Working for free? Until LiLo also has to take a forced furlough, pick up the workloads of all the other "artistic directors" who got canned in the first round of layoffs, and forego medical benefits and matching 401K contributions while being told daily she's just lucky she has a job, she'd better not come crying to me.
I'm not really buying that Vogue doesn't know exactly what they'll be getting when a model shows up for a shoot. Agents keep pretty close tabs on their girls, and if Vogue was so alarmed by a girl who walked in the door significantly thinner than the girl they booked, don't they have some backup measures? This shoulder-shrugging, hands-off, "well, it's not really our fault; these little girls are so headstrong!" excuses aren't sitting well with me. #gracecoddington
Why does the fashion industry always engage in a game of hot potato with this issue? Every damn quote about this topic always covers the same things: yeah, the models are too thin and many of them having eating disorders; you need to understand that the fashion industry is about illusion and aspiration, not a reflection as life as we live it; I try to do my part, but you need to understand, the designers/editors/agents/hairstylists/photographers/dog walkers/ janitors prefer to work with thinner girls....and so on.
Jesus, for once could they just admit that they all consiously play a role in this game? I like Grace and I appreciate her touching upon the role age plays in this game, but give me a break. #gracecoddington
@Tchotchke: I tend to agree. I keep reading all these pieces about people in the fashion world who agree (Karl "No one wants to look at fat people" Lagerfield, notwithstanding) that these models are too thin, that there is a problem, etc. etc. but no one, even these very influential people, are offering no solutions and silly platitudes, suggesting that they probably don't see it as a problem at all. I agree, Coddington does make a bit more sense than most, but I still don't get much of substance out of this. #gracecoddington
@Trulymadlyme: I found it odd as well. However, when you think about the environment (far away from parents, friends, weird hours, etc.) it could factor in to one's mental state. Not sure if that's where she was going, though. #gracecoddington
@Penny: I dunno. It almost felt like the way people talk about substance abuse. Like the school of thought that addiction doesn't exist, there's just a need to moderate usage in a mature manner. Some about that comment just felt off. #gracecoddington
@Trulymadlyme: I totally agree regarding avoiding an eating disorder, but I was thinking she was referring to the age issue in the way of influence. As a recovered anorexic, I know the disease is not as easy as someone telling you to be thinner and you spiraling downward. However, I think when you are quite young, and maybe not as grown into or sure of yourself as you eventually would be, you may be more susceptible to taking someone's words or opinion much more seriously. Especially in a situation where you are trying to "make it," as a 15 year old, I think I would have been much more unsure of telling someone off than I would be at 22.
I hope that makes sense, it's been a rough day. #gracecoddington
@Trulymadlyme: Well, maturity is one thing. But physical metabolism and age differences in metabolism is another.
When you are younger you can definitely abuse your bodies in different ways and not feel the repercussions ever if at all. It's only when you get past 25—when your metabolism shifts—that you simply can't eat/drink/do things the same without it truly affecting your life and health. #gracecoddington
@skatez: It makes a lot of sense. When you're so young, trying to break into this impossibly cliquish business, and unsure of yourself, people will take advantage of your tenuous foothold.
That's how it is in any career. Any request for basic needs is met with:
"You knew what you were getting into with this industry. You know how the economy is these days! Aren't you a team player? Do you want this job or not?!" #gracecoddington
@Trulymadlyme: I read it as she meant that they don't know enough to do things like avoid triggers...? Not snort cocaine because you don't fully understand the risks...? #gracecoddington
@Trulymadlyme: I think there's truth to this. The complete loss of control that must accompany being a brand new, young model and having everyone else choose everything for you, schedule everything, and the only thing you're in charge of is losing another inch or 2 off your thighs. #gracecoddington
@mb: Yes, and I read it as a veiled reference to these young girls taking drugs to stay thin -- which is probably not something she can say outright. #gracecoddington
It's true that it must be taken into account that people who work in fashion will have a different outlook. I did research in college specifically around the fashion industry/media and the development of EDs, and while it's certainly an issue, it's not one of the more potent factors. I dislike the straight arrow that is drawn from one to the other.
I am glad she's brought up just how YOUNG the girls are these days. Christ. When I first saw Karlie Kloss, I thought she was 12. She's totally grown on me, and I really like her, but...so young! #gracecoddington
I wonder what, exactly, you'd expect an objective source to say about the essence of love. "It's everything except that red rose parfum crap. Man that stuff stinks. Ignore Ashley, it's just the crack talking."
@lafleur: OH no! I was just making that up to make a joke on the insane sizing in the high-end industry! I don't know what sizes really are available. Sorry for confusion....
I was so prepared to be on Twiggy's side. I too have "long-since consigned [Woody Allen] to the Academy of the Overrateed" .
But, really Twiggy....
It IS obnoxious, pretentious, and dick-ish for one to purposefully try to make another person feel intellectually inferior.
But, cruel?
That probably sucked and all, but she could have just blown it off and then opened a book. Or blown it off and been content without a favorite philosopher.
AS IF everyone can name their fav. philosopher and, of those who can do so, how many really know what the hell they're talking about?!
At least she wasn't interviewed by Steven Colbert or Sasha Baren-Coen. Now that could have been brutal. Esp. the later.
@fluxus flucker: She was only a teenager and this was long before being an asshole was in fashion. I don't see much difference between dickish and cruel anyway.
But but...! If Lara Stone lost weight, then she would just be a model, not a "curvy model". And the designers wouldn't have any "curvy models" to parade on their runways as an example of how open-minded they are!
Why are people so angry at Lara Stone for (unsurprisingly, given the stress of her profession) having a skewed body image? How about directing some ire at ElleUK, whose writer breathlessly and unironically reported these comments and then expressed her approval of how "well" this new "routine" is working for her?
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How bourgeois, LiLo. #lindsaylohan
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Jesus, for once could they just admit that they all consiously play a role in this game? I like Grace and I appreciate her touching upon the role age plays in this game, but give me a break. #gracecoddington
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I found this comment to be odd. Because avoiding an eating disorder isn't as simple as maturity and regulating yourself. Very odd. #gracecoddington
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I hope that makes sense, it's been a rough day. #gracecoddington
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When you are younger you can definitely abuse your bodies in different ways and not feel the repercussions ever if at all. It's only when you get past 25—when your metabolism shifts—that you simply can't eat/drink/do things the same without it truly affecting your life and health. #gracecoddington
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That's how it is in any career. Any request for basic needs is met with:
"You knew what you were getting into with this industry. You know how the economy is these days! Aren't you a team player? Do you want this job or not?!" #gracecoddington
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I am glad she's brought up just how YOUNG the girls are these days. Christ. When I first saw Karlie Kloss, I thought she was 12. She's totally grown on me, and I really like her, but...so young! #gracecoddington
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But, really Twiggy....
It IS obnoxious, pretentious, and dick-ish for one to purposefully try to make another person feel intellectually inferior.
But, cruel?
That probably sucked and all, but she could have just blown it off and then opened a book. Or blown it off and been content without a favorite philosopher.
AS IF everyone can name their fav. philosopher and, of those who can do so, how many really know what the hell they're talking about?!
At least she wasn't interviewed by Steven Colbert or Sasha Baren-Coen. Now that could have been brutal. Esp. the later.
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