transgender - Jezebel

posts about #transgender more →
A (Chat) Room Of One's Own For India's "Third Sex"
The Powder And The Glory
Like A Prayer
Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
William And Mary Elects First Transgender Homecoming Queen
House Passes Sexual Orientation Update To Hate Crimes Bill
Where Should Jails House A Transsexual Prisoner?
Indian City To Host Transgender Beauty Pageant
Pride Around The World
Capulet Balcony Cleared For Modern Weddings • Iranian Candidate Voices Support For Women's Rights

Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.

Dsmvwl Admin Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×

jenrobe
11/11/09

In reply to The Powder And The Glory
I'm so glad you're running these photos. Waria occupy a strange place in society. They're accepted as entertainers and, in Bugis culture, as priests of a sort, but rarely as people. I'm also glad to see stories that don't portray Indonesia as home to terrorists and Islamic fundamentalists! #seninkami
Reply

jenrobe was starred jenrobe was unstarred

Meglantine
11/11/09

In reply to The Powder And The Glory
I was trying to figure what was bothering me more: the awkward lighting on her face or that weird prosthetic nose about to go on it. Then two and two came smashing together in my head and I realized 1. that's not lighting because 2. that's not a prosthetic nose.
Rock on, Novi. I promise to catch up eventually. #seninkami
Reply

Meglantine was starred Meglantine was unstarred

Kivrin
11/10/09

In reply to Like A Prayer
Man, I really don't understand religiosity*, but I am fascinated by the nature/nurture aspects of it. I am one of those people who just does not need religion/faith in my life, period. Never have, despite my parents' attempts to instill it in me. So obviously "nurture" wasn't enough to make me religious—some kind of "nature" had to be at work in me. Then you have these transgender Muslims, who are excluded from traditional mosques—the fact that they even want to practice this religion anymore is beyond me (but fascinating).

*I mean religiosity in the sociological sense, i.e., the quality of being religious—not with any negative connotations around excessive/affected piety or whatever.
Reply

Edited by Kivrin at 11/10/09 5:21 PM Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

Miss. Money-Sterling
11/10/09

I was in Indonesia for about six months at one point, and one of the things that struck me was just how difficult it was for anyone to even consider operating outside of traditional family roles... I was in my 20's and the whole time I was there I couldn't make the family I was living with understand what I did if I didn't live with my parents and wasn't already married. It's was like people who didn't marry and start traditional families didn't even exist, there was no real way to even talk about it... there were families and then there were sex workers, and not much in between. Same goes for participation in religion... for most people it's something that happens all day, every day. Granted, I was living in an agricultural village, and Jogyakarta is pretty progressive as far as cities in Indonesia go, but it makes me happy to see spaces opening up for people like the waria. It can be hard to celebrate small victories when the greater issues are so large (and complicated), but this makes me happy. #seninkamis
Reply

Kivrin promoted this comment

Kivrin
11/10/09

@Miss. Money-Sterling: That's really interesting—I love getting a glimpse into other cultures like this. Thank you for sharing! #seninkamis
Reply

Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

JerkoftheMonth
11/03/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
Haha, it does not really surprise me that Germans don't like 30 Rock. Having seen some weird (really really weird!) shit on their television, it seems like their comedy is when they really let loose from their rather reserved demeanor (think slapstick, but... weirder). The understated and ironic humour of 30 Rock isn't manic enough, I don't think. #teens
Reply

JerkoftheMonth was starred JerkoftheMonth was unstarred

bookling
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
Ugh, that first story reminds me of when I was in high school and during Christmas break a bunch of my friends decided to have a huge party with 20+ people in a motel room, complete with alcohol and pot. They all got busted and arrested, but when we got back from break, the school had gotten wind of the incident and suspended all the kids involved and expelled a few. They were all stupid and deserved getting caught by the cops, but the school intervening was bullshit, and the kids whose parents could afford to lawyer up got off significantly easier. #teens
Reply

bookling was starred bookling was unstarred

cirocco
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
But Kelly Brownell from Yale University says, "by their logic, you can spray vitamins on a pile of leaves, and it will boost immunity."

