I'm calling correlation equals not causation. Schools with co-ed residence halls are more likely to be state schools or fairly liberal private institutions that don't intrude on student's personal lives. Institutions with more single-sex residence halls are usually religiously based and most definitely take an interest in student's personal lives. Also, the researchers information on student's not sorting themselves out is faulty. Most institutions allow students to give preferences as to where they would like to be placed, so while students might not give single-sex housing first priority, students who want a quieter environment will say that they prefer single-sex living environments over the more raucous co-ed environments. Also, the students are sorting themselves out before they even choose on campus housing by choosing what institution they will go to. Are students who choose say BYU over the University of Ohio inherently different, yes. Are students who go to BYU over the University of Ohio more likely to live in single sex housing, oh most definitely. The study is far from reliable in this instance. Since this is my field, I have seen other research that illustrates when men at institutions that have a history of heavy drinking and destructive behaviors start living with females, destructive behaviors and heavy drinking begin to drop. This is just a bad study. #college
@Jenloveshercurves: This is not to say that liberal institutions are concerned with student's personal lives, it's just that liberal institutions believe in not telling students what to do, but working with the consequences of students actions. IE: we aren't going to tell you to not have sex, but we are going to give you information on how to avoid STD's, pregnancy and other unwanted consequences and we aren't going to tell you to not drink, but you can't drink here and if your drinking has an affect on your school work or your living environment, there will be consequences, so here is how to drink in moderation. BYU would say, if you have premarital sex or drink, we're going to kick you out. #college
Okay, cool, but can we do a study on how many people in co-ed dorms will endure horrible midlife crisis, as opposed to those in same-sex dorms? I think some people need to get a wild phase out of their system. My dad partied through his youth, and then married my mom. His big mid life crisis: he went out and bought kayaks. One for him, one for mom/me/my sister or whoever wanted to keep him company. My uncle who was on the straight and narrow all his life hit 45, left his wife, started drinking a lot and going to strip clubs and trying to buy weed off of all of his nieces and nephews at family functions.
I'm not saying this is everybody. I am saying, some people need to get it out of their system, and dorm life is a good place for that. So uhhh, can everyone just explain to college students how to not give themselves severe alcohol poisoning or an STD, and then leave them alone and stop judging? #college
@Bunsen Honeydew: heh, my father did his college partying at UW-Madison, in '68-69. he's got some awesome stories. For his midlife crisis, he bought 27 acres of land and some solar panels to run his electric golf cart. He now has a small orchard and some grape vines. (We tease him that his midlife crisis was really a Hippie Crisis) #college
@spamanda: Hahaha sounds like our dads have similar ideas. My mom always said she loved that his midlife crisis was not three years older than me and blonde, and it did not require gas. #college
@Bunsen Honeydew: Yep! My mom was like, "well, there are definitely worse things to spend $50k on." And he's lost a ton of weight by working out there every weekend, so it was a win-win. #college
In other breaking news, people in restaurants more likely to eat meals; people at parties more likely to have a good time; people who read more likely to absorb knowledge. #college
I lived in a co-ed dorm. The only thing I was "likely" to encounter was some dude in the laundry room wearing his LAST pair of boxers because it was the only clean thing he had. And maybe occasionally some guy passed out in the womens' showers because he drunkenly stumbled into the wrong bathroom. #college
@funnyface: Living in a coed dorm resulted in my not having sex in college. But while seeing 18-year-old guys in their natural state may not have turned me on, it did drive me to drink. #college
@andBegorrah: Come to think of it, it might have been my revulsion at the boys in the dorm that led me to date and eventually marry someone 5 years older. #college
Causation does not equal correlation. The article says 90% if dorms are co-ed. That 10% still holding out are likely in 1. single sex schools or 2. religious schools (very religious- even my Jesuit campus has coed dorms).
For the latter, well, if they want to go to a school like that odds are the students already have pretty strong beliefs regarding sex and drinking.
For the former it could be a lack of preferred partner gender or because it seems like most single sex schools are women's colleges, which you usually have to be pretty academically strong to get into. Someone who worked her ass off to get into one of the seven sisters isn't going to blow it by getting tanked constantly. #college
@SocialAnimal: are you KIDDING me. You know, unless she's being caught in public punching herself in the belly or snorting coke or doing kegstands, I say let the pregnant women alone, for gods' sake--they don't need extra bullshit. #pregnancy
@Zulkey: Thank you. I'm pregnant right now - I've had people be like, oh, you won't be wanting coffee. Hello? I have a kid, too, how do you think I get through the day? #pregnancy
@mcpm: I am made of 25% tobacco and 0% breastmilk I turned out pretty well IMO. I mean I weigh 20 pounds and my IQ is 4 but still, I have a nice smile. #pregnancy
Ok, seriously, I am buying this. Last Christmas we bought my dad one of those "Yard of Beer" glasses that he will never use, and now it's mama's turn! :D #giantwineglass
If I didn't have to get up, go into the kitchen to get a refill, and then go back into the living room and reapply the slanket - I'd fall asleep WAY before my usual time of 10p.
