I don't know if I'm relieved he's speaking without the aid of a PR rep, or horrified that he's speaking without the aid of a PR rep. I wish someone could get hold of this kid and show him how to use this as a teachable moment, instead of sweeping it under the rug.
How about admitting "Rihanna and I had a volatile relationship that escalated into physical violence that is unacceptable and inexcusable on my part, considering everything I witnessed as a child." Then continue with the fact that any victim should realize these warning signs and remove themselves from the situation. And as an abuser, get help. Maybe if you started there, you can open up a dialogue and you can actually turn this into a positive.
Chris, if you were my son, I would have you in therapy until you can figure out the difference between right and wrong. It's time to grow up and accept responsibility.
@kookla: Your right. You have to wonder who's advising him. He could totally turn this thing around into a positive, but in every interview, he comes off cagey and defensive and *just short* of taking full responsibility for his actions. I also really wish he and everyone else would stop referring to this as a "situation." #chrisbrowntheinterview
WHY do people keep giving him a forum? What is left for him to say? He isn't clever, he isn't funny, he isn't interesting. He's a mildly talented douchebag who BEAT HIS GIRLFRIEND. He's had the opportunity to explain himself and tell us how vewy sowwy he is. This is just a chance for him to rehab his image and his career and I don't understand why MTV is being complicit in that. Well, I do, but you know what I mean. #chrisbrowntheinterview
I see that MTV is rebranding itself as the Indefensible Douchebag Response Channel. Coming next week: Jon Gosselin: More Excuses IV, "The Stabbing Represented How Much I Loved Her": The OJ Simpson Story, and Tonya Harding: Crowbars Of Glory. #chrisbrowntheinterview
@Maura Johnston: And she *doesn't* believe herself. In fact, she's at her weakest when she's trying to "discuss" her art, because it comes from a position of defensiveness.
The Empress has no clothes (well, no pants anyway).
I think she may be taking herself too seriously - just as Marylin Manson did. Where does inspiration and homage end and appropriation and derivation begin?
To me she seems like a club-kid turned DJ turned popstar. Like Kid Rock, or Andrew WK, I don't see what the big deal is - it's well-designed pop, and an artist image that suits it well.
Good post. The late 00's will go down as a pretty weak, unremarkable time for pop music so it's a little refreshing to see a peacock, even though her music is rather uninspired and factory-stamped. Gaga's fusion of Britney Spears and Mudd Club art-sleaze can be striking, but so much of her imagery are just rehashes of past artists' work (poor Roisin Murphy). I'm more interested in how her imagery impacts listeners as I'm thinking about the armies of Madonna-bies that arose 25 years ago.
@Cam/ron: Wait, I think I remember you mentioning a while back that you were a music journalist, or am I muddled and thinking of someone else? I'd genuinely love to hear more. Please go on! What do you think of Gaga's longevity? I initially scoffed and derided her as a flash-in-the-pan, but then I actually gave her a listen. And while she's a little formulaic, I can't help but respect the burgeoning musicality - she's young, but it seems like she has a lot of other ideas to give. Do you think she can claim a following anywhere near as strong as mid-80s Madonnna?
@Harlot Brontë: Yep, I'm a music writer but I usually cover the electronic and experimental music worlds. It's too premature to tell if she's going to have a following comparable to early Madonna since so many new artists come and go in the pop scene, especially since MTV barely covers music anymore. I'm also impressed by how she tries so many ideas at such a young age, and it's cool that she exposing teenage girls to "performance art" (although I wish more teens were into Hercules and Love Affair). However, Madonna's early records had many strong songs that captured their time very well and still resonate ("Lucky Star" is still fun to hear today), while Gaga's tunes fail to do so.
This is going to sound ridiculous, but she can actually sing. Incredibly well. I don't know why she choses to obscure it on her album, but if you listen her singing acoustically, she sounds amazing.
