It's time to face some hard facts, gays and their supporters: stop blaming Obama, stop blaming the scare ads, don't even blame the fucking Mormons. Blame the American people. They're the ones who, in state after state and vote after vote, keep banning gay marriage. Right now, a majority of American voters in every state do not want gay marriage. Do they actually feel that strongly about it? Probably not. They're not about to wield pitchforks and burn down a Unitarian chapel where some gays are getting hitched in a shower of rainbow confetti and Lady Gaga songs blasting away. But if it's election day, and they're out to vote on shit like legalizing medical marijuana, and they see something about gay marriage, they're going to go "no homo".
If gay marriage is going to happen, it's going to happen because of judges and legislators. They tend to be a little more educated than the unwashed, unlettered masses, plus there's less of them so you don't need as much money to bribe them. Unless, of course, you live in a state like California where the state constitution is practically open-source and the filthy masses do have the final say. Then you're just shit out of luck. You can move to another state (avoid Iowa, though, no legal recognition is worth that). If you do, feel free to TP your neighbor's house and have your poodle use their flower bed as both a trough and a toilet. They don't like you anyway. #anthonysowell
@Kilotwat: Yup. It's not like the modern civil rights laws would have been made if they'd waited for a majority in the South to vote for them. #anthonysowell
@Kilotwat: I agree with you that it's time to face the facts about the American public, but I also think we need to acknowledge the very real fear-mongering the right is stirring up about us gays. And the fact that the left is just standing around with their hands in their pockets, whistling and hoping no one looks their way. Then they might have to, you know, actually take a stand or something.
You're right that most Americans aren't super vehement about this issue, but when it comes to voting time, they're scared and looking for a convenient and exotic scapegoat. That way they don't have to think too much about the very pressing issues of our economy and the sad state this country is in.
But there needs to be an end to this political fear-mongering. It's really getting bad, and in a very real way we are slowly moving backwards on gay rights. Unacceptable. #anthonysowell
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My whole life I have had cats. Many of them. And until the most recent ones, they have all been declawed and we have never had any problems with them because of it. I really don't know how so many people blame bad behaviour on declawing, regardless of it being cruel (or not).
The cats we did have that were declawed lived mostly long and healthy lives and had very good tempers, were cuddly and non-violent. Now we have two clawed cats and they are equally loving and healthy. My friend has a clawed cat who is the devil incarnate. Make of all this what you will.
@JerkoftheMonth: Well, it's just that the claws are the cat's main line of defense. Not only is declawing extremely painful to the cat, but it forces it to use other, uh, resources to defend itself. And if it ever gets outside it will be helpless against predators. #anthonysowell
@JerkoftheMonth: As an animal care professional (former vet tech, current dog kennel owner and manager) and cat lover, I see declawing as the equivalent of antipsychotic medication. It should never be off the table, but should be a last resord. #anthonysowell
@JerkoftheMonth: Nowadays you can get 'Soft Paws' fitted on your cat, so even if it's a total scratchy bitch, hopefully people will not feel declawing is necessary.
I just feel that declawing is unkind. Imagine how much it would hurt to have your fingernails surgically removed, and what a pain in the ass it would be to live without them. #anthonysowell
@Sarah Dove: From what I've been told, it's beyond the equivalent of having your fingernails surgically removed-- it's more like having your fingers amputated just past the first knuckle. #anthonysowell
@formergr: I worked for a vet who refused to do declawings, and I take my cat to another one who refuses to do them. Both clinics cited it as "unneccessary and cruel", especially since Soft Paws are pretty effective, as well as a $30 scratching post. My cat is Queen Scratchy, and I'd never declaw her. Getting her a post has made all the difference in the world to my furniture.
My MIL has declawed all her cats, but refuses to crop her dog's ears. I don't understand it. I suppose only one could damage the leather sofa. #anthonysowell
@nagumi: Yes, while extremely painful and cruel, it's worth noting that it is occasionally medically necessary. For example, two of our cats are polydactyls, and one of them (who has seven toes on his front paws) had to get a couple of his extra claws removed because they were ingrown. Our vet (who is generally very anti-declawing) has suggested possibly declawing them so their extra claws don't continue to cause trouble, but we haven't done it because we have four other cats besides the 2 polydactyls and getting one cat declawed means you have to get them all declawed if you have multiple kitties. And they're all adults, and the surgery is generally more invasive and painful the older the cat is.
@formergr: All the more reason not to do it, then. My cat's kind of a scratchy bitch but I don't want to get any bits cut off her that can't grow back. I love her little scratchy bitchy self. #anthonysowell
@Erda: Fair enough. There's a big difference between getting a body part removed because there's something harmful wrong with it, and getting it removed for the sake of the furniture.
