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Blueberry26
08/28/09

In reply to FDA Panel To Make Recommendations On Two HPV Vaccines
I worry that with this vaccine it will lead to the need for regular pap smears getting even less attention than it already does. By getting a pap smear every year, you also get in for a pelvic exam (they're usually combined) so you can watch for any of the other myriad diseases and problems of the vaginal region. I wish there could be even just one commercial for this for every 3 for Gardasil. While having a vaccine is great, it's not a miracle shot. And it only prevents *four* of the over 100 different viruses that cause HPV. So yay, but in this discussion we cannot forget these other really important issues.

Ladies, get regular pap smears and pelvic exams!
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HoseaCretan
08/28/09

In reply to FDA Panel To Make Recommendations On Two HPV Vaccines
I am going through painful procedures for precancerous cells due to HPV, and let me tell you, if I or my partner had been able to have been vaccinated, it's possible I would be saving pain and heartache. It's a women's issue that does not affect women only.
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smileonadog
08/28/09

@HoseaCretan: I hear you. The level of stress this has caused in my life since I found out I had it is immense. My gyno is very cool, very reassuring, but still, it sucks. I dread each and every test and worry a lot. If this vaccine can save lives and spare women from dealing with this, why wouldn't everyone get vaccinnated.
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Pantra
08/28/09

In reply to FDA Panel To Make Recommendations On Two HPV Vaccines
My gynecologist was very anti-vaccine for boys "because there's no point" and women over the age of 30 "because after 30, almost everyone's monogamous anyhow." It was such a huge logic fail, from so many angles, than I was speechless.

Seriously, if HPV was known for giving straight men CANCER in their privates, the national dialogue on vaccines would be loud, stringent and unceasing. It's like the "common cold of STDs" meme has convinced people that HPV is no big deal. But I'm pretty sure cervical cancer is not a day at the beach.
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colormeroutine
08/28/09

@Pantra: I would have switched doctors so fast that my paper gown would have turned to ash
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likepenguins
08/28/09

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Absolutely it should be approved. I was not likely to get mumps, but I got a vaccination for it, because I could have been a carrier and given it to someone else. I did work with TB patients, and never contracted it, but I still had to get tested and revaccinated, in case I was carrying it and gave it to someone else.

Sometimes I with the acronym STD had never been popularized. Too much focus on the "sexually-transmitted" part, and not enough focus on the big honking DISEASE part.
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charliekohler
08/28/09

@likepenguins: Actually, they changed the name. They're STIs- because they're infections, not disesases.
I know. Weird. But true.
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bangers
08/28/09

@charliekohler: also because "disease" sounds far more damning than "infection" -the name change ideally was supposed to reduce stigma
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colormeroutine
08/28/09

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Absolutely gardasil needs to be given to boys. Haven't they been testing men for HPV in other countries for years? I never understood why we don't routinely. Sure, its unlikely ever to cause any problems for them, but that doesn't help the women they are (usually unknowingly) spreading it around to
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Zombies make the heart grow fonder
08/28/09

@colormeroutine: I was under the impression that there was no way to test for HPV in men.[www.cdc.gov]
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colormeroutine
08/28/09

@Zombies make the heart grow fonder: There are tests, they just aren't FDA approved yet. And aren't likely to become so very quickly because since it usually doesn't affect the men directly, testing them isn't seen as necessary or worth putting money into
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boobookitteh
08/28/09

@colormeroutine: It affects men who have sex with men. But I don't think that would make an effective argument somehow.
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BeckySharper
08/28/09

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I am 100% for Gardasil being given to boys. They get HPV too, and although it's much less likely to cause health problems for them, the whole purpose of immunization is to protect EVERYONE by create herd immunity.
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wordinedgewise
08/28/09

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I'm just waiting for the moms of some of the boys to start saying "Oh I'm not going to get Johnny vaccinated, he's only 12 but I'm sure he'll never sleep with any of those dirty sluts."

Of COURSE we need to give it to boys. Put it in their goddamn breakfast cereal.
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