On the hapa tip, I recently came across a book full of head shots of people of mixed race with their own responses to the question that hapa people are constantly asked; "what are you?" I thought it was really interesting and worth browsing if you happen to be in a book store, it's called "Part Asian, 100% Hapa."
@pele tiger: When I lived out west, I got asked that A LOT. "What are you?" I always wanted to reply "Human!" but never did. Multi-ethnics get it just as bad in the midwest as anyone. That's why I'm staying in Brooklyn. Diversity to the nth degree. And I love it. #antmblackface
@OneTwoPunch: I often get asked "what are you?" followed by a laundry list of countries and comments on my "exotic" looks. I usually respond "I'm American. I was born and raised in America." Of course, that never satisfies. For the record, I'm half Spanish, half American by way of England. People just seem to love questioning me about my ethnic background. #antmblackface
@the dodo, the cuckoo, and the nene: Yeah, I say "American", too, or, if pressed, get into the specifics: "Well, my last name is an old Acadian name via Nova Scotia through the original French Canadian settlers of North America and the founders of New Orleans, plus I'm also part classic New York Italian and Irish immigrant, as well as French Swiss, Dutch, English, and, maybe Native American."
It's a story I've come to enjoy, because it's so much to take in! And, actually, I love it—it shows how cool and open-minded my ancestors were because they married for love! Very romantic.
Anyone else notice that in # 1 she's wearing a kimono like thing as well as the "African" stuff? Interesting. That girl should get eliminated though, because the pose is weak and the picture boring.
As an inter-racial person who is often asked, "What are you?" because I look neither white nor Filipino (which I am) nor really Latina (which most people assume, here in AZ anyway) the idea of putting white girls with perfect Anglo features in makeup to make them look "biracial" is weird and ridiculous. I mean, the color of our skin is not the only thing that makes biracial or non-white people different or beautiful. It's kind of like making a black or Asian Barbie that's the same as the white ones but with darker skin. I don't know if I'm offended, just weirded out and kind of angry. Sure, they have darker skin. They also have big eyes and perfect tiny noses, and can go back to being the dominant race anytime they want. So I'm mixed. ? #antmblackface
@Blueberry26: Nicole in photo 1 was supposed to be a person of Malagasy and Japanese descent. Hence the kimono and "African" accessories. The whole shoot was ridiculous, but for the record, she won best photo for the week. The shot pictured here was not the photo displayed on the show, however. #antmblackface
It's what Nirmal Puwar describes as "the universal empty point" that white female bodies are able to occupy precisely because their bodies are racially unmarked.
I take serious issue with this kind of thinking. White female bodies are only "racially unmarked" by western standards. There are all sorts of racially markings on white people, but we just sort of ignore them as the norm, or the standard.
I really hope we'll get beyond this kind of thinking on day, because just as it denigrates all other races as some kind of marked other, it denies a racial identity to caucasians.
I'm not trying to be all "poor white lady" about this, but I think recognizing the racial features of all races is important. #antmblackface
@JLady: I think that's what the point is; we are "unmarked" because white is the standard for "normal" and because that kind of thinking points out 'otherness' in non-white
(for the record I don't like the use of the word non-white) people. #antmblackface
@Norma Neufner Lady Officer: I know what you mean, but I guess my point was that defining white as normal, or the standard, or whatever, does a disservice to every race, not just every "non-white" race. #antmblackface
Maybe this can be seen as a reaction to the white-washing that often happens in fashion. Think of Beyonce - [jezebel.com]
I think I'm giving Tyra too much credit here, though. I've never known her to be nuanced. I'm sure the judging will be like "it's a nice picture, but you're not giving me enough *ethnic* here." #antmblackface
As an extremely fair-skinned biracial female, I'm bothered by the fact that the makeup artists chose to paint the girls in varying shades of brown. Maybe I'm just hyper-sensitive to the subject because I've spent years trying to assert that it is possible for a person to identify themselves as belonging to two races, but to me, this kind of plays into the archaic idea that if you have any black ancestry, you are automatically classified as only black. Not everyone with a dark-skinned parent ends up with dark-skin. What I love about multiracial people is that we come in all shades of the rainbow, with all kinds of hair textures and colors, and I feel like this just lumps everyone into a big "vaguely brownish" pile. #antmblackface
This Vogue-style "blackface" thing just isn't offensive to me.
The theatrical old-style blackface would certainly be offensive to me because of it's history. But I see no problem with using makeup and accessories to make someone look like something other than they are (and I point out downthread that ANTM has done this a bunch of times in different ways).
By way of analogy, think about drag. You take men and dress them up to look like *caricatures* of women. And, generally, people don't consider drag offensive. But drag was never done to marginalize women the way that blackface was done to marginalize blacks. If anything, it was a celebration of femininity, while blackface was certainly not a celebration of blacks.
