Oh Hailey. Unfortunately this isn't the drama of who will hostess the next sorority mixer, this is drama about the well being of 8 children. And though you are obscenely young for Jon, you are not a child, and this is not about you. Shut the fuck up, bitch. If you can't take the heat, dump the Ed Hardy wearing buffoon who can't conduct himself properly.
TLC owes this woman a talk show. No kids. Just Kate.
At this point, Kate needs to take care of 8 kids as a single working mom. Those kids need to be out of the spot light.
Kate has proven that she can speak to an audience, relate to middle america. Give her a chance, TLC.
And she needs a lot of money to support 8 children (even if the cut back on their fancy lifestyle). She's also going to need cash for the therapy those kids are going to need and to pay for a nasty divorce (and I don't doubt that John is going to prolong this for as long as possible).
These parents had better not touch their kids trust funds unless the alternative is the kids actually being homeless and out on the streets.
And they'd better do everything possible to make sure it doesn't come to that (I'm talking to you, John "I bought my girl friend a Porshe" Gosselin.
John fucking sucks. He is a selfish ass. What he's done to his kids and their mother is disgusting.
He and hilk ilk give a bad name to divorced dads everywhere.
Shameful.
I've never seen an episode of this show. I wish their could be some sort of ban on reality tv featuring children. Its not fair to the kids.
@pleppy: Wow. My therapist thinks I'm funny, but I'm not about to start telling people that (...oops). Especially considering your therapist is basically a person you pay to be nice to you. Obviously, it's more than that, but what's your therapist going to say: "You're a slime eel who somehow gets women to fawn over you despite your oozing douchiness and penchant for Ed Hardy" or "You're very charming."
I had to say that, sorry. And, well, I think he's been a douche all along but female villains are so much more fun that he got away with it while he was in front of TLC's cameras.
What's this bullshit about McDonald's? Kate was a registered nurse before the show, right? Why even throw Mickey D's out there, unless you're trying to garner sympathy - she has childcare, so she can just as easily resume her nursing career if it comes to that...also Kate's "bills" have to include payments on her new SUV, her spa dates, tanning appointments as well as whatever rent/mortgage she has to pay for her alternate living arrangements when she's not with the kids - I don't think that $200K was all their "liquidity" in the world anyway. They should both be ashamed of the way they're dragging each other through the mud.
@PrincesseTamTam: I think it's more an example of "I will do whatever I have to for my kids." Like once my mom said she would take a bullet for me - she doesn't literally expect to have to jump in front of a gun. It's just an expression of devotion.
I agree that her bills are much bigger than they need to be. But I don't think she actually means she would work at McDonalds. She's still got income from the books, speaking tours, etc. She just means she would make sacrifices for her kids.
Wow Hailey, the entire like world!
I know this is tangential to the point of being a threadjack, but I'm seeing red after Kate said that she and Jon didn't have money to pay bills after the sextuplets.
1) They had to have SOME money to be able to afford IVF. Kate has said they did IVF, not hormone therapy, because she had fibroids. No matter how fantastic either of their insurance was, IVF is tens of thousands of dollars per round.
2) Jon did not want to have more children after the twins. Kate wanted ONE MORE BABY. They did IVF and she chose to not selectively reduce. Her choice to have 6 children at once lead her to not be able to pay bills after the sextuplets.
3) It seems really unlikely that their joint account is how she is paying all of her bills. She has speaking fees, book signing fees, and a new TV show in the works. I know that they are still married but PA is not a joint property state. She earns money outside of what TLC pays them and should budget accordingly.
@agirlnamedstewart: Actually they have said several times they did NOT do IVF, and she has PCOS, not fibroids. They did medicated IUIs, which don't cost all that much.
I don't disagree that they shouldn't have had 6 kids if they couldn't afford them, but that ship has sailed. As to their current finances, it's not hard to believe they only had one big liquid account to pay bills from.
@Maritsa: Medicated IUIs depend on the good fertility drugs vs the ok fertility drugs.
Seems like the first go round, they have the ok drugs, i.e. clomid, and then the second round, went straight to the GOOD fertility drugs which automatically increases your chance of higher order multiples.
STILL COSTS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THE SECOND TYPE OF DRUGS.
Those babies did not come cheap. She may not have spent 12-15K, but she spent in the range of 3K to 5K.
@dangerslut: Why are you shouting, exactly? I'm well aware of the costs of various ART procedures. 3 to 5K can be put on a credit card by pretty much anyone with a good job, and they both worked. The fact that they could do that doesn't mean they had the money to pay for 6 more kids, as the OP argued - that was my point.
My heart did a double take when Kate mentioned how not being able to pay bills keeps you up at night...I'm in that same boat with no kids. I can't imagine being in that boat with Jon for a husband and 8 kids.
Also, "my therapist says I'm charming"...Really? You shouldn't say things like that out loud.
The issue here is not "where is Kate's book money? She's hiding funds! Kids are not THAT expensive!"
The issue is that Jon withdrew money from a joint account that a legal arbitrator ruled only Kate should have access to, and only for payment of household bills-with receipts. He will hopefully be ruled in contempt of court and have his ass thrown in jail...and any money Kate spends on lawyers preventing him from touching any of the kids' individual bank accounts is WELL spent.
