My boyfriend and I are both semi-refuseniks. My cell phone is about 6 years old and hardly on. I don't want to answer calls or listen to messages because they will probably be left by people who are annoyed by my lack of contact. It's become a cycle now. #cellphonerefuseniks
@sydbarrettsaves, emissary of hell: That's totally me, too. It's not that I don't like to talk to people, I just don't like to talk on the phone. I have a cellphone that I kind of keep charged, but I don't like using it. #cellphonerefuseniks
I'm a texting refusenik (unless you're sending me a number, street address, or name that I would have to write down anyhow, fucking call me!). But the only cell refusenik I know recently spent his 30th birthday waiting forlornly outside a restaurant, not knowing his friends had a table in an upstairs room, eventually sloping home to eat takeout with a cat.
Also, since on rereading my comment I think I glossed this too much: for me, dealing with the phone is tough, and stressful, and highly-anxiety-inducing. Just the idea of being able or expected to shift into phone mode any old time and place makes me very uncomfortable. Some of us don't think all phone conversation is "beneath them"; quite possibly, we're beneath it. That line rubbed me the wrong way, honestly. #cellphonerefuseniks
I agree that pretentious Luddite types are annoying as hell, however, I think one must have a very spoiled sense of entitlement to demand that everyone be reachable 24/7 and say that any one who isn't (who can afford to be) is an asshole. #cellphonerefuseniks
"be really hard to reach. That is, don't have a cell phone."
About this: people who don't have a cell phone aren't necessarily hard to reach.
If you have a landline, a phone number at work and an e-mail address, you're extremely easy to reach at least 22 hours a day. And if people are feeling pissy because they can't call you during your commute, or when you're having dinner outside, or you're at the movies, they should get a grip, leave a message and give you a couple of hours to call them back. Jesus.
I really don't know people who have neither a cell phone nor a landline, seriously. It's at least one of those, which means that when you can't reach them immediately when you want to at some point (Oh the humanity!), you can leave a message.) #cellphonerefuseniks
@Arginusae: Yes, this. The annoying thing is not the lack of a cell phone; it's the expectation that everyone should be instantly available at all times. There was a time when cell phones were not ubiquitous. Believe it or not, people survived, and even managed to do their jobs. Freaky, huh? #cellphonerefuseniks
One of my housemates is like this. It is SO FUCKING ANNOYING. (She's kind of a bizarre strain of neo-hippie: never turns the heat on, won't use the dryer, won't take aspirin because she doesn't like "putting drugs into my body" but will smoke marijuana.) She actually brags about her lack of cell phone as if it makes her some kind of higher life form, totally oblivious to the fact that, you know, someone might at some point want to contact her.
Not only that, but she keeps trying to convince all the rest of us that we don't need cell phones either.
Note: I'm not saying that everyone sans cell phone is like this, but this one person gets on my nerves. #cellphonerefuseniks
@Helen Valentine: Oooh, it's a horrible variation on the people who go, "Oh, I don't watch television. I don't even own one" and grin smugly. #cellphonerefuseniks
Eh, I don't have a cellphone but I'm not hard to reach. Email me, Facebook me or call my landline. I had a cell for a while but it was an enormous waste of money. I really don't understand how much different it is to have people call my landline. When I am away from home, I am usually at work (and then email is a way better bet for getting a hold of me) or dance, and my phone would be turned off in both places anyways. Or else I am already hanging out with my friends or family. I don't know, I just don't see the need to spend a ton of money on something that has proven to be pretty much unnecesary for my life. #cellphonerefuseniks
@Cerridwen: Same here - neither my husband or I have a cell phone because when we inspected our usage, it was mostly him (stay at home dad) calling me at work. We tended to forget our shared cellphone when we left the house. I can see how for some people's lifestyle, a cellphone would work better than a landline - in college, living in a shared flat and spending most of my time out at classes/cafes/library/pubs, it definitely did for me. I think the message here should be more about choosing to have technology that works for you, however wired up that may be. #cellphonerefuseniks
@jennyOH: I totally agree that choosing the right communication option for you is what is best. My partner actually is thinking of getting a cellphone because he works on-call at a group home and would like the phone to a) take shifts as they are available and b) be safe when he is out with the residents of the home. I, however, have no such uses for a cell. A landline saves me money and no one has ever complained about having difficulty reaching me. #cellphonerefuseniks
I don't have a cellphone because I can't afford one. It's not an effort to be cool, or annoying, or a refusenik. But thanks to this article and some of the comments, now I no longer care if people are annoyed by my landline-or-email only status. because I don't know if I want to be friends with people who are that judgmental and easily inconvenienced and irritated. What a bourgeois thing to complain about - other people not being able to afford something.
