It is hard to expect much of Outnumbered. It is also hard to expect much of Fox News, the channel on which Outnumbered airs. And yet a head shake still occurs when one hears an opinion like the one Stacey Dash shared during Friday's episode, when she stated that college women who are raped are "bad girls" who "go out and play and get hurt" and then blame "the alcohol."

As Media Matters points out, Outnumbered got their hands on two news stories today and went as hard as frat boy with a keg and funnel: First, that national sorority chapters have asked sorority sisters at the University of Virginia to avoid fraternity houses this weekend, and second, Dartmouth College's decision to ban hard alcohol on campus. Neither of these ideas are particularly good ones, but they do not deserve the treatment they got from Dash, or from fellow nothingburger Andrea Tantaros.

To start, Dash said she thought suggesting to the "good" sorority sisters that they avoid frat parties was "a good thing for the girls...to be told to stay home, be safe." (She had to be corrected for calling them girls and not women.):

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The other bad girls–bad women–are the ones who like to be naughty, might go out and play and get hurt and then, you know...But the other thing about this is that it then blames the alcohol instead of the person who over-drinks. So it's like, the same thing with guns. Guns don't kill people; people kill people. Alcohol doesn't get you drunk; you get yourself drunk.

Let's just break that logic down.

Guns don't kill people; people kill people. True.

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Alcohol doesn't get you drunk; you get yourself drunk. True.

Rape victims aren't raped; they rape themselves/get themselves raped. [?????Incredulity mixed with frustration that we are still having this conversation]

Tantaros wasn't as caught up as Stacey in this oh-so-original brand of victim-blaming of these naughty, naughty girls. She just wants the rules to be clear. Wouldn't we all! But perhaps not for quite the reasons she does.

I would just like someone to tell me the rules. Are women strong enough to take care of themselves, or are they not strong enough to take care of themselves? Because we're getting so many mixed messages. And I do feel for some of these fraternity guys because you look at UVA, none of them have been convicted of anything. So I think a lot of boys are feeling like the minute they step foot on college – let me finish, they step foot on college and they are immediately considered to be guilty. I mean girls are given rape whistles and boys aren't allowed at frat parties – either women can handle liquor and make responsible choices or they can't. And they're a bunch of babies who need to be kept away from liquor and boys.

"Either women can handle liquor and make responsible choices or they can't." There are plenty of mixed messages out there, but these women aren't helping.