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Caitlin Petrakovitz
11/06/09

In reply to Pregnant Soldier Among Ft. Hood Victims • Unsportswomanlike Soccer Player Suspended
Wow.
I can't believe Elizabeth Lambert wasn't thrown off the field and out of the game sooner. Not necessarily for What she did, but for the officiating that must have turned huge blind eyes to the game at hand to miss such blatant fouls.
Players talk, ESPECIALLY women. And as a referee, you can tell the exaggerations from the truth. So what happened here?!?
Alright, I admit, at first I was scared the world was headed on a terror against girls who play hard. But that girl did Not head out on to the pitch against BYU without some prior hair-pulling, come-from-behind-tackling and cleating experience. Lambert knew exactly what she was doing, and she's only apologetic she got caught.
All she did was retaliate, and, sure, it was a little more than what the opponent dished out, but that's what retaliation's all about. Lambert was continually trying to get the upper hand, or even force her opponent into exacting her own vengeance, then get caught by the ref. Instead, she got caught. It's a risk you take, and it sucks for her.

So I suppose I'm actually a little sad for her that she got suspended, because those BYU girls weren't saints either, but how many of them will be suspended for their own unsporting behavior? #forthoodmassacre
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BetteD
11/06/09

In reply to Pregnant Soldier Among Ft. Hood Victims • Unsportswomanlike Soccer Player Suspended
Ugh. The Fort Hood story punches me in the heart again. I'm really depressed about the lack of comprehensive and sustained psychiatric care for vets, and if this does indeed turn out to be PTSD related, I will fucking punch a wall.

If the Military Industrial Complex is such a dominant force in this country, why does it care so little for the human beings that carry out it's missions? #forthoodmassacre
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Vulcan Has No Moon
11/06/09

@BetteD: The Military Industrial Complex cares so little about soldiers are the easiest and cheapest thing they can replace.

"Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."

--George Carlin #forthoodmassacre
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HereComesMyBaby
11/06/09

In reply to Pregnant Soldier Among Ft. Hood Victims • Unsportswomanlike Soccer Player Suspended
Yeah, Obama must hate all those questions about Watergate and Monica Lewinsky. Ask him about anything but that, jeez! #forthoodmassacre
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token_illiterate_commenter
11/06/09

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They have the video of Elizabeth Lambert on Deadspin. She does go way too far in retaliation of some chippy stuff, but I don't think she should have been suspended for more than one game at the most. When a football player gets one game for trying to gouge out an opponents eyes, pulling someone to the ground by her pony tail doesn't seem to rate indefinite suspension. #forthoodmassacre
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dangerslut
11/06/09

@token_illiterate_commenter: As a person who worked for a D1 women's soccer team she shouldn't have been suspended but kicked off.

The hair pulling down to the ground? No excuse. It's not a play for the ball. It's the equivalent of cold-cocking someone which DID happen in Oregon and guess what? Suspended for the whole season.

It was absolutely unacceptable.

ETA: The Oregon situation I'm reference refers to the football team incident that began at the beginning of the season.
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sequined
11/07/09

@dangerslut: I think the Oregon dude is going to come back, actually. Not that it probably matters much at this point in the season, but that's the talk I've heard. #forthoodmassacre
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Zombies make the heart grow fonder
11/07/09

@dangerslut: As a person who played and still plays soccer now in rec leagues, I completely agree with you. That hair pull to the ground was completely absurd and the montage of her plays, including a punch to a girl's face when going up for a ball (completely on purpose not in the fight for the ball), and perhaps the most illegal from behind slide tackle I have ever seen are all more than enough for me to support the decision to suspend her. #forthoodmassacre
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J.D.Regent
11/06/09

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Whose million dollar idea was it to start coming out as trans ON HALLOWEEN? #forthoodmassacre
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NellMood
11/06/09

@J.D.Regent: Yeah, I find that really strange. It sets up her transition as something fake and costumey. #forthoodmassacre
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Triana Orpheus
11/06/09

@J.D.Regent: Probably the boss. They probably thought it was a good way to ease into the transition without bothering anyone's "delicate sensibilities." Yeah, it failed. #forthoodmassacre
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J.D.Regent
11/06/09

@Triana Orpheus: next time she can try April Fools and see how that goes over. #forthoodmassacre
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tiredfairy
11/06/09

@J.D.Regent: Yeah, it might not have been the best way to do it...but it's still discrimination. That quote is pretty creepy. #forthoodmassacre
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J.D.Regent
11/06/09

@tiredfairy: oh for sure. to me it shows just what a hostile environment it was that that is the way they were conceptualizing her transition. like a fucking costume. #forthoodmassacre
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tiredfairy
11/06/09

@J.D.Regent: Like they thought, oh, well, it's like dress up. So, so, wrong. #forthoodmassacre
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curiousgeorgiana
11/06/09

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They think color is the number one concern when women buy a car???

They realize we know that most cars come in many many colors right? Why would color be the most important factor? #forthoodmassacre
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J.D.Regent
11/06/09

@curiousgeorgiana: I'm just surprised they didn't assume we all wanted a pink car. #forthoodmassacre
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heavymetalkarma
11/06/09

@curiousgeorgiana: To be fair, my very good friend came home one night and the conversation went something like this:

Her: I just bought a car!
Roomies (incl me): What kind?
Her: A red one!