I like how Brownell makes it sound as though no one in their right mind would ever eat a pile of leaves! "Leaves! That's not food! ...Wait, what? Sal... ad? Salad? Never heard of it. You mean like an egg-salad sandwich? That's not a pile of leaves, that's diced egg and mayo and bread. Get out of here with your crazy talk. Jeez louise. 'Salad.'" #teens
Reply

cirocco was starred cirocco was unstarred

saralegal21
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
Dear Harvard: If you want to learn about the plight of urban life, maybe you should roll down here to Baltimore and see it in person instead of watching TV in a classroom. It's a pretty accurate show, but nothing on TV compares to seeing it live. #teens
Reply

JerkoftheMonth promoted this comment saralegal21 was starred saralegal21 was unstarred

JerkoftheMonth
11/03/09

@saralegal21: Yeah, but also, analysing televisions shows helps not to understand the experience of urban life, but to understand better how it is represented, and this (The Wire) representation may be more accurate and complex than traditional urban settings on television and in film. #teens
Reply

JerkoftheMonth was starred JerkoftheMonth was unstarred

saralegal21
11/03/09

@JerkoftheMonth: It is a fairly accurate representation, to the point where I had to spread my Wire viewing out well past the run on HBO because it is hard to see something every day at work and then roll home and watch it on your television. But without having a basis of comparison, how does one know how accurate it really is? I'm guessing that most of the people who take this class aren't anyone who have experienced that kind of urban setting up close. But they will smugly think they understand the plight of inner city dwellers because they watched a TV show and took an Ivy League class about it. #teens
Reply

saralegal21 was starred saralegal21 was unstarred

mbot says Spock yeah!
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
The Wire is a totally legit subject for a seminar-long course. And the more people who see the show-- especially young people with all the advantages of Harvard at their disposal-- the better our country will be. #teens
Reply

sandie75
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
I think the school is completely within their rights to enforce their "code of conduct" policy. These are not regular students, in which case this public school would not have anything to say about their conduct. When sign up for sports or band or whatever you agree to be a representative of your school and there is always a "code a conduct" policy. They and their parents signed this and should have expected this consequence.

That said, I think that barring the girls from sports, an activity which could do a lot to correct the obvious self-esteem issue they have, is non-productive. But I understand the school offered a plan by which they could continue in their sports if they would agree to 3 counseling sessions and apologize to the athletic board for breaking the conduct code. The girls and/or their parents refused and that's the part I really don't understand.

If I found my daughter did something like this, I would have her in counseling so fast her head would spin, and I would absolutely be trying to work with the positive authority figures in her life, like her teachers and coaches, to minimize both her embarassment and increase her self-esteem. The last thing I would do is allow her to be removed from a positive healthy activity and file a law suit that not only brings unnecessary attention to these inappropriate pictures, but also tries to argue that a 15 year old girl making quasi-porn with her friends is harmless 'self-expression'. #teens
Reply

Her Grace promoted this comment sandie75 was starred sandie75 was unstarred

sportz.star
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
Dear Public School,

While the law may, in some instances, give you power beyond your four walls, barring kids from positive, regulated activities for negative, unregulated mistakes is the sort of thing you wouldn't expect from an entity that's supposed to be looking out for kids' welfare.

Very truly yours,
sportz.star #teens
Reply

sportz.star was starred sportz.star was unstarred

Never_Nude
11/02/09

@sportz.star: As an attorney who has had more than one brush with school law: amen. The biggest problem with (some) schools is the failure to recognize the constitutional rights of their students. A famous case said, and I'm paraphrasing, a student's rights don't stop at the schoolhouse door. Secondly, schools tend to apply their own policies inconsistently and capriciously. "But that's how we've always done it!" is a favorite refrain. I think kids' welfare may be last on their list of concerns. Of course, there are also schools who don't do this, but they are the stuff myths are made of. #teens
Reply

Never_Nude was starred Never_Nude was unstarred

InABook
11/02/09

@Never_Nude: I love me some Tinker v. Des Moines. #teens
Reply

Never_Nude promoted this comment InABook was starred InABook was unstarred

Never_Nude
11/03/09

@InABook: Ah yes! I can never, ever remember case names. My husband? Like a freaking Westlaw search engine. He even remembers that case from contracts about foreseeability... Hadley v. Baxendale! Yeah, I had to go ask him. *shame* #teens
Reply

