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MilointheMeadow
07/20/09

In reply to Teen Pregnancy, STDs Rose In Bush Years • Anti-Abortion Zealot Threatens "Violent Convulsions"
When I was living with my mom after college, I was also more likely to commit violent acts. Not due to more income (I had none) but because - I WAS LIVING WITH MY MOTHER.
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wtfox?!
07/20/09

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When Randall Terry says "violent convulsions," does he mean like he's going to fling himself down on the floor and start rolling around, drumming his heels, waving his fists, and screaming, and then threatening to hold his breath until he gets his way? Because I would find that amusing.
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Sanfo
07/20/09

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For anyone wanting actual ~science~ and ~statistics~ regarding methods of Sex Ed and the results on the population, the Guttmacher Institute ( http://www.guttmacher.org/ ) has a series of up-to-date studies, and relevant recommendations. It's incredible. I don't understand how these statistics aren't used more in the fight for comprehensive education.
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TheGuvnah
07/20/09

@Sanfo: guttmacher stats are ALWAYS used in the fight for repro rights including sex ed. not sure why you are assuming they aren't. they are the gold standard.
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Sanfo
07/21/09

@TheGuvnah: I'm so glad to hear it. When I worked for a local reproductive health and education group, none of my coworkers had heard of them.
I've never heard these stats referred to by name in many of the articles I've read- I just wanted to share a fantastic resource.
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EkaterinaBallerina
07/20/09

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""history will hold those in power responsible for the violent convulsions that follow."

Really Randall? Because it's been 35+ yrs since Roe v. Wade was passed and history still isn't holding them responsible. In fact, after each violent convulsion, you and the fucking wingnuts who follow you have been held accountable. FOR 35 FUCKING YEARS.

God, these people really are completely insane (and I mean these people, not anti-choicers in general. Most of them understand that violence only deters from the issue)
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lalaland13
07/20/09

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The Alamo thing makes me so nervous. In my experience, if the rest of the case is strong, that shouldn't matter too much, but I hate that jerkface and want him to rot in jail. Screaming "Get out Satan!" or whatever as he's raping a girl? WTF.
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
07/20/09

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I feel rather cheated that I'm not breaking out into violent convulsions.

I also feel as though we desperately need to sit the world - or at the least the country - down with a flow chart of "Choosing Your Choice".
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EsmereldaFitzmonster
07/20/09

@tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock: Unless these "convulsions" are the fantastic orgasms of all the educated and protected sex I'm having, then I'm not feeling 'em either. But if they are... would it be innaproppriate to say, "Giggety giggety"?
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Sanfo
07/20/09

@tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock: That sounds like quite a nice bedtime story. Do you want to work together to make a video involving sock puppets?
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Plate2.18
07/20/09

In reply to Teen Pregnancy, STDs Rose In Bush Years • Anti-Abortion Zealot Threatens "Violent Convulsions"
Correlation does not equal causation, though in general I do think abstinence-only education is a bad idea and probably is behind those trends.

I took health class two years ago in Arkansas, with some of those people who go around to schools and teach about abstinence, and it honestly wasn't that bad. They could have talked more about contraception, but overall they were pretty thorough and discussed a lot more than just abstinence.
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alouette
07/20/09

@Plate2.18: My school's health education taught both and while I can't say I would go around promoting exclusive abstinence, putting it on a "menu" so to speak of sexual choices is a laudable. It is an option after all, it just shouldn't be made out to be the only one.
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TheGuvnah
07/20/09

@Plate2.18: then that wasn't an abstinence only program. To be eligible for federal ab-only funds, programs need to meet 8 specific criteria that includes only discussing contraception in terms of its failure rates.

please don't be fooled by your experience. either that group/person wasn't actually a recipient of ab-only money or they were not following federal standards.
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TheGuvnah
07/20/09

@alouette: that's what comprehensive sex ed is. teaching pregnancy and sti prevention including abstinence.
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Plate2.18
07/20/09

@TheGuvnah: They were following federal standards. Like I said, they could have discussed contraception more, but I suppose you can't talk about failure rates without revealing success rates, too.