@Bunsen Honeydew: the article said that you wouldn't be classified a refusenik or trying to be cool or annoying. you simply cannot afford one. the point the author was trying to make was that people who can afford cellphones, or are not overly stressed in learning new technologies are the refuseniks (who are also trying to be cool, or annoying). #cellphonerefuseniks
@gobble_dee_goop: Yeah, okay. Reading the linked articles I realized I'm not as big of a pain as some of these people. I have a landline (Ten dolla!) and no one has had to make 3 way phone calls for a get together. I'm also very punctual because I'm hard to find after leaving the house. Something tells me the refuseniks would be annoying with a blackberry as well. #cellphonerefuseniks
Gregory Han says, "It's a luxury not to be reached when I'm out and about."
Dear Gregory,
You can just turn off the phone.
Love,
egg cream
I mean, I get that it's relaxing to disconnect -- last month, I went away to visit family, and during the week I was out of the city, I think I looked at my cell phone a total of two times. Half the time, I didn't even bother to bring it with me when I left the house. There's something to be said for just being on your own, with the people you're with, and no one else. But I didn't have to make some grand statement by rejecting cell phones and all they represent, and hand out a list of ways to contact me, to do that. All I had to do was not pick up my phone.
My 90 year-old grandfather has a cell phone, and has had one for like 8 years now - so everyone else can suck it up and figure it out. It's not difficult, so they need to stop freaking out about it.
The people who just refuse to have a cell phone make my life hell. I've had a situation arise where I sent a paralegal, who apparently didn't have a cell phone, to Court to file papers that had to be received by 5 p.m. that day. She got lost, but couldn't find a payphone to call me for awhile. Then when she got to Court, my papers were rejected (for erroneous reasons) and she had to leave the Courthouse and find a payphone down the street (she said she couldn't find one at Court) to call me and tell me about it. I was all "Put me on the phone with the clerk!" and she's all "I can't, I'm a block away." This would be at 4:50 p.m. At that point, I flipped out.
I also had a friend who didn't have a cell and once we couldn't find each other at the designated "meeting spot" and so I spent an hour looking for her. After I didn't find her, I went home. Thanks!
Cell phones aren't just for people who want to chat with their moms all day - it's a useful tool for everyday life. And when you don't own a cell phone, you actually fuck with other people's lives - and that ain't cool. #cellphonerefuseniks
@JinxyMcDeath: Question: Does your firm pay for staff's cell phones? If they are really a business necessity, then the firm ought to cover the cost. #cellphonerefuseniks
@Bunsen Honeydew: Y'know, I remember life before cell phones--in my case, prior to 1997--but for the life of me, I don't know how I survived. Seriously. #cellphonerefuseniks
@JinxyMcDeath: People who are flakey or unreliable or screw-ups will probably screw up with or without a cell phone. Sure, it's a useful tool but it's also not necessary for everybody. It sounds like it might be for your job, in which case your employers should probably make it requisite for the job and reimburse their employees. But for a lot of us? It's a waste of money. I pay literally five times more monthly for a cell phone than my landline. It's not necessary for my job and, so far, no one has accused me of "fucking with their life" by being reachable only through two email addresses, Facebook and a landline.
