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    Image of SBJ SBJ
    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Badass. Your quirky bashful face in the beginning was kind of the best part, though, aside from all of the spot-on things said. Can't wait to show the tomboy!
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    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Great job. I did love, however, how he had you comment on the Jackson Jive debacle as a New Zealander because it's "near Australia."
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    Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith promoted this comment Dvora was starred Dvora was unstarred
    Image of Jenna Jenna
    10/15/09

    @Dvora: You probably take the harbour bridge to Sydney all the time, don't you! #vogueblackface
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    Image of KibblMeCurly KibblMeCurly
    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Why is it important whether or not Whites are offended by people in Blackface?? It's great if they are, but Vogue is very clearly a White magazine that has managed to exclude and offend Black people the world over with their exclusionary tactics and Blackface stunt. I don't get why "whether or not Whites are offended by what a White magazine did" is somehow the deciding factor in whether or not this is truly offensive to the people they are clearly offending (people of African descent).

    And Mr. Don Lemon...you don't know whether or not you're offended?? Give me a freaking break. You're on CNN and interested in keeping your paycheck. Please don't present your watered down quasi-opinions as if they are actually you're own or indicative of how you truly feel. Puh-lease.
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    superconnected (is it time to leave?) promoted this comment SarahMC approved this comment KibblMeCurly was starred KibblMeCurly was unstarred
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    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Well done, Jenna. Like what SBJ wrote earlier, come back to SF! The NorCal jezzies miss you.
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    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Great stuff! I love it when he asks for the 'official' Jezebel stance on the issue at the end - what does he think this is, the UN?!
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    Plum-Pie promoted this comment Dulcinea was starred Dulcinea was unstarred
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    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Jenna, you threw a couple of excellent bish pleeze faces in there. Well done.
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    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Go Jenna! Go Jezebel! We win! Sort of!
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    Image of geckogirl geckogirl
    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Very well spoken :)

    The thing that is still bothering me about this specific incident is that the concept could have been well executed. There could have been black models in white paint, a mix of models in a mix of skin tones (divided down the middle, splitting the body in half stylistically or whatever artsy mumbo jumbo you'd like to do). That I could actually see as working toward some sort of artistic statement on skintone or just simply a well-thought out play between the concepts of light and dark by a variety of model types.

    Unfortunately, I think they managed to do the opposite.
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    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Woah, woah, woah.
    Models can talk??!?
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    10/14/09

    I know! And without a magazine editor at her side!
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    10/14/09

    @andBegorrah: AP Modeling.
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    Trulymadlyme promoted this comment winner was starred winner was unstarred
    Image of Harlot Brontë Harlot Brontë
    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Jenna has the world's greatest I know, right? eyebrow lift. I'm now going to go stand in front of the mirror and practice until I've got it down. Or up.
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    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    Well done, Jenna. You are an excellent face to the Jezebel brand. Smart, sharp, eloquent.
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    10/14/09

    In reply to French Vogue Controversy Goes To Cable
    I love your accent!
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    DexterHaven promoted this comment ShanaElmsford was starred ShanaElmsford was unstarred
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    10/14/09

    @ShanaElmsford: Likewise!
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    Image of grace darling grace darling
    10/13/09

    In reply to Oh No They Didn't: French Vogue Does Blackface
    I'm of two minds. My first reaction wasn't "oh my God, blackface!" but "hey, it's a tired Art Historical model-as-muse spread." I read the first shot as a Black Madonna, the fifth as pure Gauguin. Pretty much all of these looks and shots can be linked to 13th-21st Century art movements.

    I also found the layers of paint (and cracking paint) and the recurrent masking to be making a more complex statement about race and identity than a "blackface" argument allows. I was struck dumb by the amount of comments downthread suggesting that this sort of a statement would be more explicit had a black model been painted white, as I would have found that at least as offensive as many have found this ("we have to hire a token black girl? oh. can we make her a white girl?").

    On the other hand, it's a loaded gesture that an American photographer should have been more sensitive about. Hell, nationality doesn't really let the French off the hook. I'm Australian, and let me tell you, most people I know were appalled by the Hey Hey segment. Blackface isn't entirely unique to the US, something Bindi Cole explored in her recent work 'Not Really Aboriginal' (link at bottom).

    I think, for me, it comes down to avoiding a knee-jerk reaction to allusions to race or racism as BEING racist. I don't think Cole's work is racist, despite riffing off blackface, and as racism is a grave accusation, I'm not entirely ready to dismiss what could be an interesting experiment on French Vogue's behalf out of hand. But of course, I might be being entirely too generous to a publication that didn't even allow Lara Stone pants.

    ETA: apologies for my seeming inability to embed or activate links.
    [[www.ccp.org.au/docs/catalogues/BindiCole.pdf]]
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    10/12/09

    In reply to Oh No They Didn't: French Vogue Does Blackface

    Harry Connick Jr. give this spread a 0.
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    10/12/09

    In reply to Oh No They Didn't: French Vogue Does Blackface
    French Vogue also recently did a shoot in which a female model dressed up as a boy. It didn't offend anyone, as far as I know.

    I don't mean for a second that the two are analogous. But surely we do eventually hope to get to a point where, just as a photographer might put a blond wig on a brunette model, or dress a boy as a girl, or vice versa, or whatever - we can see skin colour just as another difference to play with in the way we play with others? That would be the ideal of a post-racial world... but I'm not sure that we're anything like being there yet, and so I'm decidedly unsure what I make of this shoot.
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