I am so saddened reading all these comments about how loved she was. I didn't know who she was until today, but it's just so heartbreaking that she isn't here to see and understand how loved she really was. I'm not articulating this very well. I just wish she could see this outpouring of love and respect - but I guess if knowing you are loved is enough to keep you alive, many people would never kill themselves. Suicide is such a tragedy.
Jenna, in your experience, was depression a common occurrance in the modelling industry? I'm curious to know if perhaps her career contributed indirectly to her suicide. To be a bit more clear, I mean to say, are there any people looking out for the welfare of these girls or are they totally on their own?
Fame, beauty, acclaim, attention. It's all so many kids want these days, above everything else. This is a tragedy, but I hope it will at least show that those things can't buy happiness, and that suicide and depression can touch anyone.
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@Sputnik_Sweetheart: Yeah, I did...so, so sad. I was already crying at work because of stupid little things, now I feel horrible for being so emotional over something so petty.
I see how it's a problematic photo shoot concept but I still don't really think it's analogous to "blackface". It is problematic in other ways- it essentializes and co-opts races for artistic effect. That's a problem. But it's not "blackface". It is possible for a racial shoot to be problematic without it being "blackface"... I don't know if I feel comfortable using this term to describe something like this. I can't really explain why.
@TurtleSpeak:
I'm okay with calling it blackface. It might be possibly well-intended blackface, but it's still blackface. It doesn't have to be the clowny Sambo version to be blackface. It's still appropriation. Here's where it gets blurry: like actors, models are hired to create an illusion. Would this even be an issue if models of color were adequately represented? Would everyone be free to paint up as they pleased?
I'm not sure what to think. As an artist, it makes me sad that racism affects even the most innocent exploration. There are things that you might be drawn to aesthetically that you might have to pull back on because of how they'll be percieved.
@rodmanstreet: Maybe we should send this to Mr. Jay. I would kill to see an 80s film babe shoot: Dana/Zuul, Weird Science gal, Ally Sheedy as the Basketcase...wait they did that one...
@wordinedgewise: It's bad enough when I'm stifling laughter about my own joke, but this put me over the top. I had to excuse myself from my desk to stop the giggles in the bathroom. Now that I'm back, they are too.
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Whatever was eating away at her, may she have found peace.
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Rest in peace, Daul.
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You're missed Daul. So very missed.
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So easy and simple. That is how you "apologize." It's a different thing than "attempt to justify" or "rationalize."
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I'm okay with calling it blackface. It might be possibly well-intended blackface, but it's still blackface. It doesn't have to be the clowny Sambo version to be blackface. It's still appropriation. Here's where it gets blurry: like actors, models are hired to create an illusion. Would this even be an issue if models of color were adequately represented? Would everyone be free to paint up as they pleased?
I'm not sure what to think. As an artist, it makes me sad that racism affects even the most innocent exploration. There are things that you might be drawn to aesthetically that you might have to pull back on because of how they'll be percieved.
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THERE IS NO TYRA ONLY ZUUL!
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@TransFat: You have to admit, the resemblance is striking.
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@TransFat: I'll see your Zuul and raise you one Google search for "80's hair."
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ps-This is the only time I've ever resembled Ms. Weaver—when she played a sexed-up demon from an 80s movie. Crazy.
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@rodmanstreet: Maybe we should send this to Mr. Jay. I would kill to see an 80s film babe shoot: Dana/Zuul, Weird Science gal, Ally Sheedy as the Basketcase...wait they did that one...
@wordinedgewise: It's bad enough when I'm stifling laughter about my own joke, but this put me over the top. I had to excuse myself from my desk to stop the giggles in the bathroom. Now that I'm back, they are too.
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I thought her number one passion was slutshaming.
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