People reach me all the time - the same way they did a decade ago before cellphones were ubiquitous. #cellphonerefuseniks
@Bunsen Honeydew: Well, 100 years ago we walked to California with cattle and caulked wagons over rivers. That doesn't mean we forgo cars/planes and walk still just because we did it back then. We've moved on. It's easier for EVERYONE to have a car/take a plane, and it's easier to have a cell phone.
@scootermom: As an associate, I have no say about that sort of thing nor do I think asking the firm to pay for cellphones for their paralegals will go over well when they won't even pay for its own lawyers to have blackberries. That doesn't make the paralegals issue any less MY problem. #cellphonerefuseniks
Ever since I got one, I've loved having a cell phone. Then, this week, my phone was stolen from me. Right out of my hand! So I was without one for a couple of days, and really? It wasn't a big deal. I didn't rely on the cell phones of others--except when I called the police to report the crime. I was worried that not having a phone would make me feel weird and alone and disconnected, but really those fears were relieved when I bought a wristwatch.
I got a new phone; we don't have a landline and I don't care to get one installed, but I definitely feel less attached to it.
Oh wait. I said that I only used someone else's phone to call the police? I forgot about those times I went to pay phones and called all my friends, using all their daytime minutes, to gossip. Disregard! #cellphonerefuseniks
@kithkin: I lost mine on my wedding night about six weeks ago (hey, I was distracted!) and went about bonkers until I got a new one. Everyone who needed to reach me could call Mr. Pietra's phone, but I felt completely naked without it.
I also slept with a blankie until I was far too old, so there may be some residual psychological issues going on here. #cellphonerefuseniks
Ugh, this is ridiculous. I have a cell phone as my only phone, but pretty much everywhere I am, there's another one. Should people really be REQUIRED to have cell phones on top of home phones, work phones, phones they can ask to use?
I'm so tired of this totally pointless sense of immediacy in our culture - not everything is an emergency, no, I don't need to answer your phone call while I'm driving. In the past, people managed to hold on to messages until the person they needed got home, people managed to make plans in advance rather than just being like, "Just call me when you're free," and frankly, if I have to honk at another asshole who's too busy texting to see that the light has been green for ten seconds, I'm going to piss my pants.
Whatever happened to just living in the moment? Why do we have to have this surrogate comfort latched onto our ears every time we have a free minute? The world has not changed; we have - and to expect everyone to live up to our new arbitrary rules is bogus. #cellphonerefuseniks
@rixatrix: I completely agree. Don't expect to reach me at any hour of the day and don't freak out that I don't call you back within two hours (sometimes a day!!!). Contrary to popular belief, people lived well before the age of the cell phone! #cellphonerefuseniks
@rixatrix: I don't care if people have a cell phone or not - but when there is no other way to really get a hold of them (like a landline) it gets to be an issue.
Also, some jobs do require cells, or are at least greatly made easier by them. It might have been different when payphones were everywhere, but that is no longer the case. #cellphonerefuseniks
@Elaken: But there is a difference between people who refuse to get cell phones (a "want") and people who refuse to be available for communicating in any capacity. To expect everyone to treat the luxury of a cell phone as a necessity, simply because the complainant finds it inconvenient to not be able to get what they want right away, is just inexcusable.
Yeah, I have a cell phone, but you know, I've realized that in the future, a land line would cost a lot less each month. And there's always Skype, e-mail, pay-as-you-go phones. But all of those choices are my choices and I don't want to be villified for how I choose to spend my money, you know? No one should put those kinds of standards on people - it's just not cool. Where's Dave Ramsey? He'll back me up. #cellphonerefuseniks
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About this: people who don't have a cell phone aren't necessarily hard to reach.
If you have a landline, a phone number at work and an e-mail address, you're extremely easy to reach at least 22 hours a day. And if people are feeling pissy because they can't call you during your commute, or when you're having dinner outside, or you're at the movies, they should get a grip, leave a message and give you a couple of hours to call them back. Jesus.