Also, JEALOUS. I've wanted a polydactyl cat for YEARS. I have to keep reminding myself that they don't actually have skin-flap wings that let them glide around, because the name makes me think of 'pterodactyl.' #anthonysowell
@Sarah Dove: The one with seven toes on his front paws (and six on his back - he apparently ties the Guinness World Record cat, which makes me feel special) almost can fly though. It's the cutest thing ever: when he runs, he runs in place for a few seconds, and then SHOOTS. It's like he's a cartoon character. He is the most adorable cat :) #anthonysowell
@all: What about having small children? Some moms out there, would you declaw cats if you had a small child or baby?
I do understand it's painful, but we also neuter and spay animals, for our own good and not theirs. I had a cat that was declawed that managed to hold his own with other neighbourhood cats - he ended up just screaming at the other cat and whap-whapping him on the head, with vigour. Also, I have clawed cats that, against other cats, have not fared well (one almost lost her eyeball!).
So I understand the argument against it, and where I live (Europe) I think it's illegal, but I still do think that all the decisions we make about our pets are ultimately in our best interests and not the pets'. I won't be declawing any felines any time soon, but I don't judge people who do... #anthonysowell
@JerkoftheMonth: I'd say we spay and neuter dogs and cats more for their good than for our own. From what I understand, the reason most people push to spay and neuter pets is because there are so many stray cats and dogs out there and the idea is that there are already enough animals without homes, let's not add to the problem.
My subdivision back home has had a ton of feral cats the past few years, because some people moved out and left a litter of kittens behind, which all grew up into un-spayed/un-neutered feral cats. Now, there are feral cats running around everywhere. It's really unfortunate. That's why people should spay/neuter pets (and also, not abandon them, but that's another story). #anthonysowell
@JerkoftheMonth: I grew up around cats. My nieces and nephews grew up around cats. If you raise a cat right, it doesn't harm children unless provoked. You teach your kid not to hurt animals, the cat has no reason to lash out. You know what happens then? Mutual respect and love from the cats and the children, and the children learn not to be cruel to animals. If a kid gets scratched, it's a tough lesson. I got scratches as a kid, and I'd tell Mum. "What did you do to the cat that made it do that to you?" "I put a sock on its head." "Serves you right, then."
And sterilising an animal is different from declawing. It's not for human convenience. There's always a benefit to risk ratio when undergoing any medical treatment, either in human or animals. The benefits of getting an animal sterilised outweigh the risks. It reduces the incidence of a range of cancers, the lack of stress of going into heat for female cats makes for a more docile and contented animal, there's no physical strain on the female cat of gestating and giving birth to kittens who will probably have problems being rehomed, and the male cats will not be so aggressive and will not have the urge to wander and piss on everything in sight. There are a huge list of reasons why sterilising an animal is the right thing to do. It makes for happier and healthier cats and curbs the population growth of an animal that thrives under human care and currently has a huge feral population worldwide. That's preventing pain and suffering across the board.
@napalmnacey is an angry feminist: I agree with everything you said, but as a professional in this field I can tell you that there ARE crazy animals, who through no fault of their owners are crazy and dangerous. Same with people. It's rare, and most 'bad' people and 'bad' pets come from bad (or just not good) homes, but there are schizophrenic people and there are crazy-ass cats.
In the case (and ONLY in the case) that a cat is so dangerous that the owners' only other option is to give their cat up (usually to a pound, as violent cats almost never find homes), declawing can be an option.
Certainly, if you're declawing to save your furniture, you need to rethink owning pets. #anthonysowell
@nagumi: See, I can understand that situation. It'd be pretty rare though, wouldn't it? I mean, unless someone is owning a cat they got as a feral kitten. Most domestics I've come across are pretty agreeable if you don't cross them. My brother had a cat that had the bad habit of attacking ankles, and I don't know how my brother ever got him out of that behaviour. It wasn't something he did very often. Most of the time he was a big softie (as his sister is today). #anthonysowell
@napalmnacey is an angry feminist: It's more common with domestics than you'd think, though it happens. It's important to remember that many cats go through what's known as their "asshole" phase of development between about 4 months and 8-9 months, in which they are, surprise surprise, assholes. Many people declaw right then, assuming this is personality, not puberty.
On the other hand, I can understand wanting to protect your kids (especially if you have toddlers or babies), if even from just 5-6 months. #anthonysowell
@nagumi: Mine is currently an asshole. He's around 7 months (got him from the spca and they thought he was a month younger than he seems to be--or he might just be a beast of a 6 month-er) and is obsessed with eating the blinds. He can be so sweet, though, I have high hopes he'll mellow with age. I remember the asshole stage being milder with my girl cats as a teen (they're my mom's, really, and still live with her). #anthonysowell
This is what gets me about Evan Wolfson's quote: Obama has said repeatedly that he does not support gay marriage. It's like in the election everybody said, "Well, he has to say that, the country's full of such rednecks ..." and then went on their way believing that he must actually support gay marriage, b/c he seems like such a stand-up guy. No, he's not actually that strong on gay rights.
