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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
12/06/09

In reply to Former Escort Ashley Dupre: Prostitutes Help Keep Married Men Married
fuck this wanton use of the word 'hooker' in the comments is offensive.
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redqueenmeg
12/04/09

In reply to Former Escort Ashley Dupre: Prostitutes Help Keep Married Men Married
Well, as long as she doesn't expect anyone to ever be faithful to her, I guess that's fair.
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kookla
12/05/09

@redqueenmeg: Right on!
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pikachugo
12/05/09

@redqueenmeg: more importantly, to ever tell the truth to her.

if someone can lie about having sex with other people, i'm pretty sure they don't have the spine to tell the truth about anything else.
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Marya
12/05/09

@redqueenmeg: Why shouldn't she expect her partners to be faithful to her? It's not her fault that her clients choose to cheat on their wives. If she had been in some other line of work, Eliot Spitzer would just have slept with a different girl.
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redqueenmeg
12/06/09

@Marya: Why shouldn't she? Because she JUST SAID that prostitutes keep married men married. I would be intrigued to know if she continues in that philosophy should she herself ever get married.
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redqueenmeg
12/06/09

@pikachugo: I do worry about that.
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Marya
12/06/09

@redqueenmeg: She didn't say that all married men SHOULD go see prostitutes, or that they all do. As I understood her comment, she meant that, for some unhappily married men, going to see a prostitute helps them remain in their marriages -- which is probably true, whether or not you think it's a good thing. I don't think any of this has any bearing on whether or not she should expect her future husband to be faithful to her.
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PaintedTrollop
12/04/09

In reply to Former Escort Ashley Dupre: Prostitutes Help Keep Married Men Married
Oh, I get it! Ashley is a feminist! She was taking the peen for the team.
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Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
Guidos are, sadly, not exclusive to the East Coast. I swear to god, half of these kids went to Indiana University with me and the other half hang out in San Francisco's North Beach neighborhood. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.
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you've got red on you
12/04/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: You went to IU, eh? I grew up in Btown and went to IU too. I agree, there were TONS of these people around there. Lots of Juicy sweats and streaked black hair and overly tanned hot messes. But for some reason I think IU has a huge influx of East Coast kids, too.
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Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini
12/04/09

@you've got red on you: i think a lot of those types come down from Chicago, though I know that half of NYC sends their kids to IU for a quaint, small-town experience.

I grew up just down the road in Columbus, IN and spent my weekends in Bloomington as a teenager. I loved IU and wish I could go back for more.
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morninggloria
12/04/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: Seriously. I'm pretty sure that I work with a guy who is Chicago's answer to the guido. He and his friends had a housewarming party the other week, and it was sort of like this, but in a high rise.
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k_wood
12/04/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: I went to IU too! These guys were everywhere, most lived in Smallwood and would be seen driving to class and constantly smoking.
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Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini
12/05/09

@k_wood: ah, Smallwood, that's not a name I expected to ever read on Jezebel. Strategically placed directly across the street from the giant Big Red Liquors, so you could never pick up seven handles of vodka or a keg in peace. I had a few friends who worked there and the stories from the Smallwood Guidos are legendary.
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Jenloveshercurves
12/05/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: Hold the phone, they come from the Chicago 'burbs, not Chicago proper. Chicago would get an influx of these types, though, but they aren't from Chicago proper, they are from Shamburg.
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mariamariamaria
12/05/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: You've seen guidos and stellas in North Beach? Really? I've seen tourists and actual from Italy Italians but never guidos. That said, in the Bay Area, the local guidos are not necessarily Italian. I swear my cousins are the Latino versions (nowhere near that tacky though!)
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Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini
12/05/09

@Jenloveshercurves: sorry, i should have said "The Region." The whole conversation about what's considered really Chicago is confusing.
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Jenloveshercurves
12/05/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: Chicago is Chicago, not the suburbs.
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Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini
12/05/09

