I've known for many years that I might be susceptible to premature ovarian failure, as my mom ran out of eggs around the age of 32. I'm 30 now and, while I'm not really wild about the idea of having kids in general, I think that if kids *were* a priority for me, a test like this would make me miserable - because it would increase the likelihood that I would have panicked, rushed into a bad relationship just to get knocked up, and possibly be resentful of both child and partner today.
As it is, I've always taken what I view as an appropriately fatalistic view of the whole thing - *if* I find the right partner, *if* we both want kids, *if* I can biologically have them, then, well okay. If any of the factors don't line up and I still want kids, there's adoption (my dad was adopted, so it's not a foreign thing to my family). Even a generation ago, people just accepted that sometimes one's biology is not meant to reproduce itself, and they found other ways to have kids in their lives.
And yes, a "family" can consist of partners and their relatives - no biological kids necessary.
Personally, I'm much more comfortable with the idea that what is supposed to happen will just happen.
Of course, right now it looks like I'm not keen on having babies anyway, I'm in a relationship with a wonderful man who has one child and wants no more, and I've always prioritized a partner relationship over the idea of a parent-child one, so perhaps I don't understand the mindset of someone who wants parenthood above and beyond all else. #fertilitytest
@SweetIo: Obviously? But it's a cure to having a child to love and care for. I've heard all the arguments against adoption before, most of them based on eugenics, and all I can say is yes: these women deserve a cure, or some sort of miracle operation so that they might regain...whatever I suppose they think they have lost, besides the obvious ability to give birth.
But I wish society would stop pressuring women into thinking that if they can't have children, that they are somehow failures because of this, or their husbands will leave them and cheat on them or some such. Celebs even going out and having surrogate mothers instead of adopting children who already need homes, who are stuck in the system and who want loving families.
It's just all very strange to me, because I come from a large family of adopters, some because of infertility and some not. I've done a whole lot of research on IVF, and other methods to reach that goal of impregnating ones self, and it's very striking to me, sort of scary, that many people view adoption as not an option.
This is why I was throwing it out there, to remind people, you know, it's not all about the stomach and the aches and the birth, sometimes it's about just love, and acceptance, and family. If this is offensive to anyone, then I'm sorry, but this is how I feel, deeply.
In my state alone 1,915 children need homes, 742 of them are the same age as my brother, and those numbers just make me want to cry, because in many ways, it seems like not enough people realize. [www.dcf.state.fl.us]#fertilitytest
@Kayleigh R. Carter: No shit? Adoption is an option? Well hallelujah, my problems are solved.
Do you honestly believe that women who are having trouble conceiving are not already *aware* of this? It is, quite frankly, insulting. It sucks bad enough being infertile, but then people act like you are selfish for treating it.
Of course I have thought about adopting! I may very well follow that path at some point. But it is not easy and simple and all rainbow unicorn farts. I know people who spent tons of money and went through emotional upheaval, only to have the bio mother back out. My cousin adopted from the foster system and had to fight over two years to keep her kids because the bio mother changed her mind and despite her being on drugs and unstable, the system prefers to place children back with their bio parents when possible.
And yet, still people like you love to say "Why don't you just adopt?!" #fertilitytest
@SweetIo: Your anger towards me is completely uncalled for. I never said all people who are infertile don't know it's an option, I said many don't consider it an option because they feel adopted kids are not good enough.
My parents also fought for my brother for 3 years to adopt him and they don't regret a moment of it, just like someone who was actually successful with IVF would not regret it. But if you put them side by side (in my state), adoption is cheaper, not only because the average amount of money spent to conceive a child with IVF is 10 thou to 100 thou dollars, but also because children adopted through the Florida foster care system have college tuition paid for in a four year college.
My brother never has to put himself through college, I feel proud that he's going to have a more stable education than me, especially in these times. This reasoning may sound stoic to some ("Why should I adopt when I can just have my own with IVF, my children are more important than money!") but to provide a child with a home and an education is, in my book, kind of a plus!
I do love to say that, I will never once feel bad about EVER saying that. It's ridiculous that you could find a problem with it at all. My boyfriend had to point out to me that your probably feeling things I never felt. What really makes this awful though, is that, if I wasn't in the same boat as you, you would act like my opinion didn't mater based on that. I didn't get angry and start flamming people who could have biological children, it's not been about me wanting to fix myself, it's been about me wanting to give all the love I can give, and about having a family based on that.
Of course, I was a huge advocate of adoption before I ever knew. So when I was told, I felt relieved to know what was going on, and I knew exactly my course of action. So we are different people, and I don't just tell infertile women to adopt, I tell everyone to, and I'm never going to stop. I'm not trying to fix your problems because I don't care about your damn problems, I'm trying to fix the problems of these cast aside children.