I don't think abstinence education is a good thing, I really don't. But it was a whole lot more informative than the rest of the health class, which was taught by a football coach who worked movies into the curriculum as much as possible. I'm still not sure how Armageddon was relevant to the class.
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alouette
07/20/09

@TheGuvnah: Right, just commending / appreciating its usefulness, that's all :)
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stoprobbers
07/20/09

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I do want to make note of some really awful comments made on the floor of the House by Representative Todd Tiahrt (R-Kansas) on Thursday regarding the DC abortion ban. The Congressman called the use of local funds for abortion a "financial incentive" to "encourage" women elligible for the funds to have abortions. Linking class with race, Tiahrt asked if President Obama's mother would have "taken advantage of [an abortion]." He asked the same question about Clarence Thomas, which is what makes the racial element of his line of thinking so obvious.

OBAMA'S MOTHER IS WHITE YOU FUCKING RACIST PIG. THAT TAKES YOUR DISGUSTING, RACIST, CLASSIST, AND SEXIST COMMENT TO A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL OF DISGUSTING. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH RESPECT FOR OUR PRESIDENT TO KNOW HIS FUCKING LINEAGE??? WERE YOU NOT AROUND FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS?!

You don't deserve to step foot in my goddamn city, much less have any CONTROL over it. Go die in a fire.
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hellosunshine
07/20/09

@stoprobbers: If you weren't already starred, I'd totally promote this comment. *thumbs up*
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Cafezinha
07/20/09

@stoprobbers: Yes, but she was carrying a black man's baby. THE HORRORS.
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SarahMC
07/20/09

@stoprobbers: BUT, as Nixon pointed out, when "a black and a white" make a baby, sometimes abortion is necessary.
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Dodgergirl
07/20/09

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Re: the Bush twins, this is not surprising, as I'd always assumed they had seen "My Date with the President's Daughter" a few too many times. They just wanted to hang with Eric Matthews.
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alouette
07/20/09

@Dodgergirl: First Daughter totally ripped off this film. Eric Matthews ftw.
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EsmereldaFitzmonster
07/20/09

@Dodgergirl: He's the Goodlooking Guy, who wouldn't?
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EsmereldaFitzmonster
07/20/09

@Dodgergirl: ARGH, I tried to link to the Youtube video but it won't work :(
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CurtCole
07/20/09

In reply to Teen Pregnancy, STDs Rose In Bush Years • Anti-Abortion Zealot Threatens "Violent Convulsions"
After election day 2000, I was so depressed that all I had on my agenda was drinking and fucking. Teens shouldn't be excluded from these festivities (that is, as long as they are fucking and drinking with other teens, as I was). Of course, I was raised in the Clinton era, so I knew the value of a condom thanks to Ken Starr.
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Laulau
07/20/09

@CurtCole: Oh my word, I thought I was the only one whose takeaway message from the Clinton ridiculousness was leave no DNA nor computer trail behind!!
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mindypoo
07/06/09

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So if I am a doctor and a member of the Klan I can refuse to treat Jews and people of color?
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Lymed
07/06/09

@mindypoo: No, because you would be violating anti-discrimination laws.
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lalaland13
07/06/09

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Gawd, why do you women have to keep being such whores? If you weren't, then these fine Christian doctors and pharmacists wouldn't have to put you in your place.
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babyruthless
07/06/09

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Here's my beef: I think that as an owner of a business, you should be able to decide what to sell. If, as the owner of Rite Aid or Local Pharmacy or whatever, if you don't want to sell Plan B, you shouldn't have to carry it. It could be a money sink, you could have moral problems, whatever. I am a Free Market Capitalist (tm) and think that you should be able to make business decisions.

However, I DO NOT think that individual pharmacist should be able to invoke conscience justifications (unless they happen to own the joint). Your boss tells you to do a job, and you either do it or quit. The end. Your job should not be safe because you have this conscience issue.