@Jenloveshercurves: Yeah, and people from the suburbs will argue with you on that one and I really don't care enough to make the distinction. I apologized already for my confusion, so I don't know why you are continuing on my case about it. I went to college with thousands of people from the Region and all of the claimed to be from Chicago and fought with each other about who was really a Chicagoan and I honestly do not care. Like I said, I should have referred to it as the Region, but I find it hard to believe that there is not a single enclave of Guido-types in Chicago proper and every one of them comes from the suburbs.
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Jenloveshercurves
12/05/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: I'm sorry for my nastiness. It's not you. It's sort of like the distinction of people all over the tri-state area trying to say where they are from. Or people from the greater bay area claiming San Francisco. It's one of those things that people get all up in arms about. It has alot to do with people in the burbs not voting for things to help the city and the city being crazy blue and the burbs being red and also people who actually live in the city getting upset when suburban folk come in and treat their home like a tourist destination and act all rude and throw up everywhere and drive drunk and park illegally during Cubs games and don't know how to use public transportation or get all in front of them and muck up sidewalk traffic when they are trying to go to work or home during the holiday season. The only time I've experienced someone who was actually openly hostile and rude to me in the city was a suburban father who cussed me out because I politely told him that in the city, we don't yell at people trying to get around them to go to work, especially when they say, "excuse me." Suburban people also think of Chicago as downtown Chicago and maybe Wrigley, maybe. They have no knowledge of the other neighborhoods in the city and are afraid of anything south of the museum campus. I've experienced this with SF natives too, alot. I've seen them go off on people who don't know what the Sunset is.
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Tchotchke
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
My freshman year in college, my roommate had a bunch of her friends from home come to visit. One of these friends was of the guido persuasion. So, my roommate and her friends go out that night, and the guido got completely drunk by about 8 pm, so they dropped him off in our room to sleep. I was in the room at the time because I had a paper due that week and while I was sitting at my desk I heard a voice coming from the bed:

"Psssst! Hey baby, you Italian?"
-"Uh, no, I'm not."
"Oh. That's too bad."

And then he passed out again.
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lafleur
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
Call me sweetheart again. I dare you.
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Alohamaid
12/04/09

@lafleur: a woman after my own heart. Thus, hearted.
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PorkStore
12/04/09

@lafleur: What I hate about being called "sweetheart" by men who don't know me: You don't know me! You don't know that I'm a sweetheart! Maybe I'm an asshole? Sweetheart is lame because it's a generic female petname that does nothing for me except clearly illustrate that you think all women can be easily won over by the smallest sign of attention from a man.

That is all.
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lafleur
12/04/09

@PorkStore: I'm only cool with patronizing names when older British gentlemen non-creepily call me "darling" or "love".
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Jenloveshercurves
12/05/09

@lafleur: I told my friend not to call me sweetheart unless he was fucking me the other day. He laughed.
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gold_gato
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
"cool" chick = girl who will do whatever I want
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OneTwoPunch
12/04/09

@gold_gato: Sadly, as some men age, their attitude remains the same.
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Conchie Birdie
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
What I was surprised about was that it was actually a Real World-esque show... like a cheaper version, where all the housemates have to drive themselves to the house, they sleep on cots, their rooftop deck is just a bunch of astroturf and secondhand couches, etc. It's like just when I thought they couldn't get any lower, they did.
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rhymeswithfeather
12/04/09

@Conchie Birdie: I know. For some reason, I was expecsting Hills-esque 'reality,' which would at least profile these people in plausible, potentially 'real' situations. I had no idea they'd just be in some house obviously decorated to play off more stereotypes.
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Conchie Birdie
12/04/09

@rhymeswithfeather: Well, personally, I thought it was way more entertaining than anything Hills-esque could ever be. But yes, it is Real World-esque in playing off of stereotypes as well.
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rhymeswithfeather
12/04/09

@Conchie Birdie: Hah! I agree; it was entertaining. I just somehow expected it to be entirely different.
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Zulkey
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
I honestly didn't think guidos existed until I spent a night in Manasquan. Then again I don't think the ones I met had ever heard of "Chicago."

