I went to an all-girls uniform school, and while most girls opted to wear the skirt, we were allowed a lot of options (comparatively), like khaki pants. Sure, they were fug and I never wore them (itchy polyester), but lots of girls did, and I appreciated the fact that we weren't only allowed to wear skirts and skorts. #dresscodes
All this with school pictures always makes me wonder what my school would have said if I'd asked to wear the tuxedo for my senior portrait. I could have definitely worn one to prom without anyone saying anything. Our administrators selectively enforced rules (skinny girls could get away with wearing tank tops but heavier girls like me would get yelled at and told to put on our sweaters or go home whereas since I generally kept my nose clean, the assistant principal told me exactly what class I wasn't allowed to knit in anymore when someone's mother complained) and I strongly suspect I could have worn the tuxedo shirt, but a boy asking for the drape would have been in trouble. #dresscodes
I'm a disappointed at this statement from Morehouse College, if not shocked. There are some interesting dynamics going on in Atlanta right now on several fronts. Atlanta is divided on racial lines, as indicated by our current race for mayor. We also have large populations of athletes, soldiers and conservatives (fields not known IN GENERAL for openness towards those of alternate sexual preferences) as well as a large gay population. People seem to mix well on the surface, but there is an underlying tension that is threatening to come to a head when nobody is looking. #dresscodes
"No wearing of clothing associated with women's garb (dresses, tops, tunics, purses, pumps, etc.) on the Morehouse campus or at college-sponsored events."..."The image of a strong black man needs to be upheld."
I think someone who wears clothes that may not conform to society's gender norms because he feels said clothes represent him the best, despite outside pressure and hostility is pretty damn strong in my opinion. #dresscodes
"The image of a strong black man needs to be upheld." Yeah, better worry about that image. That's part of the reason why the HIV epidemic is so bad among young black men. Can't be facing up to the fact that you're gay, gotta uphold that image of a strong black man.
An administration might argue that cross-dressing was, by its nature, distracting. I'd say, maybe for the first week. But then you get used to it.
Yup. But here's the thing I've never, ever understood as an adult (though as a child I would have protested it to the death): Why aren't uniforms just common practice? Polo shirts, khaki pants for all I say. It's insane. Considering the amount of crazy I think being a parent entails, I would be advocating the hell out of a policy that would make my life easier (a morning without fighting over clothes)! But that said, it's also good for other reasons, like eliminating class issues and taking the equation of clothing out of education. #dresscodes
@Trulymadlyme: I agree, I would also have hated it as a kid but it makes so much sense to have them in schools (especially public ones). Give the kids basic options and some wiggle room for any religious reasons kids would need an adjustment (ie a girl in a khaki skirt if her religion dictates pants a no-no) and done! I know the underprivileged school i attended would have been helped by uniforms. #dresscodes
@RubyPenelope: It's just odd. As an adult, I don't see a reason why this isn't common place unless there is a secret cabal made up of Hollister, Abercrombie, American Eagle, and the GAP fueling money to school board elections. I mean. Seriously?! #dresscodes
@Trulymadlyme: I'm sure uniforms help obscure class issues, and make it harder for kids to be teased about their clothes, but there will always be ways for the rich to showcase their wealth--whether through accessories, cars, or just mentioning their pool.