Never_Nude was starred Never_Nude was unstarred

denna
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
Sigh, and I thought the class I'm taking next semester on Gender and Buffy the Vampire Slayer was awesome. Way to be a one-upper, Harvard. #teens
Reply

denna was starred denna was unstarred

midwesternmom
11/02/09

@denna: I'm taking Contemporary Feminism and Rock of Love. #teens
Reply

midwesternmom was starred midwesternmom was unstarred

emdy
11/02/09

@denna: I got no pop culture, but I got a class called Magic & Witchcraft [& Modernity]. #teens
Reply

emdy was starred emdy was unstarred

evility
11/02/09

@emdy: I've got a degree in popular culture, and about 4 months left of unemployment. Stay away! Stay away from the fun classes! #teens
Reply

JerkoftheMonth promoted this comment evility was starred evility was unstarred

JerkoftheMonth
11/03/09

@evility: I have a degree in popular literature! I also have no job, but that's because I'm a grad student. #teens
Reply

JerkoftheMonth was starred JerkoftheMonth was unstarred

BuffySummers
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
I'm kind of inclined to agree with the girls that this isn't really the school's jurisdiction. It is, however, a huge fail on the part of their parents. The girls are sophomores in high school!

Parents of teenagers: How closely do you monitor your sons'/daughters' facebook and myspace pages? I'm all for respecting privacy (as in, not reading your kid's journal or fishing notes from her friends out of her trash) but this just seems like a safety issure more than anything else. #teens
Reply

Never_Nude promoted this comment BuffySummers was starred BuffySummers was unstarred

Never_Nude
11/02/09

@BuffySummers: As the mom of a teenage girl, now a graduate, let me just say that these sneaky-ass girls will do what they will do. I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek, but you get the idea. If a kid wants to go to parties and get wasted and flash tittays and have her photo taken, nothing short of armed detention will stop her. And you can be the best parent in the world and still have an out-of-control teen. Just the way it goes. #teens
Reply

Never_Nude was starred Never_Nude was unstarred

ihateyourescalade
11/02/09

@Never_Nude: I am sure you are a good mom, but I disagree that parents can't control an out-of-control teen. It's called not letting her go to parties, cancelling her cell phone, cutting off her internet access and impounding her car. Maybe that won't stop her from flashing her t's completely, but it's a damn good start. #teens
Reply

ihateyourescalade was starred

ChessieCat
11/02/09

@ihateyourescalade: Short of locking the child up (literally), how do you suggest preventing a teen from, say, attending a party? I mean, you can threaten grounding, take away the car, but still... I think if a tenn is hell-bent on going somewhere or doing something, they'll find a way. #teens
Reply

ihateyourescalade promoted this comment ChessieCat was starred ChessieCat was unstarred

ihateyourescalade
11/02/09

@ChessieCat: @w33kdays: I never snuck out. I probably lied to my parents, but not over anything particularly serious. I respected my parents, understood why they made the rules they made, felt they treated me fairly and expected a lot out of me, and knew I would disappoint them if I did something as vastly stupid as take photos of myself with phallic lollipops and post them on the Internet.

My parents did not lock me up. They did not beat me, threaten me or tie me to the radiator. They taught me to respect myself and behave appropriately. That's how you "control" a teenager.

I'm sorry if this sounds preachy. I don't mean it to be. It's just what happened to me. #teens
Reply

ihateyourescalade was starred

wealhtheow
11/02/09

@ihateyourescalade: I actually don't see anything inappropriate with licking penis-pops.

Teens have sexual urges just like the rest of us. I think masturbation should be encouraged, and additionally, the "forbidden fruit" stigma/lure taken away from sex itself. #teens
Reply

ihateyourescalade promoted this comment wealhtheow was starred wealhtheow was unstarred

ihateyourescalade
11/03/09

@wealhtheow: If you read my comment again you will see that I didn't say penis-pops were inappropriate. I said photographing yourself performing blowjobs on them and posting those photos on the internet was stupid. That teens have sexual urges is not in question. #teens
Reply

ihateyourescalade was starred

wealhtheow
11/03/09

@ihateyourescalade: You also called them "out of control". Posting pictures of oneself on the internet is totally normal behavior, not out of control at all. It's not a great idea, but pretty much everybody does it, to varying degrees of TMI. Everytime you talk about these teens, you're sarcastic and mean, and I really don't understand why. They didn't hurt anyone. They didn't shame anyone. They did nothing wrong. They posted pictures of themselves on the internet. Not illegal, not morally wrong, and if our culturee wasn't so creepy, not stupid. #teens
Reply

wealhtheow was starred wealhtheow was unstarred

TellAllYourFriends
11/03/09

@ihateyourescalade: AGREED! That's how my parents raised me, and I turned out just peachy. I remember the occational grounding in HS, and would have friends tell me "why don't you just leave?" I never did, because I respected my parents, and knew if I did "just leave" my life would be 50 times worse when I returned.

