The tagline is Peggy's, you can thank Sal for the model's fierce smize, and the ad was sold to Lucky Strike by Pete Campbell over a deli lunch served by his wife, Trudie, Patron Saint of Awesome Hats.
Consider the political implications of this, as this ad was probably created during the Vietnam War. (Since starvation was a rampant problem for the Vietnamese, the "eat my hat" statement is particularly "clever.")
@Mary McCarthyite: Oh snap. I can always count on you to bring the historical perspective. Every month, when I make a payment on the college loans with which I payed for my history degree, I'll think of you and weep.
@Mary McCarthyite: I know, I know, pedants should be beaten, but I can't help myself. I believe that filtered Lucky Strikes were introduced about 1964-65, and from the style of the ad I would say this dates no later than 1967-68 (this is pure gut feel, that and I used to be a graphic arts/advertising geek when I was a teenager).
@midwestdesigner: Pet peeve time: Not all Asian clothes are called "kimono" and that collar is not typical of a kimono. It's typical of a cheongsam/qipao.
@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): @midwestdesigner: Kimonos don't have mandarin collars, though. Mandarin collared top plus sunhat was fairly typical in many places in Asia, so I don't think the way she's styled is in and of itself offensive. The issue, if there is one, is using typically Asian imagery to sell something, depending on the viewer having preconceived notions of "The Orient" and Asians. However, though the model is styled prettily in traditional clothing, the copy has nothingto do with Asia or Asians. I'm thinking this ad, not so terrible. (Unless you take it to where Mary McCarthyite did above, which could be valid, but I don't know enough about when this ad came out to confirm or deny that: I'd need more context.)
@midwestdesigner: Heh! Sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine. When the original The Sims 2 game shipped, it came with a qipao and a hanbock as in game clothing. I got so freaking sick of correcting people that none of the above were actually "kimono" OR of Japanese origin OR something you could dress your Geisha Sim up in.
There really is no way to tell what sort of human she would have become under different circumstances – but then is there ever? For all I know Betty would be just as boring in modern times, but last time I checked I didn't believe in feminism for some, or feminism for the nice, or feminism for friends only. #madmen
Did anyone else watch that clip and think "Wow, Don is talking about himself there and not Betty"?
Like, when Don says "You think you're better than everyone else" and "You're a whore" I feel like he really means those things about himself. It's that whole You-hate-in-others-what-is-true-about-yo... thing.
The baby crying, Betty in her pjs and Don in his suit... the kids will be better off with you, Don? You who often comes home drunk, if you come home at all? it just punctuated to me that all these terrible things he's saying about Betty, all the things people can possibly judge against Betty as character flaws... they're all Don's flaws.
Especially the life raft thing. Really, Don? And stealing someone's identity to get a new life is better than what Betty's doing? Projecting much?
"For most of season three, Betty's been pouty and insolent."
I don't think that I can agree with this statement. I don't see her as pouty and insolent as much as I see a defeated woman, hopeless, and trapped. The fire that we saw in the first season when she shot the birds burned because she still had dreams of what her family and life could be. And I think that she realized that her sleeping with the man at the bar in season two was not going to be a fix-all, although it may have been temporarily cathartic. Betty didn't have anything else to give in the end, and I think the writers wanted to illustrate that. #madmen
Mad Men does away with the concept of villains. Everyone (with the possible exception of Peggy) takes their turn. Nobody has to get on a side, there's plenty of blame to go around for everyone.
This was clearest to me during the final epic argument between Betty and Don. He physically threw her around--very tacky regardless of what time you are living in--and she claimed he wasn't good enough for her. I think they've both been selfish and childish. Nobody is winning any contests. It's interesting that viewers treat this like a boxing match.
I noted that one of the quotes used was from TWoP, who inconsistently maintain a policy that forbids commenters from dissing or even actually addressing other commenters, particularly in a negative manner. Depending on who's running the thread, you can get dinged or even band for criticizing others on the board, even in an even-handed manner. Of course, again, it really depends on who takes notice. #madmen
I never understood why people hated Betty. I think we had plenty of insight into her inner life this season-especially the birth episode. Didn't people watch the hospital episode? And how she shone in Rome? Out of context, she may look cold, but this is the woman who lost feeling of her hands because she buried her misery so deep. This is the woman who had to suffer endless deceit, humiliation and neglect in her husband's hands, day after day, year after year, while society told her that being a divorcee meant being subject to all sorts of abuse and judgment, as well as financial problems.
