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12/15/09
#1 - Christina Applegate - bad outfit, yes, but more boring than any other more serious offense.
#4 looks like her stretch pants were so tight she had an "accident"
#10 - Divine will get you, girl!! And technically, what the hell is that anyway - a camel-toe?, a vagina?, a pudendum?, a Georgia O'Keefe forgery? or misplaced Rorschach test?
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Except #10 because vulva never goes out of style. And his suit is lovely.
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#groupthink
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#groupthink
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This population does not buy these "bridge and contemporary" priced clothes with near the frequency of our smaller friends. Why? A couple of reasons. 1) Many women feel they don't "deserve" nice clothing because they are too fat. These women have gone into too many clothing stores and been told "sorry, we don't have anything big enough for you" and decided to give up. 2) I often hear, I will buy those designer jeans when I lose 20 pounds. Again, women feel they don't deserve to look and feel good so they don't buy the clothes that do exist to flatter their bodies.
My goal is to change the perception that women have of their bodies and to make women realize that they should flaunt it and feel proud of who they are. Women can be beautiful, put together and stylish at any size, they just need to realize it and put in the effort.
I don't want this to be a big ad for my store, rather just my rampage about the treatment of larger women in general.
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12/14/09
People often assume I have no empathy for plus-size women because I'm relatively thin. But petite (and there is such a thing as petite plus-size) women have the nightmare of trying to find clothes cut on a smaller scale. I'm aware of many of the places that do so, but... I still can't buy their stuff in most stores. If I do, it's more expensive- which makes no sense because it's less fabric.
Just look at the joke that was the most recent season of ANTM. It's a joke anyway, but I haven't seen a model under 5'4" on a runway, in a magazine, or any place except a Gap Kids ad. Headway is being made with weight acceptance, I wish some would be made with actual size acceptance.
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For one thing, breasts are still made of fat, even though a big rack is more socially acceptable than, say, a big can. I'm sick of hearing the reasons why particular people need larger clothes/seats/etc. Even if someone is lazy, even if they're fat because they're evil and god is punishing them, they fucking deserve to wear clothing.
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[sarcastic]
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But I think that there's a reason you will hear people say "I'm plus size, but I'm not fat, I just have huge boobs" but you would never say "I just have a huge gut that stays the same size no matter how much weight I lose. It's nutty that I wear plus-size clothes even though I'm not fat"
Not only is a woman who carries her fat in her breasts more socially acceptable than a woman who carries it around her middle, the word "fat"(and the phrase "plus size") has baggage that people try(usually unconsciously) to distance themselves from.
12/14/09
It reminds me of when we threw a bonerkiller party on the D.E.N.N.I.S. page, one of them told us to go back to Jezebel where everyone thinks exactly the same and we can have the groupthink we so enjoy. It happens all the time at Gawker, too. They never realize how ironic it is.
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Clearly, it's a conspiracy to keep them down. Curses!
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I was hoping to get some tips on cool clothing manufacturers (like Anthro or Boden or even Delia's) but for a bigger size. Guess I continue to live in a dream world. Sigh.
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I'm fairly certain that's how they think of themselves. Outside of the awesome lingerie department, shopping at LB is an exercise in self-esteem destruction.
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Yes, we all have trouble finding clothes that fit us perfectly, but I thought the point of this post was to discuss the systematic discrimination against fat women by the fashion industry and society as a whole. I wish we could have a conversation about this without belittling the experiences of fat women by saying "I’m a size and I have the same problem!" I’m sorry, but it is NOT the same experience.
/rant
12/14/09
See also: Not Every Post is About YOU.
12/14/09
Not a rant. I feel bwichy whenever I point this out to someone (which I kinda did downthread and did on the opera post), but the matter is it doesn't contribute to the convo at hand and belittles the issue being discussed.
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This is not the place for me to bring up how I have to hem new pants because what I have to deal with compared to what fat women deal with is not even remotely the same!
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Did it occur to you that the goal here is not about fostering community, but about lack of empowerment of a marginalized group? This discussion is for their benefit.
12/14/09
And exactly which Jezebel threads are about "fostering community" anymore? All I ever see is a litany of complaints against people Jezebelles are better than. I would think a feminist blog, of all places, would understand that not every woman has the same thoughts about every topic.
12/14/09
A few points:
Oppression is more than just intent; it is also outcome.
This conversation should not be based around making straight-sized people feel comfortable, the center of attention, coddled, whatever. It's NOT about them.
There have been comments in this post that are objectionable because they derail an important conversation away from the topic at hand and onto irrelevant personal issues. It's not a matter of disagreeing, but rather pointing out that members of the privileged or majority group should realize that complaining about their problems in a post such as this is insensitive.
I'm not sure where you get the idea that I think we must all agree (or that I'm responsible for an overall tone at this blog that you dislike).
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I am a straight-sized woman, and part of the reason I read threads like this is because they are an opportunity for me to educate myself and hopefully become a better ally to plus-sized women. When the conversation is derailed and co-opted by a privileged group, not only does it serve to further marginalize an already marginalized group, it actually makes it harder for the disadvantaged group to be heard by those who do want to learn and help.
So...in that sense, sometimes "fostering community" just means listening.
12/14/09
All I'm saying, and trust me, I realize no one will hear it this way, is that the reaction to a misguided straying from the topic at hand doesn't have to be "How DARE you!" followed by a lecture on "privilege" that would have seemed heavy-handed to my freshman sociology prof. Personally I feel like talking about the fashion industry's mistreatment of all women would be a fair sight more constructive than carving our gender up into little groups and declaring who may and may not mention their appearance. But then I guess if we did that, how would we know who we were better than?
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Women who take themselves seriously prove that you cannot take women seriously, while women who do not take themselves seriously should absolutely not be taken seriously. QED, ho's.
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I have found all these sites to be helpful at one time or another. From the basic to the unique, I can usually find what I need. For the women who have just graduated to a 16, you might want to try a 14. Plus size cuts are generally more generous with the inches. Happy shopping. I hope this helps.