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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
10/14/09

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fixed the cosmo editor's typos

"I think fashion magazine editors have to protest — and back it up."
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angie _tempura
10/14/09

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Why is this image ok in a Japanese department store, but not ok in the US?
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laughingweek
10/15/09

@angie _tempura: They say it was leaked "accidentally" to a market in Japan. It was never supposed to have been used to begin with
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Dirk Anger
10/15/09

@laughingweek: Yeah, I'm sure they were just using it as an example to show their photoshoppers what not to do
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maude_flanders
10/14/09

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I know it shouldn't surprise me anymore, but the idea of a woman who is 5'8 and 120 (120!!!!!!) pounds being too big makes me feel sick to my stomach.

I had a few friends who was very, very thin naturally. She participated in sports, but she was tall and a also had a jackrabbit metabolism. Another, 5'9 and probably a size 2 or less said the reflexive comment she got more than once, as soon as she walked into an office to show someone her portfolio is, "You'll need to lose weight."

I know not all designers expect their models to be a size 00 (some even branch up to a size 4! Imagine), but I'd say more than a handful participate in the sort of crap described above, yes?

The idea that the "model" standard of femininity and beauty is 5'10 and 100 pounds....I want to punish and pillory people (who? Designers, agents, nobody takes the blame, unless I'm missing something....the problem just emerges out of nowhere, and the inhuman, unhealthy criteria or the sexual harassment of minors in the modeling industry are just the problem of a few bad apples, not systemic, condoned, supported by the industry at its core).

It's old news. Who else is offended by the standards presented by fashion/entertainment and used to sell clothes, other than fat jealous bitches and feminazi academics, and maybe overprotective, lame parents? Who else is disturbed that the people peddling this toxic shit are making billions of dollars?
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itsonreserve
10/14/09

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Apparently the slow, painful death of the print magazine isn't voting with our pocketbooks? Oh I see. Well, then fuck.
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littletater
10/14/09

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Amazing, because the ad DID run on their site for a very short while...I assume someone there must have had it pulled
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rd2uk
10/14/09

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I cant be a 100% sure because I tend to read this stuff at work when im not really paying attention - but im relatively certain that I read somewhere that RL has let the person to phososhopped this image, as well as the person who was responsible for releasing it 'go'.

also, images of black/white women photo shopped like this are are no new thing in the asian market. a few years ago there was discussion about some photos that cindy crawford did for a watch company (i think), in which she had the face of a grown woman and the body of a teenage girl.

not defending RL, just saying they arent the first/only company to pull this shit
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thisiswhatweknow
10/14/09

@rd2uk: Thanks for clarifying, I thought it was unsubstantiated to accuse RL of having not fired anyone but the model. Moreover, it was stated in this article that the model was fired 6 months ago yet the author continues to malign RL using rhetoric that strictly implies that they fired her only when this scandal came to light.
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shantidevi
10/14/09

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I already actively protest with my pocketbook. Watch out, fashion companies! Do you have trouble making patters that accomodate both T&A? Do you have a creative director who says he only wants to see stick figures in his label? Do you hold the insane view that the worse your clothes look on my body, the more I am going to "aspire" to your brand? News flash: if you don't like my bottom, you're going to HATE your bottom line when we're through with you.Because, I'm not sitting around spending time or money fretting about how to fit into your clothes one day, or how to look like your photoshopped model. I like myself enough to buy clothes from designers who make me look fantastic. I just spent a few grand on my fall wardrobe, and didn't give you a dime of it, not even on your accessories! Luxury brands and fashion designers are a dime a dozen, and I continue to believe that the true measure of talent is in being able to flatter a woman's body, not in creating a garment that only looks good on a clothes hanger.I feel better having ranted. Thank you.
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Island of Misfit Toys
10/14/09

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After looking at the image, I am relieved to hear that it was photoshopped.
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zu_zu
10/14/09

