I can understand the outrage over the Jaycee Dugard "inspired" film (I'd like to let Seth and Amy have a REALLY!? with that one...) but offering a woman who has modeled lingerie and sexy costumes a porn career doesn't seem like a huge leap to me. Yes, not all models of such clothing want to go into porn, but when you have revealing pictures and a sex type already circulating? I can't work up any ire.
@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: I agree to an extent. The place where I pause is that Prejean's sex tape wasn't made for a mass audience. It was taken public without her permission.
Well, supposedly, anyway. I mean it all could have been done for publicity, I guess.
Um, once again, WHY is everybody calling Shane Ryan a pornographer or adult filmmaker? Gah, it's killing me- one article uses that term towards him, and everybody does without checking the facts . . .
The guy does stupid amateur horror/sexploitation films. Exploitative, sure. Porn, it is not. Disgusting? Certainly. Porn? Nope.
@cand86: I think this is a really important distinction - though possibly a reason why the idea of him making a Jaycee Dugard film is MORE disturbing.
This article is about the pornification of inadvertently famous women. I think it makes a good point about the media's sexual objectification of women, but it doesn't exactly apply in the case of the Jaycee film. While I can only speculate on what the film will be, Shane Ryan has not made porn films in the past. It doesn't appear that he is going to all of a sudden start making porn films now. His work isn't like "Nailin Paylin", where a famous woman is replaced with a big-boobed porn star lookalike and put into ridiculous sexual situations. Granted, if it was, it would still be entirely inappropriate. But a look a Ryan's previous films shows that he makes sexually violent exploitation films. Though that doesn't fit as neatly into the thesis of this article, I think it's even more upsetting. Here is a man who has made a career off of portrayals of extreme sexual violence, announcing that he is planning a film based on the story of a rape survivor. It's one thing to make violent films (I personally love horror films, though this brand of exploitation film is definitely not my style). But to take someone's personal story and most likely turn it into an exploitation piece (as that is his M.O.) does strike me as "breathtakingly unkind," to quote the Dugard family.
(I don't want to link to Mr. Ryan's work, but a quick search will show you that many of his movie trailers are available on YouTube.)
The mirror I hold up for perfection is my mom. A widowed Japanese immigrant living in the US, who didn't read or write English, yet managed to raise eight children who grew up to be successful, intelligent and extremely well-adjusted.
Megan Fox and Angelina Jolie have some big shoes to fill. #angelinajolie
@kookla: My GranNana was a 4'11, 85 lb. Irish immigrant who raised five children on her own after her husband died of the flu at the age of 34. She worked as a seamstress and a bicycle and coach mechanic (!) to get them through the Depression intact.
All my early memories of her involve her making me toast fried in bacon fat, coaching my push-ups from her Barca Lounger, and swearing at my mother for not keeping my Stepdad in line. No offense to Ange--she's great--by GranNana could kick Lara Croft's ass in time for Sunday dinner without wrinkling her dress. I'd give my left foot to spend another day with her--if only to hear her cuss out Sarah Palin. #angelinajolie
@BetteD: I bet your GranNana and my mom could teach all of these so-called spectral presences a thing or two about being an icon. Without nannies, chauffeurs, private jets and mansions. #angelinajolie
I'm pretty sure in 50 years, starlets will have Angelina Jolie tattoos on their arms and they'll be talking about her dress size and how it has changed since the 1990s.
Jolie (on a some level, in terms of her humanitarian work and her bombshell status) is like a hybrid of Audrey and Marilyn, two actresses whom people just can't stop emulating. This is just the beginning, I think.
@hortense: This is one of those cultural memes I just don't get, and I don't know if it's a wiring thing, or what. But I just have no strong feelings about Angelina. I mean, I know she's beautiful, but she isn't the first actress I think of when I think about that (especially now, when she does seem to have a sort of cultivated stoicism), and she's a good actress, but again, not someone who I'm automatically excited to see. I don't even feel cynical OR moved by her adoptions and charity work. She just leaves me "meh" and I can't claim it's because I'm such an independent iconoclast, either. #angelinajolie
Also, I'm not sure why Jolie gets the "superhuman" status treatment all the time. She has fucked up, publicly, in the past. It's as if everyone has forgotten her life pre-Brad Pitt. It's so weird. That's not to say that I think she should be punished for fucking up or anything, but I think it's sort of hilarious that people act like her halo isn't tarnished a bit. #angelinajolie
@Tchotchke: Because the implication is that all women want to look like her and have her life. I, for one, would rather stick a fork in my eye. #angelinajolie
@hortense: I think it's because she was pretty open about the pre-Brad fucking up, as far as I recall she's never claimed to be perfect- either as a public figure or in her private life.
