You've successfully completed behavior that would normally get you slapped with a restraining order. You're proud of yourself. Now I'm supposed to clap for you?
It's like when the kid I used to babysit came to tell me that she stuffed 7 whole rolls of toilet paper down the toilet. While impressive, I ain't clapping kid. #paparazzi
Just read a conspiracy theory of how Jackie O killed JFK. The evidence was mind blowing and I ended up reading conspiracy theories all night long. #paparazzi
@sarah0220 (please don't take my star): Wait. There was so much evidence to support the theory your mind was blown, or the "evidence" is so stupid you can't believe it's even suggested?
@sarah0220 (please don't take my star): Hope you post the title, because Jacqueline conspiracy theories are one of my favorite ways to deal with insomnia. Then there's "Nemesis: the true story of Onassis, Jackie and the love triangle that brought down the Kennedys," by Peter Evans, another swell midnight read. More on point, her relationships with photographers and her views on image making as an expressive art form are more complex than space here allows, but briefly, 'controlling' comes first to mind before 'phobic.'
@krismry: @Eleanor Ramilly: @Sgt.Hatred: The evidence was mind blowing because it seemed so fact based but at the same time extremely hard to believe. It's kind of hard to explain. I will post the link as soon as I find it again.
Also, I don't think it was a waste of time. It definitely killed some time and was interesting to read, despite the ludicrous theories. #paparazzi
@sarah0220 (please don't take my star): Hey, I definitely spent a lot of time reading evidence suggesting that Paul is, in fact, dead. Do I actually think died years ago? No. I've found that there is almost an overwhelming amount of evidence to support most famous conspiracy theories.
They make for an interesting read, but they can't all be true... otherwise Kennedy was killed at least three times by my count.
One of the main reasons I don't read gossip rags is because I don't like to encourage the paps to continue to stalk celebrities in the manner in which we have become accustomed to them doing it. #paparazzi
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Same. I always want to ask, "How do the paparazzi live with themselves?" but I should really be asking, "How do tabloid readers/consumers live with themselves." The whole situation is pretty sick if you ask me.
But will they still post flyers on the signposts near the shoot? That's all I care about. I need the name of the show/movie so I can head to IMDB and figure out who I should be on the lookout for. #paparazzi
I've heard of the paparazzi getting in the way of shooting before-- for example, there's a scene in the Guru where you can see a paparazzo taking pictures in the background-- so I have a hard time shedding a tear for them. #paparazzi
What if you went to buy ice cream, and later found out that the ice cream you bought was stolen, and you were being sued by a rich person for eating it?
If the original ice cream owners were constantly in the news being run down on the street, mobbed, and harassed so that the intermediary could steal that brand ice cream to sell it to me, it's my responsiblity to not buy it or to make sure that it's not that particular brand. I know this site likes these pictures, but the "How could we possibly know?? What would you feel like if it was you?!" angle reeks of self-absolution. You (tabloids, etc.) know for a fact that you're part of the problem, now you have to decide if the money you make from perpetuating the problem is worth paying the fines.
People have been killed by the paparazzi. For what? So we can get pictures of who people we don't know are currently dating? What they're wearing? We don't let people that sell fake bags off the hook on this site, even though it's their livelihood, so why should media organizations that benefit from this bad behavior get a pass? It ain't ice cream, people. #paparazzi
@lydiafaye007: If you view the blog from a computer in California, you've probably established sufficient contact with the state to pursue the case. #paparazzi
This is a tough issue to do anything about; you have the rights of the press vs. the rights of the person and I see both as: 1)I'm a person who thinks privacy is a WONDERFUL thing (yeah, no desire for celebrity or fame here) and 2)I'm studying to become a writer, so I think freedom of the press is a WONDERFUL thing.
I'll start with the rights of the press side. Basically, the press has to have the right to photograph, write, interview, etc, so that issues, topics, etc, can be displayed from multiple points of view and that news can be circulated to the general public, without the fear of retribution by the government. If you start putting limits on the press, then you walk into the territory of some non-democratic countries where an outlet has to be careful of what they say for fear of what the government will do to them.