On a similar out-of-control teenager note, has anyone seen this "Worlds Strictest Parent's" show on MTV? I had the joy of catching it last night. As far as I could see, it was more like "Responsible Parenting." God forbid you punish a kid for talking back or acting disrespectful and out-of-line! Sooo strict. *eye roll* #teens
Reply

ihateyourescalade promoted this comment TellAllYourFriends was starred

ihateyourescalade
11/03/09

@wealhtheow: Never_Nude, to whom I was replying, said, "...you can be the best parent in the world and still have an out-of-control teen." She was talking about teens in general. I was referring to her comment. Sheesh. Please actually read my comments before chastizing me.
Reply

Edited by ihateyourescalade at 11/03/09 2:09 PM ihateyourescalade was starred

ihateyourescalade
11/03/09

@TellAllYourFriends: Hearted. #teens
Reply

ihateyourescalade was starred

bibomaco
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
Students can do whatever they feel like doing during their spare time and outside school property. Since when can schools micromanage everyone's life? I just don't understand how and why the school felt compelled to get involved.
Reply

yvanehtnioj promoted this comment Edited by bibomaco at 11/02/09 5:59 PM bibomaco was starred bibomaco was unstarred

yvanehtnioj
11/02/09

@bibomaco: A lot of student athletes (not just at religious schools) have to sign some kind of generalized "good behavior" pledge to get on the team. My assumption is that the school is relying on some variant of those pledges to punish the girls. Those pledges have to go, IMO. #teens
Reply

yvanehtnioj was starred yvanehtnioj was unstarred

kctomorrow
11/02/09

@bibomaco: lots of, specifically private, schools have codes of conducts they expect students to follow inside and outside of school. Some will have students sign "contracts" others just make the code of conduct available for students to read. Sometimes it seems like bullshit, sometimes it seems valid. (to me anyways) #teens
Reply

Meglantine promoted this comment kctomorrow was starred kctomorrow was unstarred

bibomaco
11/02/09

@yvanehtnioj: I hereby pledge to let kids screw up on their own time, and in the event that they do unseemly things, I will let their parents intervene. I also acknowledge that I am not the moral compass of the world.

Bibs #teens
Reply

bibomaco was starred bibomaco was unstarred

yvanehtnioj
11/02/09

@bibomaco: For serious. #teens
Reply

yvanehtnioj was starred yvanehtnioj was unstarred

JerkoftheMonth
11/03/09

@kctomorrow: I went to highschool in Germany, where you can drink from age 16, and when our soccer team played in the American dept of defense league we had to sign conduct form saying that we wouldn't drink while participating in the league, even thought it was legal. It didn't really work, though. #teens
Reply

JerkoftheMonth was starred JerkoftheMonth was unstarred

Cesybabe or Nirvanah Crane
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
Also! Man sues Axe of not having the promised 'Axe effect' and getting him no girls despite 7 years of use.

[www.watoday.com.au] #teens
Reply

EKane
11/02/09

In reply to Teens Sue Over Fallout From Sexy Pics • Harvard To Offer Class On The Wire
How did I know William J. Wilson would be the one teaching a class on The Wire? He means well... #teens
Reply

EKane was starred EKane was unstarred

Lymed
11/02/09

@EKane: I actually learned a tremendous amount from his class on race and the urban ghetto. Yes, we read his books. But we also read other books with other theories and when we left the classroom, we could take it all in and come to our own conclusions. #teens
Reply

Lymed was starred Lymed was unstarred

EKane
11/02/09

@Lymed: I don't doubt he's an awesome professor. I'm taking a race and public policy class with another prominent black sociologist and he's choc full of sociology related anecdotes- especially about Wilson. I just haven't formed a concrete opinion about ol' WJW. I wish he was still in Chicago though... *sigh* #teens
Reply

EKane was starred EKane was unstarred

Earlier discussions Other discussions Show all discussions Show featured discussions only Start a new discussion

SUBSCRIBE TO Jezebel

Login

Reset Password

Register

Submit Your Comment