And truth be told, I thought she was awesome right from the time of Girl, Interrupted. #angelinajolie
@hortense: Exactly. But also, her life now doesn't seem at that great to me. I mean, I guess it depends where you stand on the whole celebrity thing - I can't think of anything worse. #angelinajolie
@hortense: You're absolutely right. Another thing that bothers me is that people seem to forget that pre-Brad, she looked and acted entirely differently. She was Goth, often wore unflattering clothing, and publicly flaunted past bad behavior. The entire time she was with Billy Bob, most people talked about how creepy she was, not how beautiful she is. I happen to think she was attractive before the Brad era, but she went through a major, major make-over to maker her more conventionally sexy, and to overhaul her public image. #beautypetpeeves
@Tchotchke: @Waterlily: @hortense: I don't actually like Ange, I find her a bit smug and I don't trust people who can turn on a dime like that. That said, she did adopt Maddox right before getting together with Brad. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt that that had more to do with her image-revamp rather than the man in her life. I'm sure she remembered the Courtney Love/Vanity Fair scandal. #angelinajolie
@hortense: Jolie had to change her image. She was considered a world class loon. Her reputation was damaging her career. One must admit that she is a master (mistress?) of media manipulation. She went from deranged bloodsucking homewrecker to Mother Teresa in an amazingly short time.
@all: Because she is mentioned, I would actually like to add Olivia Wilde to the list of women who's hype and appeal I do not understand. #angelinajolie
@amoureuse is a second class citizen: I don't know if you remember exactly how quickly that maturing process went for her. I'd chalk one up to maturity if she had spent a few years evolving into what she is now. But she was being weird with Billy Bob, giving interviews about her knife collection, the whole works. And then she adopted Maddox, and a few days later dumped Billy Bob, and then within a few weeks started this whole humanitarian thing, and within 6 months she went from weird-destructive-knife-loving party girl to classy, charitable Brad Pitt love interest. It's just too quick for me to believe either persona is completely her, rather than a partial PR creation. Yes, people mature, but generally people with handlers mature differently than you and I. #angelinajolie
@Diziet_Sma: I simply do not see it in Jolie, so it's strange to read that "perfection" comment. My thought bubble always reads "Is this some sort of joke?"
It's almost like a marketing strategy for a new automobile/tech gadget/film that is average at best but gets major ink: "Hey kids, it's great/new & improved/in 3-D...so pass it down!" Of course, some folks ain't buying it...and some, like myself, find Angelina straight up boring. BORING. There. I said it. #angelinajolie
I just want to say: I TOTALLY CALLED THE REBECCA THING. Also, spell check is saying I am misspelling Rebecca, which is odd, since it is one of my favorite books and also my middle name. #angelinajolie
@lilbobbytables: YES. I friggin' love that book. It survives repeated re-readings. If they ever decide to remake the movie again, Jolie would be a great candidate for that role. #angelinajolie
Off-subject, but should she have like, donated the embryos? Or is that a whole 'nother thing? I mean, she makes it sound as though she didn't so much want to have more kids as she didn't want to have the embryos destroyed. I know it's hindsight and the babies are here, but I was just wondering. #octomom
@Tchotchke: It totally is. I love Ace of Cakes and I'm not ashamed to say it. If I had any artistic talent at all, that's where I'd want to work. #michaellohan
@Tchotchke: Ace of Cakes is great, but I LOVE Cake Boss too! Didn't you see the one where they made a zillion cannolis and stuffed them inside one GIANT cannoli and sold them for 25 cents each? AWESOME! I want to go to there! I might just like shows about cake. Plus, anything's better than J + K. Especially cake.
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@JessIsElf-ity: @mizz2bee: I know! I would love to work there, even if I was just cleaning the bakery or answering phones. It seems like so much fun.
@girlscoutcookie is back from hiatus: I actually haven't seen that episode! I guess it's just so heavily-scripted, so that kind of throws me a bit. My mom loves that show, however. I love Ace of Cakes because the banter between the people in the bakery is hysterical and clearly, it's just how they are. But you're right; anything is better than Jon and Kate. ANYTHING. #michaellohan
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@Tchotchke: I love "Ace of Cakes" too! What I don't understand though, is are the cakes actually any good to EAT?! It always seems like they are working on a cake for days, and this is after the actual cake part is baked....how can the cake test fresh?? I'm on team pie (yay!), but I still enjoy on occasion a moist, yummy piece of cake. Is it possible for a cake to be moist and yummy after sitting out for that many days and with that many layers of fondant on it though?? Curious.... #michaellohan
@Monkey1979: My guess is that they are probably only working on the cake for a day or two. They probably make all the other structures out of fondant ahead of time, and then assemble the cake a day or two before. Because, you'll notice that if they are making a replica of the Taj Mahal, for example, they will construct most of the building in pieces first and then assemble it on the cake. That's my guess at least. #michaellohan
@Tchotchke: I have to agree. Ace of Cakes is one of my most favorite shows on tv. I just want to go there and hang out with all of them and bask if the glow of their absolute coolness. And beg Mary Alice to be my best friend and we could go to roller derby matches together ...
