@shorty63136: The Games will be in Vancouver in winter. The torch-lighting ceremony was today, in Olympia Greece.
Or maybe you got that and I have no sense of humour today (?) #olympicflame
@shorty63136: Well... it's coming over to Victoria by plane, and then will be run on a relay, kilometre by kilometre, through every Province and Territory in Canada, by people who applied to be part of the relay, before it gets to the Opening Ceremonies on Feb. 12.
More than you probably needed to know! #olympicflame
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Can't really judge the dad for doing that without knowing absolutely anything about this... There may have been reasons. When a mother kidnaps a child usually we can think of a couple of excuses why she may have done it, usually there is a certain degree of desperation involved for various reasons...
@colormeroutine: Its not the best way to handle the situation.
But, without knowing the facts, I have to withhold judgment.
I've personally known quite a few mothers and fathers who have been forced by courts to share custody with criminally abusive ex-partners.
I've read of many, many more.
I can't say that if I were in such a situation I wouldn't leave the country asap.
Domestic law can be super fucked up.
For example, many times a man will incredibly psychologically & physically to abusive to a woman.
But even if the woman leaves him to save herself and her kids, the courts take the stance that "the man has never hurt the kids" and "Until he hurts them" he can not be seen as a threat and will therefore have partial (unsupervised) custody. Even if the woman is in her last trimester of pregnancy and his brutally beaten some courts will be of the opinion that the abuser has never technically hurt the child and is therefore a fit gaurdian.
Many women do not leave their abusive spouses because of the fear of their children being ruthlessly abused with no one (mom) to help them.
@fluxus flucker: This is true, which is why I said that was a point. And of course there is the possibility that the woman in this case was abusive in some way. But there is also the fact that, in general, men have a much easier time getting custody removed from women, with any kind of evidence, than the other way around. I'm not making judgment either way
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Or maybe you got that and I have no sense of humour today (?) #olympicflame
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Thanks all. I feel like I knew that about the traveling flame but cannot confirm it...which means I completely forgot. =) #olympicflame
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More than you probably needed to know! #olympicflame
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But, without knowing the facts, I have to withhold judgment.
I've personally known quite a few mothers and fathers who have been forced by courts to share custody with criminally abusive ex-partners.
I've read of many, many more.
I can't say that if I were in such a situation I wouldn't leave the country asap.
Domestic law can be super fucked up.
For example, many times a man will incredibly psychologically & physically to abusive to a woman.
But even if the woman leaves him to save herself and her kids, the courts take the stance that "the man has never hurt the kids" and "Until he hurts them" he can not be seen as a threat and will therefore have partial (unsupervised) custody. Even if the woman is in her last trimester of pregnancy and his brutally beaten some courts will be of the opinion that the abuser has never technically hurt the child and is therefore a fit gaurdian.
Many women do not leave their abusive spouses because of the fear of their children being ruthlessly abused with no one (mom) to help them.
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