@Island of Misfit Toys: Seriously, I think that's one of the worst I've ever seen. Not only unrealistic but just flat out unbelievable!
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SharonTaint
10/14/09

@Island of Misfit Toys: You honestly thought that could be a real person?
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pantaloons
10/15/09

@SharonTaint: I don't blame her for buying into it. Shockingly tiny frames are what we've come to expect. Nothing that happens in the fashion industry surprises me anymore.
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Island of Misfit Toys
10/15/09

@SharonTaint: I would have assumed she was a Civil War POW stationed at the Andersonville facility. #ralphlaurenmodel
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SharonTaint
10/15/09

@pantaloons: But her head is bigger than her pelvis! #ralphlaurenmodel
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Zulkey
10/14/09

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I wonder how often girls get let go for not being the right size/look for the brand. I feel bad for this model personally but part of me feels that that's just how the nonexistent cookie crumbles in this industry. Maybe I am too jaded to be shocked that sizeist bullshit happens in fashion.

Meanwhile I wonder if RL is secretly pleased by the press. It might be my imagination but I feel like the cachet of the brand has shrunk in the last few years.
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lizziesaint
10/14/09

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This "can't fit into our sizes" bullshit has got to go. A size 4 is small. I have a friend who is terribly/uncomfortably skinny who is constantly complaining that she can NEVER find clothing small enough for her (she's smaller than most size 0s). However, you look in magazines and she greatly resembles most of the models. Some runway models even look thinner than she is. Sample sizes for models must be made smaller than they are made for their actual audience. Now, why is that? How hard is it to make a larger sample size? Honestly?

I'm 120 lbs and 5'7" and people tell me I'm thin all the time. How can they possibly say that a girl of the same weight but 3 inches taller is too "large"?
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AuburnPonytail
10/14/09

@lizziesaint: Just FYI, we try not to post height/weights in an effort to be sensitive to those with ED or and ED past.
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philoclea
10/14/09

@AuburnPonytail: Wow... thanks for the FYI. This is the first I'm hearing it though. Is this a jezzie rule, or a consensus that's been reached informally?
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lizziesaint
10/14/09

@AuburnPonytail: Oh! I had no idea! Thanks for the info. Looking back on it, I can see now that it's slightly inappropriate.
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AuburnPonytail
10/14/09

@philoclea: I think it's more informal, though Hortense discourages it farther down thread. Just wanted to head off the "i've got my spreadsheet" comments!
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cirocco
10/15/09

@AuburnPonytail: If the editors don't want us to share figures in the comments, they need to set an example by not sharing figures in the story. Hamilton's specific height and weight are mentioned in the post above. I'm weary of watching innocent commenters get slapped down for breaching a "rule" that is not codified in any easily-accessible location and is frequently broken in the articles themselves. #ralphlaurenmodel
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CoalMineCanary
10/14/09

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The "Kate Moss era"? White makes it sound as though there was a brief period in which models were too skinny. I'm sick of fashion people repeating the same tired lines about the tyranny of sample sizes and how they affect the whole industry. Yes, we've all about sample sizes already. Now what are you going to do about it?

Also, shout out to Jenna for making so many excellent points in this post.
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adiam7
10/14/09

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Models got smaller and whiter all by themselves.It was organic.
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sybann
10/14/09

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I already boycott RL - this just reinforces my reasons.
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lijakaca
10/14/09

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I stopped buying these mags a long time ago, and I will not buy them again until they gain some reality. Until then, I spend mag money on food/lifestyle magazines which don't focus on making women paranoid. The ladymag editors spew crap like this and then wonder why their sales are falling? Give me a damn break.
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REZPECT
10/14/09

In reply to Ralph Lauren Fires Photoshopped Model For Being "Too Fat"
Jesus H. Christ, if she can't fit into their clothes, how do they expect normal women - presumably their consumer target - to fit their into clothes?
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TRexstasy
10/14/09

@REZPECT: Exactly what I was thinking.
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