With this right comes HUGE responsibility of the press; what to say, what not to say, how far to take things, etc. Is/isn't it ok to press a politician to the breaking point when questioning them about an affair, accepting bribes, not paying taxes, etc? Is/isn't it ok to press a young girl to the breaking point about an assault on her, her helping her parents rob people, her beating the snot out of another girl, etc?
I think there is a difference between respectable "press" and someone who spends $800 dollars on a camera so they can stalk celebrities, take photos, and sell them to a trash rag for hundreds, maybe even thousands of dollars. I would FERVENTLY hope someone who considers themself to be part of the press to have some intellect and know the difference between right or wrong and know approximately where that line is (they are human). In my view, the paparazzi are... a blemish to good journalism. I know some people love this stuff, but I can live without seeing unimportant people ("celebrities") in pictures without makeup, trying to leave a club, or just any and everywhere in their day to day lives. I know there is no way to differentiate between press and paparazzi, but I think the world of journalism should do more to self-police and stop these unsavory people from trashing the general image of journalism.
As far as personal rights go; I think you should be able to walk down the street without being mobbed by a group of people. I think its wrong that you try to leave a location, but can't because your vehicle is surrounded by people to the point you can't move without hurting someone. I think you should be able to take a flight without having to run to your gate to avoid people asking you stupid questions and taking pictures with which to critique every inch of your life later. I think you should be able to leave your home without fearing for the safety of you, your children, and your loved ones.
Do famous people/celebrities agree to a certain loss of anonymity when they become famous? Sure, I'll relent you that. I'll even admit some "stars" thrive on being in the spotlight, being followed by the paparazzi, and having their entire lives played out for all to see. But some don't, and thats where the problem lies. Some "stars" just want to do their job and all that goes along with it, and then just go home and be a regular joe. They don't want to have to sneak around everywhere. They don't want to have a store close just so they can go shopping. They just want to live a normal life, like you and me.
Is there a middle ground here? I think so. I think most "celebrities" would consent to the fact that they have given up some anonymity to do what they do. I also think that the journalism industry can do lots more to stop the unsavory practices of the paparazzi. Does this require the government getting involved? Not at all. Until both sides take responsibility though, who else will straighten out this mess? #paparazzi
I have a friend who is quite well-known, and one week I opened up a tabloid and saw a picture of his wife, who is not famous or in the industry whatsoever, and his 3 year old son playing at the park. He was not there. I could not believe it. It was such an incredible invasion of privacy. I could have understood a tiny bit more if he had been at the park as well, but no.
I do agree that, to an extent, being a public figure requires relinquishing some privacy, but there has to be a line, and the above crossed it big time for me. #paparazzi
@Spike49: Ugh. I think taking photos of stars' children is just awful. The kids are not public figures. If they're with their (famous) parent, that might be a little different, but this just smacks of stalking. #paparazzi
Someone I know has the theory that the problem with this is that is all part of the same economic model. Artificial supply and demand that in turn create the conditions where an actor can earn obscene amounts of money because of measures of profitability that are partly fed by media hype and the culture of celebrity tabloids, which help shape public perceptions and expectations. Which in turn create a hostile environment to feed the demand, which now has a life of its own and operates as separate entity while still feeding the system. I don't know, it's a fine line to thread. And I share Dodai's ambivalent feelings about it. A law like the one signed by Schwarzenegger doesn't address all the issues, merely tries to solve some of them while it raises other questions. #paparazzi
I agree. Also, I think the law lets celebrities manipulate the press a bit: they COURT attention when it suits them, but only then. If this law is enforced, only celebrity-endorsed photos will exist...which means the blogs I love will turn into InStyle and People. Blech. #paparazzi
@CristinaS: We all court attention when it suits us, but only then. If you're an actor by trade, you're not entitled to privacy? It's this very attitude that I cannot understand. Why do you think it's your right to see pictures of these people taken in private settings (the kinds that are taken when the photog breaks the law to get them)? #paparazzi
@yvanehtnioj: Hmmm. Maybe you're right. But when publicists issue press releases about an actor's love life, pretending like it's news, shouldn't we treat it like news? i.e. not private and open to questioning. Also, many, many top actors manage to never have paparazzi in their face, without legislation. #paparazzi
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Also, I don't think it was a waste of time. It definitely killed some time and was interesting to read, despite the ludicrous theories. #paparazzi
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They make for an interesting read, but they can't all be true... otherwise Kennedy was killed at least three times by my count.