The problem isn't that some kids have ratty shoes and get picked on--it's the people who are doing the picking. Teaching kids that bullying and teasing is wrong should be the priority--not making us all look the same. #dresscodes
@Trulymadlyme: Agreed. I had school uniforms growing up and it made things a LOT better. Of course, the rich kids always find a way to show that they're rich, but at least you don't get constantly made fun of because you're not wearing genuine Abercrombie and are wearing the Walmart knock-offs instead. And as far as I can tell, I don't have any stunted creativity from not being able to express myself through the clothes I wore to school. #dresscodes
@Trulymadlyme: While I'm a total clotheshorse and love being able to dress however I want now, I loved having uniforms in school just as much-- it took me fifteen minutes to get ready for school, and it was awesome. #dresscodes
A kid at my daughter's school showed up yesterday dressed as a geisha, complete with yellowface makeup. While I think some of these bans may go over the top, I do believe there are some parents who don't have the sense to come in out of the rain and may occasionally need a gentle reminder of basic common sense. #halloweencostumes
I'm surprised kids are still allowed to dress up for school at all. Where I live, it's a practice long abandoned because it takes up too much time according to the schedules set up by No Child Left Behind. My mom's class has a little room-parents Halloween party and they do some Halloween arts and crafts leading up to the day, but other than that, no more Halloween in school. #halloweencostumes
Today I'm at my office dressed as the one thing that scares adults the most: a Tween girl. Hannah Montana shirt and all.
I remember masks being banned in elementary school, but not "scary costumes". Seriously, what the hell? Now kids who didn't go costume shopping until the last minute can't just cut two holes in a sheet and go as a ghost? Ridiculous. #halloweencostumes
Halloween was originally about scaring away demons and other baddies, yes? So the whole idea is to be scarier than the things that scare you.
To me, Halloween has always been about having fun with the things are a bit darker about life. Things that scare or horrify you...death, the undead, etc.
I think the quote about some people thinking it's "satanic" is telling...there has always been a superstitious element that objects to Halloween's pagan roots, even if they don't always know that's what they're doing.
Also, I don't know if anyone has noticed this but...childhood is scary sometimes. Kids should be allowed to explore that if they want to, especially in a such harmless way as a Halloween costume. To me, it's like people freaking out about their kids dyeing their hair pink or blue. Kids need outlets and ways to express themselves. Better than drugs or actually self-destructive behavior. #halloweencostumes
@tiredfairy: I think, though, that part of it - at least in elementary schools - is that older kids (5th-6th grade) were wearing costumes that went beyond obviously fake blood and zombies and scaring the crap out of younger kids (think Pre-K or K). My mom works at an elementary school and I've helped out there for various things. I can remember older kids coming as surprisingly realistic things like car accident victims or serial killers and going out of their way to seriously terrify the youngest kids in the hall. Part of that is a behavior issue, but I don't think there is a problem with these rules. I think the scary costume rule applies to issues like these, not classics like vampires, ghosts, etc. #halloweencostumes
@SparklyTempest: Kids that young were always in separate schools where I grew up, so they weren't around any older students. I can see some of it, masks make sense because then you can't tell who kids are...but I'm not sure this is being limited to just "realistically" gruesome.
But then, kids go trick or treating, yes? One would think they'd see that then, too. And it's important for kids to learn about what's real and what isn't.
It sounds like it's any scary or "non wholesome" costume. I just personally think that's ridiculous. And I think there's an odd, superstitiousness, underpinning this. Plus a lot of the weird sanitizing of everything. It's not the worst thing in the world for a kid to get scared, and if you prepare kids ahead of time, it should be fine. #halloweencostumes
@tiredfairy: I agree. I mean, who is it harming when a kid has neon hair? That kind of thing is impermanent. It'll go away soon enough. Frankly, most people just grow out of it and no longer desire to have purple liberty spikes after a certain time period.
I think that if we want to promote equality and tolerance, we should help break down stereotypes of "person with piercings = murderer", too. Besides, if you can't do it before you have to get a job, when can you do it? #halloweencostumes
@tiredfairy: True. I think, though, it is easier for parents to prevent young kids from the scariest of the scary when supervising trick-or-treating. At the schools I went to everyone intermingled at various points in the halls, the lunchroom, etc. (sometimes even with much older kids - I went to some schools that were pre-K through 8th or pre-K through 10th). I think parents do need to prepare kids to be scared, but I guess I can think of enough really scary stuff in the world they'll have to deal with without freaking them out on what should be a fun holiday for them.
