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BetteD
11/05/09

In reply to "She could probably light a cigarette in a thunderstorm."
When I am her age, I want to be inside that picture. Like, everthing about it screams person-I-want-to-be-when-I-grow-up.... Punk as fuck. #leonbing
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Diziet_Sma
11/05/09

@BetteD: Totally. #leonbing
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graham_but_not_a_cracker
02:30 PM

@Diziet_Sma: Third that #leonbing
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Penny
11/05/09

In reply to "She could probably light a cigarette in a thunderstorm."
I can light a cigarette in a shitstorm. #leonbing
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Scout
11/05/09

@Penny: just mind the methane #leonbing
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toastandlove
09/28/09

In reply to Crystal Renn On Being A "Plus-Size" Model
My size shouldn't matter, only the fact that I'm six feet tall, gorgeous and stacked should matter.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
09/28/09

@toastandlove: Nailed it. Thank you.
As much as I love Crystal, it's less a problem with her argument than a problem that she doesn't seem to acknowledge that piece of the issue in the "I'm an icon for inclusive appearances of women" rather than "I'm an icon for inclusive appearances of models" discussion.

If that makes sense. It's a tricky idea, and I think I'm having a little trouble articulating it.
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Snowbunny
09/28/09

In reply to Crystal Renn On Being A "Plus-Size" Model
I appreciate her message but "plus" and "straight" sized clothing should be labeled. Plus sized clothes are cut and designed differently from other clothes, getting rid of the plus category would be similar to cutting all sizes out of pants so women don't feel bad about what number size they are.

The sizes aren't the problem, the stigma that comes with the sizes is the problem.
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psychgirl1221
09/28/09

In reply to Crystal Renn On Being A "Plus-Size" Model
Crystal is beautiful, because she is Crystal Renn. She is drop dead gorgeous.

The problem isn't her, its the industry. A woman who is a normal weight shouldn't be identified as "plus sized". It makes everyone who isn't a size 2 sound like they're fat.

Honestly though, I don't have a problem with the plus sized label, when it is applied to someone who is plus sized. The modeling industry starts plus sized modeling at a size 8. When I was a size 14, I identified as plus sized and my larger friends had a problem with this.

Apparently plus sized is supposed to mean, "I'm so big that I can only shop in special stores where everything looks like a Mu Mu and tops are made out of polyester and pants have elastic waist bands." Or it at least felt that way. However, size 14's and 16's are in a unique predicament where they are on the smaller scale at plus sized stores and therefore it is hard to find clothes that fit and they are on the larger size in other stores, therefore it is hard to find clothes that fit.
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VirginiaDentata
09/28/09

In reply to Crystal Renn On Being A "Plus-Size" Model
This is plus sized? I don't usually have issues about my weight, but I find that to be fairly discouraging. And now I am reminded why I always avoided women's magazines and fashion shoots and the like.
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cate3710
09/28/09

@VirginiaDentata: She's a plus-sized MODEL. As someone pointed out on an earlier thread, plus-sized models are to real plus-sized women as "regular" models are to "regular" women.
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whynotshesaid
09/28/09

@VirginiaDentata: I usually feel just fine about myself until I look at fashion magazines, and then I feel like an elephant with a glandular disorder.
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whynotshesaid
09/28/09

@cate3710: So is criticism of the status quo now off-limits? I wasn't aware.
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EarlyGrey
09/28/09

In reply to Crystal Renn On Being A "Plus-Size" Model
I really like Crystal Renn and think she's usually pretty astute, and I generally agree with the sentiment that women's sizes shouldn't matter, however, I think this is a problematic quote. Crystal has chosen a profession where her greatest value is her physical appearance. Of course her size matters.

I think it's fair for women who actually are plus sized to be a little dismayed that Crystal is held up as a fat girl/plus size role model when she doesn't actually wear plus sizes. I don't think it's her job to change that, I just think that when you are a model and you talk a lot about body size and body image, you should be understanding of women who say "Hey, she's actually not plus sized. I wish there was a person who had a body that looks like mine who was considered sexy and beautiful."
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Misiula
09/28/09

@EarlyGrey: Don't you think she and other people in the profession can change that profession? Why keep it as it is if we can change it and maybe thus help the models and those who feel they should aspire to looking like models (becoming models)?

Sorry if I sound like Pollyanna, but I see no reason why the fashion world should be immune to change if the world around it is constantly changing in some ways (even if not always necessarily for the better).
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GirlFailer
09/28/09

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If we can't judge women by their size and looks, what's left for us to judge them by? Honestly, Crystal!
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c'est fou mec
09/28/09

@GirlFailer: don't worry, they can still judge us by how well we wash clothes and dishes and how many babies we can make.
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GirlFailer
09/28/09

@c'est fou mec: Thank goodness.
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linnyt is a walking cliché
09/28/09

@c'est fou mec: specifically, how many sons we pop out.
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NellMood
09/28/09

@GirlFailer: How many men we've slept with. Duh. What else could possibly matter?
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Texpat
09/28/09

@c'est fou mec: Don't forget cooking!
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PixieSparkle
09/28/09

In reply to Crystal Renn On Being A "Plus-Size" Model
WHY do these features always start with an inventory of what was eaten?
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jenniferhill
09/28/09

@PixieSparkle: If a model eats and no one writes about it, does it make a sound?
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boobookitteh
09/28/09

@PixieSparkle: ugh - and the approximate calories. That was annoying.
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Katxyz
09/28/09

@PixieSparkle:

She "demolishes" the bread, "sets upon" the appetizer" and breaks the creme brulee with a "brisk whack." Isn't eating terrifying?
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AthertonMerriweather
09/28/09

In reply to Crystal Renn On Being A "Plus-Size" Model
I'm a fan of one size fits all stretch pants, so I'm all for this.
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ucelluccia
09/28/09

@AthertonMerriweather: Thanksgiving pants!
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msAnthrope
09/28/09

@AthertonMerriweather:

if pants don't contain some spandex in them, i can't wear them. all my pants have at least 5% spandex content. it makes a huge difference.
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Misiula
09/28/09

In reply to Crystal Renn On Being A "Plus-Size" Model
I'm very thankful to Crystal Renn for speaking out. So many women don't fit into these rigid categories. Frankly, if we look at these categories more closely, no one does. Everybody (and every body) is different and not reducible to a tag with a number.
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pesematology
09/27/09

In reply to Does Religion Have A Place On The Catwalk?
"modeling is about leading an exemplary life and exuding inner beauty"

No it's not.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
09/27/09

@pesematology: Aww. You're not gonna let them have their illusions?
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colormeroutine
09/27/09

In reply to Does Religion Have A Place On The Catwalk?
Aren't modeling and Christianity kind of incompatible? Vanity is a sin, after all. And most Christian sects are pretty anti-anything-that-could-be-arousing...
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Ack
09/27/09

In reply to Does Religion Have A Place On The Catwalk?
You see, this is why I am an Athiest. I never understood why people need their religion to invade every part of their lives and dictate everything that they do. For me, there are times when God is relevant, and times when s/he isn't. And for me, unless you are blatantly harrassed at a job because of your religion, work really isn't one of those times when God has to always be first. So my reaction to this is really more of a question: why is this necessary?
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CollegeCamel
09/27/09

In reply to Does Religion Have A Place On The Catwalk?
Someone tell Amber from ANTM, quick!
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