Aaaaand, this is part of the reason that I get such a squicked-out feeling about people gushing about the Obamas (even though they are, in many ways, gush-worthy) in the press: it's too easy to make them blank canvases for our own political beliefs. It's too easy to, say, assume that Michelle doesn't mind her makeover from Woman With An Opinion to Mom In Chief. It's too easy to assume that Barack is the world's most involved dad, when in fact he hasn't lived in the same house with the girls regularly since he was elected to the Illinois Senate. It's too easy to assume that the anti-gay rhetoric he spouted during the campaign must just be for show, because in your head you want to believe he's a good progressive on gay rights. But that doesn't make it true. #anthonysowell
@yvanehtnioj: I agree. While I do not regret voting for Obama, I strongly disagree with his opinions on this subject, and I get quite frustrated (logically or not) by that fact.
I know I will never agree 100% with any politician, but it is still aggravating. #anthonysowell
@la.donna.pietra: As someone who works in animal rescue I feel like I need to say, just because a cat has been declawed doesn't mean they are going to be a bad pet. I in no way advocate declawing cats, but if you choose to adopt one, it is no more likely to bite or pee on your stuff than a kitty with claws. All it means is that it went through something traumatic. I own two lovely declawed cats (they were that way when I got them) who are wonderful, wonderful pets. #anthonysowell
@Halfrek: I definitely don't want to discourage anyone from adopting a declawed cat, but my experience has been just the opposite--all the declawed cats I've known have had serious behavior problems. (They might have had those problems to begin with, though, as I haven't known any cats before they were declawed.)
We are talking about cats, though, and there isn't much point in comparing one cat to another! They're all going be different beasties. #anthonysowell
@boobookitteh: I had a clawed cat and a de-clawed cat. The one with claws was the biter. The de-clawed cat only peed on things when the clawed cat was around. #anthonysowell
@Mary McCarthyite: That article is so disturbing. The babysitter had another child that went missing and never turned up. Then another severely beaten child was found in their home. It sounds to me, like the mother gave the sitter the baby to get rid of, and then called her in missing. #anthonysowell
As much as I would love my furniture to not look like props from Grey Gardens, I would never declaw my cats. They are indoor, but if they get out (which they do) I want them to be able to defend themselves.
@Penny: I've never had cats of my own (my parents really are dog people) but I was always around them when I visited friends and I was always under the impression that declawing can actually be really harmful for a cat. I don't know if this is true, but a friend of mine blamed her cat's bad health on the fact that he had been declawed. The vet told her that being declawed made the cat extremely anxious, which could help explain some of his ailments.
@Casquivana: Declawing is extremely harmful to cats. Many people think it just involves removing the claws, but it actually involves removing the entire digit up to the feline equivalent of the first knuckle. Since cats walk on their toes, it's disorienting and painful as all hell. As a result, they tend to act out. Declawed cats frequently end up with behavior problems--aggressive behavior, biting, urinating in inappropriate places, etc.--that make things even worse for them and their owners. That's not even counting the safety concerns for a cat who can't climb a tree or claw an enemy.
I've known several declawed cats, and every single one of them had behavior problems. Owners should invest in a squirt bottle, some catnip, and a lot of scratching posts instead!
@WashingMyHair: i'm very very anti-declawing, but i'm not neccessarily happy about this law. I would rather see a kitty declawed and in a home, than euthanized at a shelter because he scratched someone's furniture. I prefer education over banning and enforcement #anthonysowell
@Falen: Though the problem with that is the fact that the majority of declawed cats end up being given up because of behavioral problems due to the declawing. #anthonysowell
@WashingMyHair: i agree, which is why i prefer education over restriction - if these people were educated in the first place about declawing and the possible lifestyle and behavioral changes or educated about possible alternatives to declawing, they could make a better informed decision and be less likely to give up their cat for any reason #anthonysowell
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If gay marriage is going to happen, it's going to happen because of judges and legislators. They tend to be a little more educated than the unwashed, unlettered masses, plus there's less of them so you don't need as much money to bribe them. Unless, of course, you live in a state like California where the state constitution is practically open-source and the filthy masses do have the final say. Then you're just shit out of luck. You can move to another state (avoid Iowa, though, no legal recognition is worth that). If you do, feel free to TP your neighbor's house and have your poodle use their flower bed as both a trough and a toilet. They don't like you anyway. #anthonysowell
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You're right that most Americans aren't super vehement about this issue, but when it comes to voting time, they're scared and looking for a convenient and exotic scapegoat. That way they don't have to think too much about the very pressing issues of our economy and the sad state this country is in.