I think the "non-wholesome" side of this is ridiculous too - my high school had all sorts of rules about what color you could dye your hair, piercings, etc. that were out of hand. That being said, I don't really have as much of a problem with the really scary stuff being restricted in elementary schools. It is a bit much in middle or high school, but I think about 3-year-old pre-K at some schools and think those kids may be a bit young for some things. #halloweencostumes
But I thought the whole point is to be scary and evil? Or is this just my Catholic education talking? Our principal dressed up as the Wicked Witch every Halloween... and once for Christmas, as a matter of fact.
I can't help feeling like we're so sanitized and removed from gore and superstition and darkness all the time, that it's nice to take time out to revel in it. #halloweencostumes
The rules should really be age appropriate. For instance, when I was in kindergarten I was so frightened by a kid dressed as a vampire on my bus, I refused to ride it home. The principal had to call my parents. But older kids....why not? #halloweencostumes
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I think someone who wears clothes that may not conform to society's gender norms because he feels said clothes represent him the best, despite outside pressure and hostility is pretty damn strong in my opinion. #dresscodes
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See "Prevention Challenges / Stigma": [www.cdc.gov] #dresscodes
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Yup. But here's the thing I've never, ever understood as an adult (though as a child I would have protested it to the death): Why aren't uniforms just common practice? Polo shirts, khaki pants for all I say. It's insane. Considering the amount of crazy I think being a parent entails, I would be advocating the hell out of a policy that would make my life easier (a morning without fighting over clothes)! But that said, it's also good for other reasons, like eliminating class issues and taking the equation of clothing out of education. #dresscodes
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The problem isn't that some kids have ratty shoes and get picked on--it's the people who are doing the picking. Teaching kids that bullying and teasing is wrong should be the priority--not making us all look the same. #dresscodes
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So no Lindsay Lohan costume then?
(I'M KIDDING. BAngieB's gonna take a hit out on me.) #halloweencostumes
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I remember masks being banned in elementary school, but not "scary costumes". Seriously, what the hell? Now kids who didn't go costume shopping until the last minute can't just cut two holes in a sheet and go as a ghost? Ridiculous. #halloweencostumes
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To me, Halloween has always been about having fun with the things are a bit darker about life. Things that scare or horrify you...death, the undead, etc.
I think the quote about some people thinking it's "satanic" is telling...there has always been a superstitious element that objects to Halloween's pagan roots, even if they don't always know that's what they're doing.
Also, I don't know if anyone has noticed this but...childhood is scary sometimes. Kids should be allowed to explore that if they want to, especially in a such harmless way as a Halloween costume. To me, it's like people freaking out about their kids dyeing their hair pink or blue. Kids need outlets and ways to express themselves. Better than drugs or actually self-destructive behavior. #halloweencostumes
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But then, kids go trick or treating, yes? One would think they'd see that then, too. And it's important for kids to learn about what's real and what isn't.
It sounds like it's any scary or "non wholesome" costume. I just personally think that's ridiculous. And I think there's an odd, superstitiousness, underpinning this. Plus a lot of the weird sanitizing of everything. It's not the worst thing in the world for a kid to get scared, and if you prepare kids ahead of time, it should be fine. #halloweencostumes
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I think that if we want to promote equality and tolerance, we should help break down stereotypes of "person with piercings = murderer", too. Besides, if you can't do it before you have to get a job, when can you do it? #halloweencostumes
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I think the "non-wholesome" side of this is ridiculous too - my high school had all sorts of rules about what color you could dye your hair, piercings, etc. that were out of hand. That being said, I don't really have as much of a problem with the really scary stuff being restricted in elementary schools. It is a bit much in middle or high school, but I think about 3-year-old pre-K at some schools and think those kids may be a bit young for some things. #halloweencostumes
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I can't help feeling like we're so sanitized and removed from gore and superstition and darkness all the time, that it's nice to take time out to revel in it. #halloweencostumes
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