(It was a Scion and her decision was affected by reliability, price, fuel efficiency and other reasonable considerations. But it was still funny.) #forthoodmassacre
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curiousgeorgiana
11/06/09

@heavymetalkarma: Yeah, color is obviously a factor for most, including men. Like you said though--it's not the reason you buy the car. #forthoodmassacre
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la.donna.pietra
11/06/09

@curiousgeorgiana: Color was an important factor when I recently bought a car, but that's because I live in the desert and know from experience that I can literally fry an egg on the hood of a black car in August. White is the way to go for (slightly) reduced air conditioning.

Mr. Pietra wanted a black car. He hasn't lived in the desert before. I won. #forthoodmassacre
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Ultraprison!
11/06/09

@curiousgeorgiana: When my boyfriend was looking for a used car, color was one of the factors he judged the car on right away. He still thinks red cars get pulled over more often (not true -- check Snopes). #forthoodmassacre
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LBB
11/06/09

@curiousgeorgiana: What crackheaded study says that women think color is most important? When I bought my car, I had my priorities straight... I went for the one that looked most like a happy face.

(Seriously, though? In my experience it's usually men who are more interested in how cool the car looks than in fuel efficiency and reliability.) #forthoodmassacre
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kansasgirl
11/06/09

@curiousgeorgiana: That's ridiculous. We don't care what color a car is; we just care if it has a decent mirror on the visor so we can put on our makeup. #forthoodmassacre
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GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11)
11/06/09

@curiousgeorgiana: Ah you totally beat me to it! Of course I want a white car, I moved to California, and when I buy a car, it's going to be a fun white one dammit. And if someone asks me what kind of car I bought, sure I'll say, "a white Accord" or whatever. But many cars come in white! What, do they think I'll just go buy the first white car I see or something? Mercedes minivan, Kia Sorrento, won't matter to me as long as it's white... #forthoodmassacre
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BytheSea
11/06/09

@heavymetalkarma: Eh. i'm anintelligent MA graduate, librarian and published writer, and I don't know from cars. All I care is that I can afford it and it's green. My computer, otoh, I have a list and it's all numbrs and that Best Buy employee can STFU with his oversell. #forthoodmassacre
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BytheSea
11/06/09

@LBB: Ykno, i think the happy face thing is valid. I think the angry face cars are agressive looking and more likely to get cut off and such from other drivers. I hate angry face cars, you may not merge in my lane!! #forthoodmassacre
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BytheSea
11/06/09

@GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11): Fwiw, white means cheap. All cars start out white, you have to pay more to get it in a color. That's why white is the most common color on the road. #forthoodmassacre
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GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11)
11/06/09

@BytheSea: Hmm, I never knew that! I'm from Buffalo, so we usually just get cars in whatever color will be less inclined to look dirty in the winter, usually silver or light gray. White is actually a fairly rare color in Buffalo, so maybe this is why I associate it with fun and sunshine and California. If getting white meant saving money, that would be very exciting. Perhaps if I wanted a less common color, I'd think it were more of an issue...probably not though. #forthoodmassacre
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NellMood
11/06/09

In reply to Pregnant Soldier Among Ft. Hood Victims • Unsportswomanlike Soccer Player Suspended
I thought it was recommended that children be breast fed for two years? Wouldn't a study comparing the recommended amount of time to 3 months or 6 months be more relevant? #forthoodmassacre
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applejuice
11/06/09

@NellMood: Yes, from what I have read it is already known you have to breastfeed a baby longterm (like 2 years) for it to make a difference to the baby (and the mom health-wise) in the long run. #forthoodmassacre
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lizdexia
11/06/09

@NellMood: The AAP recommends breastfeeding for 6 months. I don't know of any authoritative medical body that recommends two full years. #forthoodmassacre
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NellMood
11/06/09

@lizdexia: The World Health Organization does. I'm not talking about exclusively breastfeeding- I mean introducing solids and continuing breastfeeding as a supplement. The AAP recommends that breastfeeding continue up to a year... #forthoodmassacre
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NellMood
11/06/09

@NellMood: Okay, though after I wrote that I see that the study was looking at exclusively at the time before solids. Still, I'd be interested to know how both groups compare to children who were breast fed, as a supplement to food, for a longer period. #forthoodmassacre
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FrabjousDay
10/20/09

In reply to Helen Thomas Defends Fox Against Obama Administration
I think the White House is making a mistake in lumping FOX News as a whole in with its opinion programming. According to the Press Secretary, it sounds like they're annoyed with Beck (who used to work for CNN) and Hannity, who are both opinion commentators. They're annoying as hell, but they are not, nor are they being presented as, factual news reporters. It seems petty to launch an attack against them when they're basically just talking heads. FOX News in general doesn't seem to be any more biased than CNN or the New York Times. #helenthomas
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curiousgeorgiana
10/20/09