But there needs to be an end to this political fear-mongering. It's really getting bad, and in a very real way we are slowly moving backwards on gay rights. Unacceptable. #anthonysowell
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My whole life I have had cats. Many of them. And until the most recent ones, they have all been declawed and we have never had any problems with them because of it. I really don't know how so many people blame bad behaviour on declawing, regardless of it being cruel (or not).
The cats we did have that were declawed lived mostly long and healthy lives and had very good tempers, were cuddly and non-violent. Now we have two clawed cats and they are equally loving and healthy. My friend has a clawed cat who is the devil incarnate. Make of all this what you will.
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I just feel that declawing is unkind. Imagine how much it would hurt to have your fingernails surgically removed, and what a pain in the ass it would be to live without them. #anthonysowell
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My MIL has declawed all her cats, but refuses to crop her dog's ears. I don't understand it. I suppose only one could damage the leather sofa. #anthonysowell
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Also, JEALOUS. I've wanted a polydactyl cat for YEARS. I have to keep reminding myself that they don't actually have skin-flap wings that let them glide around, because the name makes me think of 'pterodactyl.' #anthonysowell
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I do understand it's painful, but we also neuter and spay animals, for our own good and not theirs. I had a cat that was declawed that managed to hold his own with other neighbourhood cats - he ended up just screaming at the other cat and whap-whapping him on the head, with vigour. Also, I have clawed cats that, against other cats, have not fared well (one almost lost her eyeball!).
So I understand the argument against it, and where I live (Europe) I think it's illegal, but I still do think that all the decisions we make about our pets are ultimately in our best interests and not the pets'. I won't be declawing any felines any time soon, but I don't judge people who do... #anthonysowell
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I mean, I still like my cat, but I do sometimes wish she had cool-ass mutations. #anthonysowell
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My subdivision back home has had a ton of feral cats the past few years, because some people moved out and left a litter of kittens behind, which all grew up into un-spayed/un-neutered feral cats. Now, there are feral cats running around everywhere. It's really unfortunate. That's why people should spay/neuter pets (and also, not abandon them, but that's another story). #anthonysowell
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And sterilising an animal is different from declawing. It's not for human convenience. There's always a benefit to risk ratio when undergoing any medical treatment, either in human or animals. The benefits of getting an animal sterilised outweigh the risks. It reduces the incidence of a range of cancers, the lack of stress of going into heat for female cats makes for a more docile and contented animal, there's no physical strain on the female cat of gestating and giving birth to kittens who will probably have problems being rehomed, and the male cats will not be so aggressive and will not have the urge to wander and piss on everything in sight. There are a huge list of reasons why sterilising an animal is the right thing to do. It makes for happier and healthier cats and curbs the population growth of an animal that thrives under human care and currently has a huge feral population worldwide. That's preventing pain and suffering across the board.
Declawing saves some asshole's furniture.
I rest my case. #anthonysowell
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In the case (and ONLY in the case) that a cat is so dangerous that the owners' only other option is to give their cat up (usually to a pound, as violent cats almost never find homes), declawing can be an option.
Certainly, if you're declawing to save your furniture, you need to rethink owning pets. #anthonysowell
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On the other hand, I can understand wanting to protect your kids (especially if you have toddlers or babies), if even from just 5-6 months. #anthonysowell
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Aaaaand, this is part of the reason that I get such a squicked-out feeling about people gushing about the Obamas (even though they are, in many ways, gush-worthy) in the press: it's too easy to make them blank canvases for our own political beliefs. It's too easy to, say, assume that Michelle doesn't mind her makeover from Woman With An Opinion to Mom In Chief. It's too easy to assume that Barack is the world's most involved dad, when in fact he hasn't lived in the same house with the girls regularly since he was elected to the Illinois Senate. It's too easy to assume that the anti-gay rhetoric he spouted during the campaign must just be for show, because in your head you want to believe he's a good progressive on gay rights. But that doesn't make it true. #anthonysowell
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I know I will never agree 100% with any politician, but it is still aggravating. #anthonysowell
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We are talking about cats, though, and there isn't much point in comparing one cat to another! They're all going be different beasties. #anthonysowell
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THIS is important. Let's pay attention to what this means. #anthonysowell
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Raccoons are mean fuckers, after all. #anthonysowell
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I've known several declawed cats, and every single one of them had behavior problems. Owners should invest in a squirt bottle, some catnip, and a lot of scratching posts instead!
*gets off soapbox* #anthonysowell
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