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08/21/09
AND SD piling more misery on women who've already made a miserable decision (women rarely make this decision lightly). Is it any wonder I prefer animals?
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Edit: I am not suggesting that abortion is like the Holocaust, simply trying to point out the irony in people who do say abortion is like the Holocaust and Obama is like Hitler going on to express their approval of abortions (or deaths of those already alive) for only a certain group of people.
08/21/09
Whole: It is still developing and depending on the gestational stage, does not even have a fully developed set of internal organs, including a brain.
Separate: The fetus lives inside and off of the woman's body and is entirely dependent on it for survival. Separated from the woman, it cannot live independently. So a fetus cannot experience meaningful separation from the mother.
Unique: See above. Also, a fetus has no independent identity outside the woman. In fact, even an infant has no separate identity. That is a later stage of psychological development that won't begin to happen until long after birth, so it's really not at all relevant to the choice to terminate or not.
As for the notion of the fetus being "living," that is a more philosophical issue as to when life begins. But it is, as with many things in the abortion debate, a moral/ethical/philosophical/theological issue that has no consensus and should be left up to the individual to decide. Legislating morality is a bad, bad idea.
When you parse that statement down, you realize it has nothing to do with "informed consent." It's more like "misinformed coercion." Just as in the health care reform debate, I don't know how we are supposed to reason with blatant liars.
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GBfhinfejrges.
I don't think I can even type anything that expresses my anger here.
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that only stupid people are breeding
the cretins cloning and feeding
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It's funny, though, to find out where the pro-lifers break down, really, when it comes to which abortions are worse than others. Wish they'd asked about Mexican babies.
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@J.D.Regent: makes ME think of X-files!
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Fucking hell, I need a sandwich.
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All I'm saying is that there's plenty of precedent for people deciding what's moral, and imposing their views on the minority as law. It's kinda part of how society works. I'd love to smoke a joint right now, but I can't. That because past versions of our society impose a moral restriction on me through the laws they passed. I disagree strongly, but I obey. It's the law.
08/21/09
If the majority said that, say, sodomy should be illegal again, that doesn't make it okay to become law.
Mmrph. I don't think I'm explaining myself properly, but I think you get the gist of it.
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And there is also the clip of her on Fox rocking in her chair and squeeing about BABIES!!
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Analogy fail? I dunno. It's just such a butchering of the idea of informed consent to serve an agenda.
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I'd like him to keep talking. I'll really enjoy watching him trip himself up on this.
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