You perfectly summed up what it is a find compelling. I have an overwhelming hatred for hypocrisy. I find myself drawn to all sorts of odd or distasteful people merely because they are not hypocrites. That is how I feel about Lady Gaga. She is true to who she is and honest about what she is trying to accomplish. I respect that much more than someone like Beyonce who wouldn't show her belly in the beginning because it was slutty and then writhed around in her music video's a few months later.
I love that everyone is wailing and gnashing their teeth over this. Gaga does what artists do best: cause controversy. Who wants boring when you can have crazy?
Am I wrong in thinking that the "martyrs of fame" aren't meant to be famous martyrs, but people whose death was attributable, at least in part, to their fame? Like Princess Di, (God forbid) Marilyn Monroe, etc.?
I am definitely thinking way too much about this. I couldn't even recognize a Lady Gaga song if I heard one.
@Wit is periodically disensouled: Yeah, my first thoughts were Marilyn Monroe, Heath Ledger, Princess Di, etc., and I really don't think she meant it that way. I certainly hope not.
Well said, Dodai. I agree with every word. I don't even know her music very well, beyond the singles, but thank Zeus for eccentrics - in every walk of life. And Gaga reminds me that music is one medium where female eccentrics have been as successful as the men: Diamanda Galas, Grace Jones, Kate Bush, Tori Amos, Alison Goldfrapp, Bjork et al. I'll take interesting over mass-market any day.
@Diziet_Sma: I enjoy the spectacle of Gaga, but have to say that her music is pretty generic to me, while those other artists you mention had pretty interesting music as well as the spectacle.
@Grim Reaper of the Forest: The music doesn't do much for me either; but that is just a question of taste, I guess. She doesn't bore me as a person, like so many other artists whose music I'm not interested in - Beyonce, Katy Perry, whoever.
Honestly, I don't think giving vague, recycled answers about art and fame and pop culture and inspiring a movement (a movement for what? a glamorous life? a lust for fame? Kermit heads? more sparkly things? that's not inspiring a movement, that's perpetuating an already-existent consumer culture) and attempting to legitimize those answers by grasping at places and pasts which truly were revolutionary (and in which you were never involved!) because your boring, derivative, boilerplate pop music certainly doesn't back up any of your statements about how you're an original and exciting artist is any more interesting than an adolescent writing and singing well-crafted stories about adolescent life. And I don't even like Taylor Swift!
@egg cream is here, is second tier, get used to it: Maybe instead of immediately dismissing her as "recycled" you should actually listen to what she says. I don't think her music is particularly good, but as an artist and a celebrity she is very interesting.
I can't wait to "study" Lady Ga Ga's VMA performence on youtube and learn the answer to the universe! Why are we here? Is there a God? Will the world really in 2012? Clearly we will learn ALL these things on YOUTUBE from an Mtv performence by Lady Ga Ga. YES!
@unmoldednicole: SPOILER ALERT: The climax of the latest Dan Brown novel, "The Symbol," has Robert Langdon examining said YouTube video frame by frame to discover that Lady Gaga is actually Jesus and Mary Magdalene's offspring because CHRIST ALSO ESCHEWED PANTS!
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How about admitting "Rihanna and I had a volatile relationship that escalated into physical violence that is unacceptable and inexcusable on my part, considering everything I witnessed as a child." Then continue with the fact that any victim should realize these warning signs and remove themselves from the situation. And as an abuser, get help. Maybe if you started there, you can open up a dialogue and you can actually turn this into a positive.
Chris, if you were my son, I would have you in therapy until you can figure out the difference between right and wrong. It's time to grow up and accept responsibility.
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I think she may be taking herself too seriously - just as Marylin Manson did. Where does inspiration and homage end and appropriation and derivation begin?
To me she seems like a club-kid turned DJ turned popstar. Like Kid Rock, or Andrew WK, I don't see what the big deal is - it's well-designed pop, and an artist image that suits it well.
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Am I wrong in thinking that the "martyrs of fame" aren't meant to be famous martyrs, but people whose death was attributable, at least in part, to their fame? Like Princess Di, (God forbid) Marilyn Monroe, etc.?
I am definitely thinking way too much about this. I couldn't even recognize a Lady Gaga song if I heard one.
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