Again, the women who want to have a cure deserve a cure. I don't waver about that, I hope they can give you what you need to be happy. People deserve whatever family they want, but that opinion doesn't just stop at adults, which is why I'm passionate about it. #fertilitytest
@Kayleigh R. Carter: I promise I won't keep replying after this...
Your initial comment saying "One word: Adoption" on a post about infertility was completely insensitive. For me to infer that you were judging people who chose to pursue treatment instead of adopting was not a stretch. Adoption can be a great way to build your family. However, it is not right for everyone and so often women who are infertile are treated as though they are being selfish for wanting to pursue treatment instead of adopting an older child with disabilities through the foster system.
I get the impression that you are still pretty young. I hope you are able to build your family the way you want - but realize that it is a complex matter and what is right for you may not be right for everyone. #fertilitytest
Couldn't they do something similar to this a long time ago? It wasn't the same but before I was born they did some sort of genetic testing and said that when I had children I would most likely have twins. Which was later supported by the fact that when I ovulate, I usually drop multiple eggs. #fertilitytest
If I could freeze my eggs and know that if I didnt want kiddies when the time came Id be able to give em away I would be the happiest XY ever. #fertilitytest
@clevernamehere: Very few people pressure men into have kids before they're ready. Also, there seems to be some weird myth that men can have a healthy child no problem no matter what age they are. #fertilitytest
@femme-bot: Oh, man, there totally is. People ask me when I want to have kids. The answer is "never", but to avoid an argument, I say "Well, now isn't really the time for me. I'm in school, I don't have much money, I'm stressed out, blah blah blah...".
"But what does your boyfriend think? Soon, you'll be too old to have a baby."
...I'm 22. "Uh, he agrees with me."
"Well, the clock's a-ticking!" (I like to insert a LOL here, because if they were typing, I think they would add one instead of punctuation)
My "boyfriend" never gets that. He is also reminded that my "clock" is ticking. THANKS GUYS. #fertilitytest
Regarding the Fail photo: I think she's weighing whether the sperm "wasted" through oral sex will be regretted in the coming years, as his potency diminishes. Maybe they should freeze some now... #fertilitytest
I don't know, this seems like information I would rather not have. I was still confused in my 20s on who I was and who I wanted to be - not a time to be making lifetime decisions because the clock is ticking early. The test doesn't seem like a guarantee that I wouldn't be able to have kids later, or that I would - it just sounds like more pressure where it isn't needed. #fertilitytest
@McBroken: Exactly. If someone would have told me that it would take over a year to get pregnant with babe #1, would I have started earlier? Done something differently? I have no clue, but I definitely couldn't have made that decision at 20ish, before I was married or ready for kids. #fertilitytest
There are so many factors that contribute to infertility. It's just not as cut and dry as this research tries to make it. Sure it would be wonderful if we could just plan "I'd like a girl first, in October of 2012, and then a boy next in January of 2014." But if everything was easily planned I wouldn't have baby #2. #fertilitytest
When will science identify the douchebag gene that makes certain guys freak out at the prospect of raising children after they're born and a propensity toward sequin tiger t-shirts? #fertilitytest
Michael Pollan talked about Julia on NPR's Fresh Air earlier this week. He loved how she actually cooked, unedited, on her shows; waiting for butter to melt, veggies to be chopped et al
Today it is mostly Dump N Stir shows which don't really teach you about one of the most important components of GOOD cooking....patience.
To me, it is the equivalent of comparing an extended sexual session, complete with many orgasms (female) versus a "quickie" - the former being so much more satisfying.
I'd like to think real cooking will make a comeback
Fuck me I love the incredible edible egg. This reminds me of that episode of Nigella on nostalgia cooking where she made eggs with cream in a little custard pot (the french name escapes me but Julia made them there) because that's what Nigella's mother always served sunday evening. I loved the idea of this socialite married to a big deal politician making her children eggs herself for sunday dinner after teh big sunday roast lunch. Stars their just like us they have breakfast for dinners on lazy sundays too.
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As it is, I've always taken what I view as an appropriately fatalistic view of the whole thing - *if* I find the right partner, *if* we both want kids, *if* I can biologically have them, then, well okay. If any of the factors don't line up and I still want kids, there's adoption (my dad was adopted, so it's not a foreign thing to my family). Even a generation ago, people just accepted that sometimes one's biology is not meant to reproduce itself, and they found other ways to have kids in their lives.
And yes, a "family" can consist of partners and their relatives - no biological kids necessary.
Personally, I'm much more comfortable with the idea that what is supposed to happen will just happen.