HEY! You get up at 5:30a - walk three miles then work all day and see how long you hold up! #giantwineglass
I'm getting a pounding headache and acidic bowels just looking at that glass. I enjoy wine, I really do. But there is NOTHING worse than a wine hangover. #giantwineglass
@Aesop's Foibles. YES.: Sweet Lord, I am so with you on that...it makes you feel like all time has come to a stand still and you will never, ever know what it feels like to not be hungover, ever again. #giantwineglass
@ToUnfoldThem: Seriously. I've had some truly monstrous hangovers before in my vodka days, but the one that'll forever claim the crown was the two-day-long wine-induced one. I mean. I thought I was going to die. I vomited, I shat, I was dizzy and weak and wobbly, my mouth tasted like batteries, everything. I was actually scared. #giantwineglass
@Aesop's Foibles. YES.: Isn't that the worst? When you're like 27 and start crying and feel like you need to call your Mom because you're afraid you may die or something? #giantwineglass
@merc6point9: I've never had one, for this exact reason. Champagne is delicious but I've never gone there with it because I've heard it's really bad. Like, not-worth-it bad. #giantwineglass
@Aesop's Foibles. YES.: True story: Back in college I used to throw "champagne jams" where I'd pick up a case or two of the cheapest champagne in stock, empty out my fridge of all the leftover carry out and condiments (and sometimes the shelves too) and fill it with bottles. Everyone would always come because they were the best parties. Champagne is a fantastic drunk...very very happy! No one has a bad time. Then I started to realize that after I'd throw a champagne jam--aside from my own death-hangovers--I would literally not hear from any of my friends for a week or more. We'd all have two-day, and sometimes three-day, hangovers.
The only thing that ever came close to those hangovers was the time I tried to play century club with Franzia. #giantwineglass
I have cancelled 95% of all my champagne hangovers by switching from Cook's and Andre to the bruts in the $8-$12 range (Freixenet, Domaine St. Michelle, Sigura Viudas, Cristallino, Korbel, etc). The added sugars in the cheap bottles are what make the champagne hangover so awful. If I drink brut, coupled with some cheese and crackers and some water, I can go all night long and wake up with either a minor hangover or none at all, but never with the epic "HOLY BALLS CHAMPAGNE IS THE DEVIL'S DRINK" hangovers of my uneducated youth. #giantwineglass
@Aesop's Foibles. YES.: I actually drink wine more often now because it doesn't give me monstrous hangovers. But I usually drink organic wine - not out of any pretention, just because it tends to be easier on me. The worst hangover I ever had was from drinking Strongbow cider and champagne on New Year's once. I literally could not lift my head off the pillow for about 12 hours and was sick for two days. Never. Again. #giantwineglass
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I'm not saying this is everybody. I am saying, some people need to get it out of their system, and dorm life is a good place for that. So uhhh, can everyone just explain to college students how to not give themselves severe alcohol poisoning or an STD, and then leave them alone and stop judging? #college
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For the latter, well, if they want to go to a school like that odds are the students already have pretty strong beliefs regarding sex and drinking.
For the former it could be a lack of preferred partner gender or because it seems like most single sex schools are women's colleges, which you usually have to be pretty academically strong to get into. Someone who worked her ass off to get into one of the seven sisters isn't going to blow it by getting tanked constantly. #college
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HEY! You get up at 5:30a - walk three miles then work all day and see how long you hold up! #giantwineglass
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The only thing that ever came close to those hangovers was the time I tried to play century club with Franzia. #giantwineglass
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I have cancelled 95% of all my champagne hangovers by switching from Cook's and Andre to the bruts in the $8-$12 range (Freixenet, Domaine St. Michelle, Sigura Viudas, Cristallino, Korbel, etc). The added sugars in the cheap bottles are what make the champagne hangover so awful. If I drink brut, coupled with some cheese and crackers and some water, I can go all night long and wake up with either a minor hangover or none at all, but never with the epic "HOLY BALLS CHAMPAGNE IS THE DEVIL'S DRINK" hangovers of my uneducated youth. #giantwineglass
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