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If the original ice cream owners were constantly in the news being run down on the street, mobbed, and harassed so that the intermediary could steal that brand ice cream to sell it to me, it's my responsiblity to not buy it or to make sure that it's not that particular brand. I know this site likes these pictures, but the "How could we possibly know?? What would you feel like if it was you?!" angle reeks of self-absolution. You (tabloids, etc.) know for a fact that you're part of the problem, now you have to decide if the money you make from perpetuating the problem is worth paying the fines.
People have been killed by the paparazzi. For what? So we can get pictures of who people we don't know are currently dating? What they're wearing? We don't let people that sell fake bags off the hook on this site, even though it's their livelihood, so why should media organizations that benefit from this bad behavior get a pass? It ain't ice cream, people. #paparazzi
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I'll start with the rights of the press side. Basically, the press has to have the right to photograph, write, interview, etc, so that issues, topics, etc, can be displayed from multiple points of view and that news can be circulated to the general public, without the fear of retribution by the government. If you start putting limits on the press, then you walk into the territory of some non-democratic countries where an outlet has to be careful of what they say for fear of what the government will do to them.
With this right comes HUGE responsibility of the press; what to say, what not to say, how far to take things, etc. Is/isn't it ok to press a politician to the breaking point when questioning them about an affair, accepting bribes, not paying taxes, etc? Is/isn't it ok to press a young girl to the breaking point about an assault on her, her helping her parents rob people, her beating the snot out of another girl, etc?
I think there is a difference between respectable "press" and someone who spends $800 dollars on a camera so they can stalk celebrities, take photos, and sell them to a trash rag for hundreds, maybe even thousands of dollars. I would FERVENTLY hope someone who considers themself to be part of the press to have some intellect and know the difference between right or wrong and know approximately where that line is (they are human). In my view, the paparazzi are... a blemish to good journalism. I know some people love this stuff, but I can live without seeing unimportant people ("celebrities") in pictures without makeup, trying to leave a club, or just any and everywhere in their day to day lives. I know there is no way to differentiate between press and paparazzi, but I think the world of journalism should do more to self-police and stop these unsavory people from trashing the general image of journalism.
As far as personal rights go; I think you should be able to walk down the street without being mobbed by a group of people. I think its wrong that you try to leave a location, but can't because your vehicle is surrounded by people to the point you can't move without hurting someone. I think you should be able to take a flight without having to run to your gate to avoid people asking you stupid questions and taking pictures with which to critique every inch of your life later. I think you should be able to leave your home without fearing for the safety of you, your children, and your loved ones.
Do famous people/celebrities agree to a certain loss of anonymity when they become famous? Sure, I'll relent you that. I'll even admit some "stars" thrive on being in the spotlight, being followed by the paparazzi, and having their entire lives played out for all to see. But some don't, and thats where the problem lies. Some "stars" just want to do their job and all that goes along with it, and then just go home and be a regular joe. They don't want to have to sneak around everywhere. They don't want to have a store close just so they can go shopping. They just want to live a normal life, like you and me.
Is there a middle ground here? I think so. I think most "celebrities" would consent to the fact that they have given up some anonymity to do what they do. I also think that the journalism industry can do lots more to stop the unsavory practices of the paparazzi. Does this require the government getting involved? Not at all. Until both sides take responsibility though, who else will straighten out this mess? #paparazzi
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I do agree that, to an extent, being a public figure requires relinquishing some privacy, but there has to be a line, and the above crossed it big time for me. #paparazzi
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