@CelesteCachaa:
He can still have access to that account to pay his lawyers, which is how he's tee'd it up elsewhere in the press. She can w/draw to pay bills--he can also w/draw to pay an attorney. Pennsylvania is a community property state, right?
@dangerslut: No, it isn't. It's an equitable distribution state. Not that it matters here, where the real question is whether the withdrawal was a violation of the arbitrator's order.
I believe I need to shower after watching this. He's so slimy.
And really? A Marlboro Light? REALLY? I've never smoked a Marlboro Light that has looked like that.
I have had enough of these people and their bullshit. These two obviously had no idea when to stop playing for the tv show and exploiting themselves and the kids. Honestly, someone just whoop the fuck out of Jon and be done with it.
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At this point, Kate needs to take care of 8 kids as a single working mom. Those kids need to be out of the spot light.
Kate has proven that she can speak to an audience, relate to middle america. Give her a chance, TLC.
And she needs a lot of money to support 8 children (even if the cut back on their fancy lifestyle). She's also going to need cash for the therapy those kids are going to need and to pay for a nasty divorce (and I don't doubt that John is going to prolong this for as long as possible).
These parents had better not touch their kids trust funds unless the alternative is the kids actually being homeless and out on the streets.
And they'd better do everything possible to make sure it doesn't come to that (I'm talking to you, John "I bought my girl friend a Porshe" Gosselin.
John fucking sucks. He is a selfish ass. What he's done to his kids and their mother is disgusting.
He and hilk ilk give a bad name to divorced dads everywhere.
Shameful.
I've never seen an episode of this show. I wish their could be some sort of ban on reality tv featuring children. Its not fair to the kids.
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10/05/09
This is the best quote ever.
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They decided to be godly and birth 6 babies even though they lived on a meager income.
They decided to pimp their children and their strained marriage on national television.
They're both continuing to ham it up for the camera every chance they get instead of really making steps to repair their family.
I have no sympathy for those that sell their soul to the Devil aka the mighty dollar.
Also See: Jessica Simpson
10/05/09
That's a theory some of my mom's friends have floated recently, as one of their group was left by her husband for no reason with no warning.
I'm not a doctor. So I don't know if brain tumors can really lower the IQ to the extent we're seeing in Jon.
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10/05/09
And: Law and Order has taught me that either Jon, Kate or Hailey may meet unfortunate circumstances soon.
Thanks teevee!
10/05/09
I had to say that, sorry. And, well, I think he's been a douche all along but female villains are so much more fun that he got away with it while he was in front of TLC's cameras.
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I agree that her bills are much bigger than they need to be. But I don't think she actually means she would work at McDonalds. She's still got income from the books, speaking tours, etc. She just means she would make sacrifices for her kids.
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I'm sure that's what he heard.
I'm much more skeptical that's what the therapist said.
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10/05/09
I know this is tangential to the point of being a threadjack, but I'm seeing red after Kate said that she and Jon didn't have money to pay bills after the sextuplets.
1) They had to have SOME money to be able to afford IVF. Kate has said they did IVF, not hormone therapy, because she had fibroids. No matter how fantastic either of their insurance was, IVF is tens of thousands of dollars per round.
2) Jon did not want to have more children after the twins. Kate wanted ONE MORE BABY. They did IVF and she chose to not selectively reduce. Her choice to have 6 children at once lead her to not be able to pay bills after the sextuplets.
3) It seems really unlikely that their joint account is how she is paying all of her bills. She has speaking fees, book signing fees, and a new TV show in the works. I know that they are still married but PA is not a joint property state. She earns money outside of what TLC pays them and should budget accordingly.
10/05/09
10/05/09
I don't disagree that they shouldn't have had 6 kids if they couldn't afford them, but that ship has sailed. As to their current finances, it's not hard to believe they only had one big liquid account to pay bills from.
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Seems like the first go round, they have the ok drugs, i.e. clomid, and then the second round, went straight to the GOOD fertility drugs which automatically increases your chance of higher order multiples.
STILL COSTS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THE SECOND TYPE OF DRUGS.
Those babies did not come cheap. She may not have spent 12-15K, but she spent in the range of 3K to 5K.
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10/05/09
"They did medicated IUIs, which don't cost all that much. "
Because that's just not a true statement.
10/05/09
Also, "my therapist says I'm charming"...Really? You shouldn't say things like that out loud.
10/05/09
The issue is that Jon withdrew money from a joint account that a legal arbitrator ruled only Kate should have access to, and only for payment of household bills-with receipts. He will hopefully be ruled in contempt of court and have his ass thrown in jail...and any money Kate spends on lawyers preventing him from touching any of the kids' individual bank accounts is WELL spent.
10/05/09
He can still have access to that account to pay his lawyers, which is how he's tee'd it up elsewhere in the press. She can w/draw to pay bills--he can also w/draw to pay an attorney. Pennsylvania is a community property state, right?
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And really? A Marlboro Light? REALLY? I've never smoked a Marlboro Light that has looked like that.
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