She lost the only person she trusted in the world. She kept trying the only way she knew, while her husband ignored her inner world, and treated her like an accessory. She finally gathered the courage to walk out. Why should a miserable woman be a good mother? Miserable people are not good anything. When Don feels miserable, he gets a two week sex holiday under the CA sun and a christening in the ocean. Betty? She gets to wait.
At this point, I hate Don. There is not part of that man that is not 100% self-absorbed. There is nothing he does that is not self-serving. And people around him keep falling for his charming ways. Every good thing he says or does comes with an ulterior motive. He walks all over people and then he apologizes. Ooops, it's the Don Draper magic, the problem is gone. As Sally said, he keeps saying things he doesn't mean. He has had no character development. He's still the fool he was in the first episode. #madmen
im in the minority of not hating this season. i think her development into a sort of hopeless person makes sense... she was oblivious in season 1, became a badass who shot birds and kicked don out in season 2, but then her pregnancy made her give up. it was all so sad! she was ready to spread her wings a bit until she was roped back into starting motherhood all over again. season 3 was her sort of crumbling and hardening, but knowing there was no escaping her identity. #madmen
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But, now that I know that is not the case, well- it is just so wrong.
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The tagline is Peggy's, you can thank Sal for the model's fierce smize, and the ad was sold to Lucky Strike by Pete Campbell over a deli lunch served by his wife, Trudie, Patron Saint of Awesome Hats.
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But I agree that this has Pete Campbell written all over it. "You know, Mr. Cooper, the Oriental* market is full of untapped potential."
* Not a descriptor I would use, but I'm fairly certain ol' Petey would.
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(This just reminded me that said loans have put me in the red this month; I may very well be eating my own hat for dinner!)
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@bluetrain84: I knew some good would come out of it!
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That'd be like having Twiggy all dolled up mod make-up, while wearing a Victorian dress and sporting a straw farmer's hat. Does not compute!
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And if an Asian woman wearing a mandarin collar in the '60s isn't a kimono, I'll eat my hat.
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@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): Lucky Strike is disrespectful to tar! Can you see I am serious! Get out of my way, all of you! This is no place for loafers. Join me or die. Can you do any less?
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There really is no way to tell what sort of human she would have become under different circumstances – but then is there ever? For all I know Betty would be just as boring in modern times, but last time I checked I didn't believe in feminism for some, or feminism for the nice, or feminism for friends only. #madmen
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Like, when Don says "You think you're better than everyone else" and "You're a whore" I feel like he really means those things about himself. It's that whole You-hate-in-others-what-is-true-about-yo... thing.
The baby crying, Betty in her pjs and Don in his suit... the kids will be better off with you, Don? You who often comes home drunk, if you come home at all? it just punctuated to me that all these terrible things he's saying about Betty, all the things people can possibly judge against Betty as character flaws... they're all Don's flaws.
Especially the life raft thing. Really, Don? And stealing someone's identity to get a new life is better than what Betty's doing? Projecting much?
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I don't think that I can agree with this statement. I don't see her as pouty and insolent as much as I see a defeated woman, hopeless, and trapped. The fire that we saw in the first season when she shot the birds burned because she still had dreams of what her family and life could be. And I think that she realized that her sleeping with the man at the bar in season two was not going to be a fix-all, although it may have been temporarily cathartic. Betty didn't have anything else to give in the end, and I think the writers wanted to illustrate that. #madmen
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This was clearest to me during the final epic argument between Betty and Don. He physically threw her around--very tacky regardless of what time you are living in--and she claimed he wasn't good enough for her. I think they've both been selfish and childish. Nobody is winning any contests. It's interesting that viewers treat this like a boxing match.
I noted that one of the quotes used was from TWoP, who inconsistently maintain a policy that forbids commenters from dissing or even actually addressing other commenters, particularly in a negative manner. Depending on who's running the thread, you can get dinged or even band for criticizing others on the board, even in an even-handed manner. Of course, again, it really depends on who takes notice. #madmen
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She lost the only person she trusted in the world. She kept trying the only way she knew, while her husband ignored her inner world, and treated her like an accessory. She finally gathered the courage to walk out. Why should a miserable woman be a good mother? Miserable people are not good anything. When Don feels miserable, he gets a two week sex holiday under the CA sun and a christening in the ocean. Betty? She gets to wait.
At this point, I hate Don. There is not part of that man that is not 100% self-absorbed. There is nothing he does that is not self-serving. And people around him keep falling for his charming ways. Every good thing he says or does comes with an ulterior motive. He walks all over people and then he apologizes. Ooops, it's the Don Draper magic, the problem is gone. As Sally said, he keeps saying things he doesn't mean. He has had no character development. He's still the fool he was in the first episode. #madmen
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