. Apparently those other features look a lot alike for most white people (to the untrained Chinese eye).
So while I am shocked and appalled that anyone would actually say "all [insert ethnicity/race] look alike"...it's actually a valid psychological phenomenon. You learn at an early age to ignore features that don't help you out. Obviously we can (and must) retrain our brains from time to time, but the fact that it happens...not really something we can help.
Still, yeah...you should never SAY that shit to a fellow student.
@Kivrin: One of my best friends is Chinese, and when she first came to the U.S. about 8 years ago, she had trouble telling white people apart. I was like, "What? But...all the different hair and eye colors!" Except that in China you don't you hair and eye color to distinguish faces -- you look at other features. Apparently those other features look a lot alike for most white people (to the untrained Chinese eye).
As a black person from a mostly black country, I had the same problem when I moved to Canada to study. But I never would have said it was because all white people looked alike; when I talked about it, I said that I took me a long time to figure out how to tell white people apart (it was okay at home, when there were relatively few of them, but in Canada I was all at sea). It was real problem, and the feeling that I was surrounded by masses of (essentially, to my untrained eye) featureless white folk made being in a strange country for the first time even more unnerving.
That having been said, and more relevant to the post, one thing that strikes me, having seen the photos Tatiana posted of the models in question, is that the Vogue cover does a really good job of making all these very different looking women look as similar as humanly possible without putting masks on them all. What the hell happened to individuality?
@Kivrin: Actually I didn't know that, it's quite interesting, so there's no need to apologize.
I should have mentioned that words where: "Schlitzis sehen echt alle gleich aus und wenn sie lachen sind sie blind!" It roughly translates to: "Slantys all look the same and when they laugh, they are blind." He is a racist asshole, he also asked me if I was aware that Jews are the root of all evil and secretly run the world.
@titilayo-yo-yo-yo: "But I never would have said it was because all white people looked alike; when I talked about it, I said that I took me a long time to figure out how to tell white people apart..."
But see, you're smart and thoughtful -- qualities which are sadly lacking among the masses! Re: the Vogue cover, you're right. The individual head shots of those two models make it pretty clear how different they look...but on the cover, not so different!
@tomatoheart: I couldn't imagine the amount of time and effort it would take to sustain the shape throughout a day though. That brow has a lot of shading.
@opalmarie: The thing is, without makeup and Photoshop, these girls really look NOTHING alike. Magazines have always manipulated images, but looking at the Moddles Vogue covers from the past the other day I was really struck at the difference between the ones from the early 90s and the ones from just a couple of years ago. Just 17 or 18 years ago, the moddles were vastly different from each other - the only things they had in common were, of course, being thin and tall and gorgeous, but you would never mistake one for the other. And they looked to be about 30, as their median age.
The ones lately? The girls all look about 17. And they have all been made up to the point of looking like vacant porcelain dolls, brought to life. Plump rosebud lips, parted just so. The shapes of the eyebrows and noses. Anna Maria Jagodzinska and the black girl next to her on the cover (her name wasn't in the article so I don't know it) look like the same person, just colored differently. It is CREEPY, guys.
Oh God, I hate myself for even noticing this, but look at the noses of the nine. The Nine Noses, if you will.
These women -- even the two who are not white -- have what amounts to the same nose (or very nearly).
Actually, whether by dint of nature or nurture/Photoshop, they generally look like adult versions of American Girl dolls -- all built on the same model, with minor tweaks to give the appearance of diversity.
@ellaesther: You beat me to it! The 'black' models (who are beautiful, don't get me wrong) are basically the whitest looking black models out there. What the hell? We need more models like Alec Wek.
@sparklylegwarmers: And even they, as phalenopsis rightly points out, manage to be just a leetle bit orange! (Though I should say that back when the SI swimsuit issue came out, I thought Bar Refaeli's skin looked like she was made of bologna, but on the news stand, she looked every bit the healthy, beautiful Caucasian. So the orange may be in the Jez, if you see what I mean).
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so, which one lives in the blue house and has sharp cheekbones again?
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(This is a tribute to a fellow student who told me that Asians all look the same and are indistinguishable. Asshole.)
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So while I am shocked and appalled that anyone would actually say "all [insert ethnicity/race] look alike"...it's actually a valid psychological phenomenon. You learn at an early age to ignore features that don't help you out. Obviously we can (and must) retrain our brains from time to time, but the fact that it happens...not really something we can help.
Still, yeah...you should never SAY that shit to a fellow student.
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As a black person from a mostly black country, I had the same problem when I moved to Canada to study. But I never would have said it was because all white people looked alike; when I talked about it, I said that I took me a long time to figure out how to tell white people apart (it was okay at home, when there were relatively few of them, but in Canada I was all at sea). It was real problem, and the feeling that I was surrounded by masses of (essentially, to my untrained eye) featureless white folk made being in a strange country for the first time even more unnerving.
That having been said, and more relevant to the post, one thing that strikes me, having seen the photos Tatiana posted of the models in question, is that the Vogue cover does a really good job of making all these very different looking women look as similar as humanly possible without putting masks on them all. What the hell happened to individuality?
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I should have mentioned that words where: "Schlitzis sehen echt alle gleich aus und wenn sie lachen sind sie blind!" It roughly translates to: "Slantys all look the same and when they laugh, they are blind." He is a racist asshole, he also asked me if I was aware that Jews are the root of all evil and secretly run the world.
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But see, you're smart and thoughtful -- qualities which are sadly lacking among the masses! Re: the Vogue cover, you're right. The individual head shots of those two models make it pretty clear how different they look...but on the cover, not so different!
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(Sorry, I'm obessive about eye color -- still trying to figure out what to call mine, which contain yellow, of all colors. I think I may be a cat.)
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The ones lately? The girls all look about 17. And they have all been made up to the point of looking like vacant porcelain dolls, brought to life. Plump rosebud lips, parted just so. The shapes of the eyebrows and noses. Anna Maria Jagodzinska and the black girl next to her on the cover (her name wasn't in the article so I don't know it) look like the same person, just colored differently. It is CREEPY, guys.
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These women -- even the two who are not white -- have what amounts to the same nose (or very nearly).
Actually, whether by dint of nature or nurture/Photoshop, they generally look like adult versions of American Girl dolls -- all built on the same model, with minor tweaks to give the appearance of diversity.
Sigh. This does not make happy.
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Do you have pools on that, you know, the way they do for the athletic championships? Because you should clean up.
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