I really don't know people who have neither a cell phone nor a landline, seriously. It's at least one of those, which means that when you can't reach them immediately when you want to at some point (Oh the humanity!), you can leave a message.) #cellphonerefuseniks
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Not only that, but she keeps trying to convince all the rest of us that we don't need cell phones either.
Note: I'm not saying that everyone sans cell phone is like this, but this one person gets on my nerves. #cellphonerefuseniks
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Dear Gregory,
You can just turn off the phone.
Love,
egg cream
I mean, I get that it's relaxing to disconnect -- last month, I went away to visit family, and during the week I was out of the city, I think I looked at my cell phone a total of two times. Half the time, I didn't even bother to bring it with me when I left the house. There's something to be said for just being on your own, with the people you're with, and no one else. But I didn't have to make some grand statement by rejecting cell phones and all they represent, and hand out a list of ways to contact me, to do that. All I had to do was not pick up my phone.
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Basically, I can be available 24 hours a day, but I don't have to be. #cellphonerefuseniks
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The people who just refuse to have a cell phone make my life hell. I've had a situation arise where I sent a paralegal, who apparently didn't have a cell phone, to Court to file papers that had to be received by 5 p.m. that day. She got lost, but couldn't find a payphone to call me for awhile. Then when she got to Court, my papers were rejected (for erroneous reasons) and she had to leave the Courthouse and find a payphone down the street (she said she couldn't find one at Court) to call me and tell me about it. I was all "Put me on the phone with the clerk!" and she's all "I can't, I'm a block away." This would be at 4:50 p.m. At that point, I flipped out.
I also had a friend who didn't have a cell and once we couldn't find each other at the designated "meeting spot" and so I spent an hour looking for her. After I didn't find her, I went home. Thanks!
Cell phones aren't just for people who want to chat with their moms all day - it's a useful tool for everyday life. And when you don't own a cell phone, you actually fuck with other people's lives - and that ain't cool. #cellphonerefuseniks
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For me it's cell phone or groceries. I choose eating. Not everyone is just not as smart as your grandpa. #cellphonerefuseniks
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People reach me all the time - the same way they did a decade ago before cellphones were ubiquitous. #cellphonerefuseniks
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@scootermom: As an associate, I have no say about that sort of thing nor do I think asking the firm to pay for cellphones for their paralegals will go over well when they won't even pay for its own lawyers to have blackberries. That doesn't make the paralegals issue any less MY problem. #cellphonerefuseniks
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I got a new phone; we don't have a landline and I don't care to get one installed, but I definitely feel less attached to it.
Oh wait. I said that I only used someone else's phone to call the police? I forgot about those times I went to pay phones and called all my friends, using all their daytime minutes, to gossip. Disregard! #cellphonerefuseniks
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I also slept with a blankie until I was far too old, so there may be some residual psychological issues going on here. #cellphonerefuseniks
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I'm so tired of this totally pointless sense of immediacy in our culture - not everything is an emergency, no, I don't need to answer your phone call while I'm driving. In the past, people managed to hold on to messages until the person they needed got home, people managed to make plans in advance rather than just being like, "Just call me when you're free," and frankly, if I have to honk at another asshole who's too busy texting to see that the light has been green for ten seconds, I'm going to piss my pants.
Whatever happened to just living in the moment? Why do we have to have this surrogate comfort latched onto our ears every time we have a free minute? The world has not changed; we have - and to expect everyone to live up to our new arbitrary rules is bogus. #cellphonerefuseniks
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Also, some jobs do require cells, or are at least greatly made easier by them. It might have been different when payphones were everywhere, but that is no longer the case. #cellphonerefuseniks
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Yeah, I have a cell phone, but you know, I've realized that in the future, a land line would cost a lot less each month. And there's always Skype, e-mail, pay-as-you-go phones. But all of those choices are my choices and I don't want to be villified for how I choose to spend my money, you know? No one should put those kinds of standards on people - it's just not cool. Where's Dave Ramsey? He'll back me up. #cellphonerefuseniks