@FrabjousDay: I agree with you to an extent. But when FOX harbors the type of insanity that Glenn Beck spews on a daily basis, they lose a lot of credibility. Bias exists on all levels of journalism. Glen Beck makes it personal, and his station allows it. I think the President has bigger fish to fry, but I don't mind a jab now and then from him or the press secretary. Beck's fear-mongering reflects on the entire corporation of FOX and should not be tolerated. #helenthomas
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FrabjousDay
10/20/09

@curiousgeorgiana: Right, and one of my problems with both FOX and CNN is that they have all these talk shows and opinion shows that you never know whether it's "news" or personal commentary. What I do think is annoying is that the White House is calling out the opinion shows that disagree with them, instead of the opinion shows that just go on about how awesome Obama is. I don't think Glenn Beck is any more offensive than, for instance, Rachel Maddow, who calls conservatives tea baggers. If the White House had a problem with opinion shows being broadcast on news networks, I would wholeheartedly back them up. But the way they're handling whatever problem they have with FOX News is just stupid. #helenthomas
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SisterCarrie
10/20/09

In reply to Helen Thomas Defends Fox Against Obama Administration
She's not defending Fox, she's being politically astute, something the well-intentioned Obama pups haven't learned yet. #helenthomas
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Lymed
10/20/09

In reply to Helen Thomas Defends Fox Against Obama Administration
This situation reminds me of when a friend was with an emotionally abusive partner. When I would try to talk to her, he would whisper in her ear so she couldn't listen to me. He would tell her that I was trying to break them up, knowing full well that it prevented me from saying anything negative about him as it would show that he was the one telling the truth.

How does the Administration deal with an abusive news organization? FOX will continue whispering in the ears of millions of Americans. #helenthomas
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AngriestGeek
10/20/09

In reply to Helen Thomas Defends Fox Against Obama Administration
There's a saying, "Don't fight with the pig. All you get is dirty and besides, the pig likes it." #helenthomas
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Kivrin
10/20/09

In reply to Helen Thomas Defends Fox Against Obama Administration
Plenty of people already call out Fox News for its shenanigans. I'd rather hear the Obama team call out the senators and representatives who are ignoring their constituents' demands for a public health option. Or, better yet, maybe they could call out themselves for supporting Bush-era detention schemes and endless wars. Y'know, minor shit like that. #helenthomas
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riverox
10/20/09

@Kivrin: Wish I could double-heart you for that. #helenthomas
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Kivrin
10/20/09

@riverox: Aw, thanks. You gave me a warm feeling in my heart, so that's even better! :) #helenthomas
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babyruthless
10/20/09

In reply to Helen Thomas Defends Fox Against Obama Administration
I was watching CNN recently, and they had a White House staffer on who was talking (for a really long time--I was doing something else, but it seemed like it crossed several commerical breaks) about how Fox was the propaganda arm of the RNC. The whole time, I was thinking, "well, yeah, of course, and everyone either knows it or has bought into the 'Fair and Balanced' schtick. Either way, you're not going to win any converts, and you kind of look like you're whining." Looks like Helen Thomas and I think alike. #helenthomas
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BetteD
10/20/09

In reply to Helen Thomas Defends Fox Against Obama Administration
While I agree that it may not be the place of the current administration to take down Fox News, somebody needs to do it. They are not the messengers, they are the liars.

This isn't a matter of Fox News simply proffering a viewpoint that skews wildly towards the right. It's them doing so while providing false data and outright lies that defame public figures and organizations without apology or redaction.

The lies and misinformation spewed by Fox News is a danger not only to the public and truth itself but also to journalism as a whole. Journalism is a struggling medium, one whose true purpose is frequently lost in the hustle and glitter of new media. The attitude of most people, even many people on the left, is that Fox is a ridiculous and illegitimate entity, but one that cannot be silenced because people like it and it makes money.

Someone needs to threaten Fox with some sort of meaningful censure, because there are people out there who believe what they say to be the gospel truth. I'm all for threatening them with forced disclaimers on their broadcasts that read: "The opinions expressed in this broadcast are not based upon reality." Until then, I'll just keep not watching it. #helenthomas
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MaBell
10/20/09

@BetteD: Yes. What on earth ever happened to the stipulation that broadcasters had to broadcast "in the public interest?" I realize that condition applied to use of the broadcast spectrum and not the current, cable-dominant system, but those four little words brought us some (not perfect) but pretty decent news for many years.

I mean, I'll continue to not watch cable news, but I'm afraid the "if you don't like it, don't watch it" approach will not lead to the high-quality news that we all deserve. #helenthomas
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logruszed
10/20/09

@MaBell: There is a larger segment of the population with an interest in having their ignorance and fears bolstered and confirmed. #helenthomas
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logruszed
10/20/09

@logruszed: oops. "large" not "larger". #helenthomas
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MaBell
10/20/09

@logruszed: Yes. Maybe that's the problem. That the "public interest" has come to mean what the public is interested in rather than what is in our interest as the public. #helenthomas
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hydrogen_jukebox
10/20/09

In reply to Helen Thomas Defends Fox Against Obama Administration
Helen Thomas: Voice of Temperance in the Weary, Lie-Addled, Frustrated World o' Media. #helenthomas
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