To be fair though the "Guido Room" at the Osprey had way better music, IMO than the 'regular' room.
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Tchotchke
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
I'm trying very hard to understand the mechanics of this pink-eye infection. So, basically, when women dance (especially "fatties"), poop particles fly out of their tushes. If you are so bold as to tunnel under them at a club, you may be hit with one of those particles and if one of them lands in your eye, you will contract conjuctivitis. Also, this disease is airborne, so you should wear knock-off Versace wrap-around sunglasses to properly shield yourself from the dreaded infection.
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Dave J.
12/04/09

@Tchotchke: That replay was kind of like the Zapruder tape of pink-eye epidemiology.
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Tchotchke
12/04/09

@Dave J.: I can't wait until Oliver Stone makes a film about it.
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BabyJane
12/04/09

@Tchotchke: What an excellent job you did with that! I'm laughing so hard at your comment that I have tears in my eyes.
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BeSarcastic
12/04/09

@Tchotchke: One wonders why we call it "pink eye" when "poop eye" will do just fine.
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GirlFailer
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
I am failing to see any difference between these men and women, and the usual cast of "real world". Except maybe the fact that these roommates all have dark hair and similar accents. They're all a bunch of morons that can't hold their booze... sounds pretty standard for MTV.
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cirocco
12/04/09

@GirlFailer: At first I wondered why they didn't run this under the Real World brand, too. I think it's a combination of:

a) RW has been on for what, twenty years? Its target market may consider the title to be played out, as it's been on since they were in utero.

b) RW is about bringing together eight people who are selected to be as diverse as possible (ethnicity, upbringing, sexuality). This show was cast to be as homogeneous as possible. And yet they still hate one another after mere days!
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Tchotchke
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
I object to the fact that these people are being referred to as examples of "Jersey." Only one of these clowns is from New Jersey and it's worth noting that she is by far the less vile of the bunch.
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winner
12/04/09

@Tchotchke: Where are the rest from? Long Island, Staten Island and certain parts of Queens certainly share the blame in my mind.
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Tchotchke
12/04/09

@winner: Yeah, a bunch (maybe 4-5) were from Staten Island. One is from Rhode Island (????).
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winner
12/04/09

@Tchotchke: Oh weird! Wikipedia just told me this: "States known for their high concentrations of Italian Americans include Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York,Massachusetts and Pennsylvania. Among major cities across the country, New York City, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, Miami, and Providence have America's six largest Italian communities."
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veronykah
12/04/09

@winner: Why does everyone forget about BROOKLYN?
There are plenty of guidos in Bensonhurst and Bay Ridge too...
Its not just hipsters, guidos were actually there first.
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winner
12/04/09

@veronykah: Because I live in Brooklyn, damnit!

But you're right; Brooklyn is probably the birthplace of the guido.
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girlfriend 6.0
12/04/09

@winner: The "Tri-Guido" Area of Rhode Island

Johnston, Cranston, & North Providence
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winner
12/04/09

@girlfriend 6.0: Who knew?!
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dropdeadpoet
12/05/09

@winner: When you go to google image search and type in guido, the first image is a frightening trio from my boyfriend's high school (in prom gear). My boyfriend went to high school in Rhode Island and is Italian American. He has informed me that while RI is tiny, its high concentration of Italians has made it a breeding ground for scarily overtanned people in love with hair gel.
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winner
12/05/09

@dropdeadpoet: Wait. This???? This is fucking HORRIFYING!!! I thought it was a joke for sure!!!
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belltolls
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
Painful? Horrible? Last night was The Reality Television Rapture!
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Perhaps Not
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
"I didn't think they were going to be those typical Jersey Shore guys."

Really? Did no one tell you the name of the show?
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DutchessOfDork
12/04/09

In reply to Jersey Shore: "Like a Horror Movie"
My friends and I have always ascribed that Cock blockers should be punished with death. Unless of course the girl is too drunk to consent to anything.
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