Of course, right now it looks like I'm not keen on having babies anyway, I'm in a relationship with a wonderful man who has one child and wants no more, and I've always prioritized a partner relationship over the idea of a parent-child one, so perhaps I don't understand the mindset of someone who wants parenthood above and beyond all else. #fertilitytest
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But I wish society would stop pressuring women into thinking that if they can't have children, that they are somehow failures because of this, or their husbands will leave them and cheat on them or some such. Celebs even going out and having surrogate mothers instead of adopting children who already need homes, who are stuck in the system and who want loving families.
It's just all very strange to me, because I come from a large family of adopters, some because of infertility and some not. I've done a whole lot of research on IVF, and other methods to reach that goal of impregnating ones self, and it's very striking to me, sort of scary, that many people view adoption as not an option.
This is why I was throwing it out there, to remind people, you know, it's not all about the stomach and the aches and the birth, sometimes it's about just love, and acceptance, and family. If this is offensive to anyone, then I'm sorry, but this is how I feel, deeply.
In my state alone 1,915 children need homes, 742 of them are the same age as my brother, and those numbers just make me want to cry, because in many ways, it seems like not enough people realize. [www.dcf.state.fl.us] #fertilitytest
11/10/09
Do you honestly believe that women who are having trouble conceiving are not already *aware* of this? It is, quite frankly, insulting. It sucks bad enough being infertile, but then people act like you are selfish for treating it.
Of course I have thought about adopting! I may very well follow that path at some point. But it is not easy and simple and all rainbow unicorn farts. I know people who spent tons of money and went through emotional upheaval, only to have the bio mother back out. My cousin adopted from the foster system and had to fight over two years to keep her kids because the bio mother changed her mind and despite her being on drugs and unstable, the system prefers to place children back with their bio parents when possible.
And yet, still people like you love to say "Why don't you just adopt?!" #fertilitytest
11/12/09
My parents also fought for my brother for 3 years to adopt him and they don't regret a moment of it, just like someone who was actually successful with IVF would not regret it. But if you put them side by side (in my state), adoption is cheaper, not only because the average amount of money spent to conceive a child with IVF is 10 thou to 100 thou dollars, but also because children adopted through the Florida foster care system have college tuition paid for in a four year college.
My brother never has to put himself through college, I feel proud that he's going to have a more stable education than me, especially in these times. This reasoning may sound stoic to some ("Why should I adopt when I can just have my own with IVF, my children are more important than money!") but to provide a child with a home and an education is, in my book, kind of a plus!
I do love to say that, I will never once feel bad about EVER saying that. It's ridiculous that you could find a problem with it at all. My boyfriend had to point out to me that your probably feeling things I never felt. What really makes this awful though, is that, if I wasn't in the same boat as you, you would act like my opinion didn't mater based on that. I didn't get angry and start flamming people who could have biological children, it's not been about me wanting to fix myself, it's been about me wanting to give all the love I can give, and about having a family based on that.
Of course, I was a huge advocate of adoption before I ever knew. So when I was told, I felt relieved to know what was going on, and I knew exactly my course of action. So we are different people, and I don't just tell infertile women to adopt, I tell everyone to, and I'm never going to stop. I'm not trying to fix your problems because I don't care about your damn problems, I'm trying to fix the problems of these cast aside children.
Again, the women who want to have a cure deserve a cure. I don't waver about that, I hope they can give you what you need to be happy. People deserve whatever family they want, but that opinion doesn't just stop at adults, which is why I'm passionate about it. #fertilitytest
11/13/09
Your initial comment saying "One word: Adoption" on a post about infertility was completely insensitive. For me to infer that you were judging people who chose to pursue treatment instead of adopting was not a stretch. Adoption can be a great way to build your family. However, it is not right for everyone and so often women who are infertile are treated as though they are being selfish for wanting to pursue treatment instead of adopting an older child with disabilities through the foster system.
I get the impression that you are still pretty young. I hope you are able to build your family the way you want - but realize that it is a complex matter and what is right for you may not be right for everyone. #fertilitytest
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"But what does your boyfriend think? Soon, you'll be too old to have a baby."
...I'm 22. "Uh, he agrees with me."
"Well, the clock's a-ticking!" (I like to insert a LOL here, because if they were typing, I think they would add one instead of punctuation)
My "boyfriend" never gets that. He is also reminded that my "clock" is ticking. THANKS GUYS. #fertilitytest
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"A gummy worm!"
No... that's not a gummy worm... #fertilitytest
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"Why do the French only eat one egg? Because it's un oeuf!"
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Today it is mostly Dump N Stir shows which don't really teach you about one of the most important components of GOOD cooking....patience.
To me, it is the equivalent of comparing an extended sexual session, complete with many orgasms (female) versus a "quickie" - the former being so much more satisfying.
I'd like to think real cooking will make a comeback
08/05/09