History and context matters. It's not that black makeup or dressing as the other is somehow automatically offensive, it's how "blackface" was used. This doesn't aesthetically resemble "blackface" makeup to me, thus, I'm not offended. #antmblackface
Thanks for reporting on this; last week in my photography theory class we were discussing the colonizers gaze and its influence on photography. I argued that it is more than a specific era in photography and should be considered an aesthetic. When I then pointed out that it is still alive and well, and is frequently used in fashion photography, a few classmates scoffed. Now I have current evidence! #antmblackface
@OneTwoPunch: Yup, that's on the syllabus for discussion later this semester. It's nice having a feminist (female!) professor teaching critical theory.
I seem to live in a dream world where I assume that most of my classmates know basic feminism/privilege 101 stuff, but lo and behold, my rose-coloured glasses are shattered every time. #antmblackface
I must be Zoolandered from TyTy, because, I kinda understand what she going for (?! Hide the brown acid!).
In her mind, women who are of mixed ethnicities and/or are bi-racial are under-represented in modeling, so she is trying to recreate her vision of better representation through diversity.
You have to cut through the modelspeak and wacky imagery, though. She's actually done this type of treatment in past shows. Also, I think she thinks she's making the young models "grow" and question what race actually constitutes by having them don another identity in an effort to channel some sort of empathetic energy, at least for the duration of the shoot.
Or did I just grow a whole brain for Tyra? #antmblackface
@OneTwoPunch: In her mind, women who are of mixed ethnicities and/or are bi-racial are under-represented in modeling, so she is trying to recreate her vision of better representation through diversity.
I don't think that's true but even if it were, wouldn't it be easier (less offensive / stupid) to just hire a bi-racial model?
Bi-racial and multi-racial is HOT!!! right now (and has been in advertising for the last five years or so). She's just jumping on the band wagon. #antmblackface
I don't know what the heck modeling is about anymore, I'm as at sea as the rest of us. At least in runway I get that designers try to find models who resemble hangers because they feel it makes clothes drape better on them, but high fashion just seems...surreal.
How many women conform to their standards of height and weight anyway? They are constantly narrowing the field to exclude more and more women anyway. I sense sometimes that tyra is frustrated by the choices presented to her and is trying alter the judges choices, albeit in odd ways, but isn't she the one who selects all the models with her cohorts? #antmblackface
You know, I'm irritated to see that a few people are failing to find anything wrong with this. Sure, Blackface '09 isn't as terrible as say, Blackface in the early 20th century but to me, the undertones are still very present. As a bi-racial woman (Black and Korean) I'll just end on this: Stop. Exoticizing. The. Mixed. People.
goddamn it.
Sure, slap some brown paint on a woman, do her makeup and she can be bi-racial.. but will she understand the psychological and emotional implications of being mixed race? Will she understand the varied experiences we of mixed race have to go through?
@neutronikz: AND, being mixed race doesn't even necessarily mean your skin is a particular shade of tan-ish! I'm mixed race and I'm a lovely shade of slightly darker than pale.
And how can people sit up here and have no problem with this yet oppose the apparent lightening of Beyonce's skin on the box of hair coloring? #antmblackface
@thesciencegirl: If Tyra ever had a theme park (TyTy World! shudder), you know there would be a ride called: Mixed Race the Real Experience. Think, "It's a Small World..." but increase the insensitivity and have all the animatronics Smizing.
I am also mixed race and this is not ok with me. Mixed race doesn't mean tan with a head wrap and some "tribal" beads. Are there any black models left in this cycle? What do they morph into?
I too like ethnic ambiguity but not when it's reduced to fashion and trendiness. That's the thing that horrifies me is that this is becoming a trend. Remember this little gem: [www.americanapparel.net]
I would love to understand the motivation and justification for this new trend because I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people think this is ok. #antmblackface
@JerseyGrrrl: I'm not saying it's OK or not OK. Perhaps the point I was making is too obvious, but this is Tyra Banks, whose talk show regularly dumbs down hot button issue. And this is ANTM, which has never been particularly sensitive or clued-in about identity politics.
This is stupid stunt, possibly dreamed up by cynical producers in order to drum up a little controversy = ratings. I certainly find the emerging trend of blackface/brownface to be disturbing and offensive, but I can't muster up much outrage about this particular iteration. It just makes me tired. #antmblackface
I'm really interested in the idea of the white woman's body being racially "unmarked". These bodies are racially unmarked and identified as such, yet they aren't ambiguous or indifferent because of it. Instead, 'otherness' is discerned and appointed to the 'non-white body' because of it.
I can't help but think of this photo shoot as Orientalism plain and simple. It's fetishization of the exotic 'non-white' body. And it becomes fetishistic because of the nature of the canvas being that of the "unmarked" white body. I also can't help but feel that portraying the girls in 'tribal' clothes and accessories truly demonstrates that this is fetishizing or even imaging what an exotic culture should look like. #antmblackface
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It's a story I've come to enjoy, because it's so much to take in! And, actually, I love it—it shows how cool and open-minded my ancestors were because they married for love! Very romantic.