Of course, my absolute crush on Elena would probably only get worse. #michaellohan
@tstreur: I think the reason I like the show so much is that the people seem likeable, funny and genuinely interesting. The employees clearly love their jobs and Duff has obviously made sure that he created a great work environment for them. Their cakes are beautiful and the show isn't trashy. It's nice to watch a show where at the end of each episode they talk about how amazing their coworkers' cakes were, as opposed to backstabbing one another. It's really unusual to see that on tv today. I know I sound like I'm going on and on, but I just always feel happy after watching that show. #michaellohan
@Tchotchke: That makes sense. Thanks! Having never eaten a cake with all of that fondant on it though, I wonder how it tastes...I mean, do you EAT that fondant?? I just can't imagine it tastes very good...just pure hardened sugar. At least if what you guess is true, the cake part is good! #michaellohan
@Tchotchke: Exactly! They all seem so freakin happy, and like they all really and truely like each other and enjoy working there ... I need to find a job like that ... #michaellohan
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The guy does stupid amateur horror/sexploitation films. Exploitative, sure. Porn, it is not. Disgusting? Certainly. Porn? Nope.
C'mon, peeps.
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This article is about the pornification of inadvertently famous women. I think it makes a good point about the media's sexual objectification of women, but it doesn't exactly apply in the case of the Jaycee film. While I can only speculate on what the film will be, Shane Ryan has not made porn films in the past. It doesn't appear that he is going to all of a sudden start making porn films now. His work isn't like "Nailin Paylin", where a famous woman is replaced with a big-boobed porn star lookalike and put into ridiculous sexual situations. Granted, if it was, it would still be entirely inappropriate. But a look a Ryan's previous films shows that he makes sexually violent exploitation films. Though that doesn't fit as neatly into the thesis of this article, I think it's even more upsetting. Here is a man who has made a career off of portrayals of extreme sexual violence, announcing that he is planning a film based on the story of a rape survivor. It's one thing to make violent films (I personally love horror films, though this brand of exploitation film is definitely not my style). But to take someone's personal story and most likely turn it into an exploitation piece (as that is his M.O.) does strike me as "breathtakingly unkind," to quote the Dugard family.
(I don't want to link to Mr. Ryan's work, but a quick search will show you that many of his movie trailers are available on YouTube.)
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Megan Fox and Angelina Jolie have some big shoes to fill. #angelinajolie
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All my early memories of her involve her making me toast fried in bacon fat, coaching my push-ups from her Barca Lounger, and swearing at my mother for not keeping my Stepdad in line. No offense to Ange--she's great--by GranNana could kick Lara Croft's ass in time for Sunday dinner without wrinkling her dress. I'd give my left foot to spend another day with her--if only to hear her cuss out Sarah Palin. #angelinajolie
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And truth be told, I thought she was awesome right from the time of Girl, Interrupted. #angelinajolie
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I also read that she was on drugs around that era. Maybe maturity kicked-in and she decided to clean up her act? #angelinajolie
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It's almost like a marketing strategy for a new automobile/tech gadget/film that is average at best but gets major ink: "Hey kids, it's great/new & improved/in 3-D...so pass it down!" Of course, some folks ain't buying it...and some, like myself, find Angelina straight up boring. BORING. There. I said it. #angelinajolie
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You have done nothing that is memoir worthy. Please stop.
Phantom Lady #michaellohan
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Those hipster/slackers on the Food Network just warm my heart and make me laugh. I love Geoff's deadpan humor. #michaellohan
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@girlscoutcookie is back from hiatus: I actually haven't seen that episode! I guess it's just so heavily-scripted, so that kind of throws me a bit. My mom loves that show, however. I love Ace of Cakes because the banter between the people in the bakery is hysterical and clearly, it's just how they are. But you're right; anything is better than Jon and Kate. ANYTHING. #michaellohan
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If DirtBag After Dark contains info about a documentary called "The Magic of Cheese Fries," it will officially be the best gossip day ever. #michaellohan
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Of course, my absolute crush on Elena would probably only get worse. #michaellohan
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