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Jack_Burton
08/25/09

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I'd like to see this study - I wonder how they're determining the "overestimation" - and how much of this aggression is just posturing?
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lisas
08/25/09

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The original article is totally revolting. What a gross use of a picture (not the Jezebel Pitt picture, the original article). Racist much?
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Oleander
08/25/09

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Maybe I am the odd one out here, but I totally understand the impulse for violent confrontation. I don't condone it most of the time, but I understand it, and sometimes feel an overwhelming desire to instigate a fight. I never have, and it would be absolute suicide- I am 5'7, 120lbs, never been in a real fight in my life.

Yes, drunken bar fights are usually idiotic. So why do I feel such pangs of jealousy? Am I the only one?

By the way, the ones I usually feel like punching are the disgusting creeps who say obnoxious, offensive things or invade my personal space in order to hit on me.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
08/25/09

@Oleander: You can always spill your drink on them. Bloody Mary on a white shirt works nicely, a Cosmo on a yellow or blue one.
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JerseyGrrrl
08/25/09

@Oleander: Maybe a kickboxing class or a Percocet?
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Sodypop
08/25/09

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When I read this, my first thought was about those idiots that bring guns and rifles to the health care town hall meetings. What exactly are they thinking? Here is my gun and will shoot anyone that threatens my "safety".
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
08/25/09

@Sodypop: That's exactly what they're thinking.

(Also "that threatens my right to carry a gun.")

I didn't say it had to make sense.
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Feminist Whore
08/25/09

@Sodypop: I was just talking about this very stuff yesterday.... these types are Authoritarian Followers... they respect authority, that's their psychological whatsits, and they go into every situation expecting authority to be established - It doesn't matter really WHO wins the authority, it's simply that there must be authority. A world without authority, and authority followers is a world of scary chaos to these types.

The worst case scenario for these people would be that NO authority is established.
without a flailing of fists and a loser left broken*, authoritarian followers can't figure out who won and then they can't figure out who they are supposed to respect...

That's why they go so apeshit when the liberals are in charge, because all of a sudden the authority doesn't seem so authoritative - giving people rights! and government paid-for doctors appointments! and whatnot - that's not what their idea of authority is.

Really, for their own good, these right wingers and nut jobs who get outta hand need to be slapped down hard by 'the man'. They crave it. They need it. God, how I'd like to give it to them.

*also why they don't respect women.
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MilointheMeadow
08/25/09

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But that one scene in Public Enemies where Johnny Depp punches a guy at the coat check because he's interrupting their conversation? HOT.
Also, Fight Club Ed Norton makes me weak in the knees.

In real life, it would probably just freak me out, though.
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msAnthrope
08/25/09

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some women do get off on this though. my husband told me about this woman he used to date. they left some restaurant and some local guys began giving them grief. so my husband got all in their face which i guess they didn't expect. blows were not exchanged, but it came close to that

anyway when my husband and his date got in the car, she started acting all turned on like that was the hottest thing she'd ever seen. maybe she interpreted it as protecting her?
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Aesop's Foibles. YES.
08/25/09

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What was the average age of the men in the study? I wonder because I'd think that the obvious age group operating under these ideas would be the 18-25ish crowd. I like to think that once a man has reached an age where having dudebro nights at bars is no longer an enticing hobby, his penchant for violence-alcohol fueled or otherwise-would wane. Unless of course, said man is violent by nature, in which case his age would have little bearing on his maturity. I would think, too, that a man who feels bad about himself for not being aggressive enough probably has some other issues going on.

Boy am I glad Mr. Foibles is not this type. ExFoibles was like this, getting into fights when we were out at the bars and so forth. It was so fucking embarassing, not to mention disturbing, seeing your sweet gentleman getting all up in some guy's face and throwing his fists around. Yikes. He was otherwise a great guy, but I really dodged the proverbial bullet there. Anybody who feels like his genitals are an excuse for violent behavior is not the type I want around.
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Flackette Goes Retro
08/25/09

@now it's just Aesop's Heatstroke.: I have an ex who was all about getting into stupid fights, punching dudes who pissed him off, etc. He thought it was awesome. I thought it was embarrassing, not to mention evidence of an overall violent disposition. He turned out to be a douchey asshat though, so good riddance.
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cuteasabutton
08/25/09

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It ain't just the boys!
[www.news.com.au]
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msAnthrope
08/25/09

@cuteasabutton:

i know~~ i mean how many youTube videos have we watched on jezebel of girls recording themselves kicking the shit out of some other girl?
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BiteMeMitchell!
08/25/09

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There are few things in the world that impress me more, as a woman, than a man who just walks away from any aggro that might be kicking off. I hate to see violence erupt, especially over some completely childish bullshit. I love a man who can just rise above it.
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KathrynwithaY loves Joan Collins
08/25/09

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Nothing is sexier than Shout Wiping blood off your clothes after some dbags wail on each other at the bar.

Spilled Pabst on your Affliction shirt and now you wanna fight about it? For shame!
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BiteMeMitchell!
08/25/09

@KathrynwithaY loves Joan Collins: Yep, until recently I was working in a pretty dive-y bar at weekends, and there were a few fights over some nonsense. Inevitably us poor barmaids would get caught in the crossfire and have drinks spilled on us etc. One colleague got an elbow to the face, another had a pint glass chucked at her head. Luckily these scraps tended to fizzle out before becoming really nasty, but it can be pretty scary...
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OneTwoPunch
08/25/09

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Nothing ruins a night faster than a drunken douchebag who has no idea how to fight, but just wants to cause drama because of their fucked up bullshit.

Now, a professional fighter? Poetry in motion. And that IS a turn-on. Well, to a female fighter like me;)

HUGE difference between a random drunken brawl and a controlled athlete.
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hortense
08/25/09

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I watched a backyard bbq game of volleyball turn into Lord of the Flies this weekend, so I buy this.

Volleyball, you guys.
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bluebears
08/25/09

@hortense: I'm not surprised. Haven't you seen Top Gun? Volleyball is INTENSE.
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BabyJane
08/25/09

@hortense: Hortense, The first rule of volleyball is you don't talk about volleyball.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
08/25/09

@hortense: It could have been worse. It could have been rugby in a country where they don't know how to really play it.
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Agumen
08/25/09

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I think this is a biological thing as opposed to a social thing. As a man, when you get in a fight, the adrenaline leaves you feeling pumped, and on top of the world. So you obviously feel cooler and more attractive. Because you're seeing things from your own point of view as opposed to those people cringing around you.

This might be a terrible comparison, but it's like an anorexic person thinking they're gorgeous. It's their perspective that's messed up due to the disease. With fighting, testosterone and adrenaline mix up that perspective.

I never ever fight, btw. Five or six times in high school, that was it. But it is a hell of a high, it feels great, even the bruises can feel good. This is why guys love to play rugby and football. And even when I broke one guy's nose one time (really didn't mean to) I was always friends with the guys again within a couple of hours. It just blows over.
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Snowbunny
08/25/09

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Screaming and trying to separate two morons while wearing your nice party clothes and high heels is such a turn on, though! I love the fact that I could get hurt at any moment (isn't getting hurt so much fun!), the fact that we then have to leave where ever you are, and the massive public embarrassment! I love being ashamed of men, I'm so attracted to that "I wish I could disappear" feeling.
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cwisto moweina has got yer goat
08/25/09

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Assertiveness, confidence, and the ability to effectively deal with conflict are attractive, in any gender.

Aggressiveness, especially physical aggression, is scary.
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