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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    12:31 PM

    In reply to Anderson Cooper Is Addicted To Crack... Pie
    Team Pie!

    Heh.
    *tries not to look smug*
    *fails*
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    12:33 PM

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: Noooooo! You're also the enemy?

    Rafa Nadal is Team Weird Cake!!
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    Image of I, Zombie Normal I, Zombie Normal
    12:27 PM

    In reply to Anderson Cooper Is Addicted To Crack... Pie
    Crack Pie? Whatever, I'm gonna go freebase some cake.
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    12:25 PM

    In reply to Anderson Cooper Is Addicted To Crack... Pie
    Heh. Eat your hearts out, Team Cake.

    Team Pie forever!
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    12:25 PM

    In reply to Anderson Cooper Is Addicted To Crack... Pie
    Starbuck would so be Team Cake.
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    Image of NerD: Blattella NerD: Blattella
    12:31 PM

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): I think she would jump the fence depending on which had the most alcohol in it.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    12:24 PM

    In reply to Anderson Cooper Is Addicted To Crack... Pie
    OMG, OMG! Anderson Cooper watches BSG? This multiples my already insane amount of love for him by 100.
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    Image of EdnasEdibles EdnasEdibles
    12:30 PM

    @MargaretMoony: I read an interview with him once where he mentioned he tivo'ed My Super Sweet 16 and Tiara Girls and would sit and watch all of them in one weekend. I like his viewing habits.
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    11:56 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    THIS IS MY COLLEGE. Not literally. Well, maybe.

    We are one of the top binge-drinking schools in the nation. The reservations near us push that number up, because unemployment is near 75% on one of them. Who could blame someone for wanting a drink at that point in time?

    We had a huge celebration a few years back because binge drinking dropped 4%. It went from 59% to 54% or something like that.

    Every single year, some drunk person will freeze to death, fall in the river and drown, or die in some horrible way that more than likely could have been prevented.

    I have almost no friends up here, because I decided to stop drinking so much. Now, there's nothing to do. I have about two friends. One, I hang out with constantly, and he's great, but I know he wants to go out and drink. He just doesn't want to "abandon" me on weekends. I guess I don't really argue with that.

    I hate that alcohol is so easy to abuse, and that when you tell someone you don't want to drink 4-5 nights a week, you are the weird one.

    I hate watching things like this, because it's everyone I know. I hate how the power balance shifts when it's alcohol. When it's hard drugs, you can get a rally behind you. When it's alcohol, no one wants to do anything until it's a death spiral.
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    Image of LostTurntable LostTurntable
    11:44 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    When I was in college I never drank, most of my friends never drank. In fact MOST college students don't get shitfaced every weekend. But you don't hear about that. I'm sure that stat is dead right.
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    Image of marshmallory marshmallory
    11:46 AM

    @LostTurntable: I think it depends on the college, because where I went to school, most everyone I knew got drunk at least two or three nights a week. It all comes down to the culture of the school and whether or not partying is a huge part of the college experience there.
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    Image of slowpoke.r slowpoke.r
    12:08 PM

    @LostTurntable: I agree. Even though I drank in college, just because all the people I knew were doing so as well doesn't mean that we were typical. We just assumed we were, because that's what we were doing. Looking back I realize that there were a ton of people I saw in classes that I never saw out at pub or at parties.

    I live now in a college city (Bahston) and though the drunk carouser student is the most visible student by far, they definitely seem to be the minority. They're just a very loud, very visible, very annoying minority.
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    Image of msAnthrope msAnthrope
    11:26 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    I am so fascinated how people choose their addiction, in the sense that some people will choose alcohol; others cigarettes; illegal drugs; prescription drugs.

    Although some people probably mix a few so they always have "something" at hand, there have to be others who don't get the same effect from anything other than the specific substance. I wonder if there's any research into the "why" of the brain clicking with a specific substance?
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    Image of margareita metermaid margareita metermaid
    11:37 AM

    @msAnthrope: As an addict that always had a particular drug I chose and never used other things (like alcohol) to replace it, I am also really interested in why people choose what they do (or are simply drawn to what they use) over other substances. I always hated being lumped into the 'addict' group, when I felt quite different from an alcoholic or cocaine user. Maybe if more research was done on this, they could figure out ways to help particular addicts sort out their attachments to their drug of choice. In other words, I haven't seen much research to this end, but I think it could be really helpful.
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    Image of msAnthrope msAnthrope
    11:48 AM

    @margareita metermaid:

    You and I are likely the same. For me it was a prescription painkiller. It was 20+ years before I got this under control, and during that time nothing else gave me the same up, outgoing, self-satisfied feeling.