Permit me an analogy: you are a vegetarian. You get a job at a steakhouse and promptly refuse to serve anyone who orders a slab o' meat, because it's against your conscience to do so. You are fired. That's ok.

But you know what you can do? You can open a vegan steakhouse that serves nothing but tofu and tempeh, and you can lecture and cajole any unwitting carnivore who stumbles into your cafe.

That's my $0.02
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Laulau
07/06/09

@babyruthless: Generally I would and do agree with you. But what if everybody bailed ship for vegan steakhouses, which are less controversial? I don't think people should be forced to provide services with which they disagree, but it's also important that women have access to necessary services. (And Plan B is not an abortion, deal, haters.) I think this is a really complicated question.
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Lymed
07/06/09

@babyruthless: If you don't believe in certain drugs, maybe you shouldn't open a pharmacy....there are a lot of other stores you can open that don't sell birth control or Plan B (and it is not just Plan B, it is also birth control that some pharmacists don't fill)
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Cerridwen
07/06/09

@Lymed: This is an excellent point. It takes away no one's choice to say that they should have to provide the full range of services and/or medical drugs if they were to open a pharmacy or become a pharmacist. They can do something else or own a different kind of business.
@babyruthless: If you truly believe in so-called Free Market Capitalism, then you must agree that these business-owners and pharmacists have full autonomy to choose other professions and livelihoods. Women who are facing the possibility of an unplanned pregnancy and need access to medical services and/or drugs who are denied that access DO find their choices limited or even eliminated, especially for those women who cannot easily access other service-providers (such as those who live in very small towns or rural areas).
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Lymed
07/06/09

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There are many doctors who refuse to treat Lyme disease patients and there are many doctors who refuse to treat patients with chronic pain. It isn't limited to reproductive choices.
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Laulau
07/06/09

@Lymed: Why would you refuse to treat someone with Lyme disease? (Genuine curiosity, over here.)
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Lymed
07/06/09

@Laulau: For the long story? See the movie Under Our Skin www.underourskin.org.

There is a rift in the medical community about Lyme disease. A number of research doctors who have patents related to the organism itself and to a failed vaccine, claim that Lyme can never become a chronic infection. Doctors show practice is primarily Lyme patients sometimes are taken before the medical review board, and the complaints are often brought by the insurance companies who are not happy with the high cost of treatment - for a person with serious neurological Lyme, the treatment is often IV antibiotics which can cost tens of thousands of dollars.
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Lymed
07/06/09

@Lymed: Here is a link to the film that works: [www.underourskin.com]

And here are some excerpts about the controversy:

+ Watch video

+ Watch video

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schmerd
07/06/09

@Lymed: Yeah but I think it's fair to say that one can presume that their reasons for nottreating Lyme disease or chronic pain are pragmatic and based on science and connected to whether this is the most appropriate treatment for the patient, which is a completely different thing from refusing to offer BC or emergency BC because of moral, rather than pragmatic considerations. See the story in another comment thread on this post about the commenter who had a doctor refuse to give her an IUD not for reasons to do with counter-indications based on the patients age or whatever, but because the doctor basically thinks it's like abortion.
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Lymed
07/06/09

@schmerd: Actually, no it isn't always connected to the most appropriate treatment for the patient. Lyme treatment is often decided on the doctor's own monetary interests. And many doctors refuse to treat chronic pain patients because they don't believe in giving narcotic pain meds even to people who need it. I'm not belittling the issue of this post, I'm trying to educate that this is an issue that is broader than many people think.
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bibomaco
07/06/09

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Does anyone know if the concept of "Provider conscience" for pharmacists exist in Canada? This concept is mind-boggling to me, and I had never heard of it till now.
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clevernamehere
07/06/09

@bibomaco: One big thing to keep in mind is the the US does not fund healthcare or the training of healthcare professionals the way most other developed nations do.

If you pay to train a gynecologist and then pay him out of taxpayer funds, it is a lot easier to mandate that gynecologist provide specific services. But when people paid for their own education and are not paid by the government, its a lot harder to mandate that they do anything.
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