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As an inter-racial person who is often asked, "What are you?" because I look neither white nor Filipino (which I am) nor really Latina (which most people assume, here in AZ anyway) the idea of putting white girls with perfect Anglo features in makeup to make them look "biracial" is weird and ridiculous. I mean, the color of our skin is not the only thing that makes biracial or non-white people different or beautiful. It's kind of like making a black or Asian Barbie that's the same as the white ones but with darker skin. I don't know if I'm offended, just weirded out and kind of angry. Sure, they have darker skin. They also have big eyes and perfect tiny noses, and can go back to being the dominant race anytime they want. So I'm mixed. ? #antmblackface
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I take serious issue with this kind of thinking. White female bodies are only "racially unmarked" by western standards. There are all sorts of racially markings on white people, but we just sort of ignore them as the norm, or the standard.
I really hope we'll get beyond this kind of thinking on day, because just as it denigrates all other races as some kind of marked other, it denies a racial identity to caucasians.
I'm not trying to be all "poor white lady" about this, but I think recognizing the racial features of all races is important. #antmblackface
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(for the record I don't like the use of the word non-white) people. #antmblackface
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I think I'm giving Tyra too much credit here, though. I've never known her to be nuanced. I'm sure the judging will be like "it's a nice picture, but you're not giving me enough *ethnic* here." #antmblackface
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The theatrical old-style blackface would certainly be offensive to me because of it's history. But I see no problem with using makeup and accessories to make someone look like something other than they are (and I point out downthread that ANTM has done this a bunch of times in different ways).
By way of analogy, think about drag. You take men and dress them up to look like *caricatures* of women. And, generally, people don't consider drag offensive. But drag was never done to marginalize women the way that blackface was done to marginalize blacks. If anything, it was a celebration of femininity, while blackface was certainly not a celebration of blacks.
History and context matters. It's not that black makeup or dressing as the other is somehow automatically offensive, it's how "blackface" was used. This doesn't aesthetically resemble "blackface" makeup to me, thus, I'm not offended. #antmblackface
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I seem to live in a dream world where I assume that most of my classmates know basic feminism/privilege 101 stuff, but lo and behold, my rose-coloured glasses are shattered every time. #antmblackface
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In her mind, women who are of mixed ethnicities and/or are bi-racial are under-represented in modeling, so she is trying to recreate her vision of better representation through diversity.
You have to cut through the modelspeak and wacky imagery, though. She's actually done this type of treatment in past shows. Also, I think she thinks she's making the young models "grow" and question what race actually constitutes by having them don another identity in an effort to channel some sort of empathetic energy, at least for the duration of the shoot.
Or did I just grow a whole brain for Tyra? #antmblackface
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I don't think that's true but even if it were, wouldn't it be easier (less offensive / stupid) to just hire a bi-racial model?
Bi-racial and multi-racial is HOT!!! right now (and has been in advertising for the last five years or so). She's just jumping on the band wagon. #antmblackface
10/28/09
I don't know what the heck modeling is about anymore, I'm as at sea as the rest of us. At least in runway I get that designers try to find models who resemble hangers because they feel it makes clothes drape better on them, but high fashion just seems...surreal.
How many women conform to their standards of height and weight anyway? They are constantly narrowing the field to exclude more and more women anyway. I sense sometimes that tyra is frustrated by the choices presented to her and is trying alter the judges choices, albeit in odd ways, but isn't she the one who selects all the models with her cohorts? #antmblackface
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goddamn it.
Sure, slap some brown paint on a woman, do her makeup and she can be bi-racial.. but will she understand the psychological and emotional implications of being mixed race? Will she understand the varied experiences we of mixed race have to go through?
I say, hell naw. #antmblackface
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And how can people sit up here and have no problem with this yet oppose the apparent lightening of Beyonce's skin on the box of hair coloring? #antmblackface
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I keep reading about how it's like trendy now that I'm mixed, and I'm really wondering what the heck is up with that.
Face paint doesn't even touch on the real experience. #antmblackface
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I'm a basic white, European ancestry, middle-class American and these pictures make me go ewwww.
Take a white woman, darken her skin with makeup and give her a BONE NECKLACE? What is the point?
Now take a white person, darken their skin, and covertly film them for several weeks? That would be interesting.
Already been done. Sort of. #antmblackface
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I am also mixed race and this is not ok with me. Mixed race doesn't mean tan with a head wrap and some "tribal" beads. Are there any black models left in this cycle? What do they morph into?
I too like ethnic ambiguity but not when it's reduced to fashion and trendiness. That's the thing that horrifies me is that this is becoming a trend. Remember this little gem: [www.americanapparel.net]
I would love to understand the motivation and justification for this new trend because I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people think this is ok. #antmblackface
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This is stupid stunt, possibly dreamed up by cynical producers in order to drum up a little controversy = ratings. I certainly find the emerging trend of blackface/brownface to be disturbing and offensive, but I can't muster up much outrage about this particular iteration. It just makes me tired. #antmblackface
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I can't help but think of this photo shoot as Orientalism plain and simple. It's fetishization of the exotic 'non-white' body. And it becomes fetishistic because of the nature of the canvas being that of the "unmarked" white body. I also can't help but feel that portraying the girls in 'tribal' clothes and accessories truly demonstrates that this is fetishizing or even imaging what an exotic culture should look like. #antmblackface