    It didn't help that I began using it for a legitimate pain issue, which made it harder for me to admit I had a problem. It wasn't until I looked at the very wide scope of feelings I labeled as "pain" to justify taking the medication before I realized I substituted the pills for reality.

    Also, physical withdrawal symptoms have a way of making physical addiction a very real issue.
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    Image of Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini
    11:51 AM

    @margareita metermaid: That is really an interesting question. I am the sort of person that became addicted to anything and liked it all, so now that I am in recovery, I can't touch anything, not a pill, powder, or drop of alcohol, because it all hooks me. I've also had issues with eating disorders and I am convinced it is all related to the same biology. I wonder what is different about our brains that would make our experience with addiction so different.
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    Image of Janky Janky
    11:58 AM

    @msAnthrope: I think maybe it just has to do with what you feel you're missing in life, and what the drug gives you in return. Like some food addicts (mainly speaking me) might feel like they're missing comfort and love and so thats why they choose food over say cocaine, because food gives you that happy and warm feeling. But then some people just want to opt-out of their current situation so they don't have to deal with anything at all so they may choose a different drug that makes them feel like they're in a haze and not present, or they choose one that makes them feel like a different person.

    I mean I know there's WAY more to it, and it's different for everyone, but that could be a part of it.
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    12:00 PM

    @msAnthrope: We are similar! Yes, prescription painkillers were/are my vice too, with occasional harder opiate abuse when I was younger. I am also just getting my addiction under control after years of taking pills and functioning (at times) quite well. Very few people ever knew I was on drugs, and only because I told them. It seems this kind of behavior differs pretty wildly from someone who is drunk all the time or smoking crack or something...and yes, the physical withdrawals DO make it an incredibly real and painful scenario. At one point when I was getting clean, and my father was going through a liver treatment (interferon) and an aunt was going through a rigorous cancer treatment, we compared symptoms, and they are were SO similar-- to the point of being basically the same feelings/struggles, even emotionally and mentally.
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    Image of MagentaOpel MagentaOpel
    12:06 PM

    @msAnthrope: At first I bristled at your use of the word 'choice', but it is a choice; the alcohol abuse is a symptom of something more that is wrong with me, and I chose alcohol to make that feeling go away. I chose alcohol and cigarettes because it was legal for me. Any other drugs and I wouldn't know how my body would react - or really trust what's in them.
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    12:06 PM

    @Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: I definitely had a time in my younger days when I was more like this-- I would try to quit my drug of choice (which was always opiates) and if I ever used something else, it would send me relapsing-- but right back to opiates. I never had an eating disorder per se, but definitely have a bit of body dysmorphia (though I fear it may be more typical than disordered?) Anyway, now I know that if I use any other substance (I can have a few drinks every now and then, but I cant get drunk) it will send me straight back to the pills. But yeah, it really does make me question how addicts are grouped into one big lump and makes me wonder about the differences in brain chemistry as well.
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    Image of msAnthrope msAnthrope
    12:19 PM

    @Janky:

    That makes a lot of sense to me, actually. At least for my addiction to painkillers, which made me very outgoing, talkative... traits I don't normally have but envy in others.
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    12:23 PM

    @MagentaOpel:

    I know, I hesitated when I wrote "choice" because it could be misunderstood what I meant. Perhaps more accurately, what I meant was, what substance we gravitate to... and of course not with the intention of becoming an addict.

    For example, even though alcohol is legal, I've never liked to drink. It just didn't turn on the places in my brain that made me want it more. But, with prescription pain medication, that seemed to "stroke" my brain immediately.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11:23 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    This was much harder to watch than that one episode of Intervention about the chocoholic.
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11:24 AM

    @morninggloria: Let's not even discuss what bodily process she examined for traces of the chocolate dragon.
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    11:32 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: This makes that one time that my friends accosted me at a pricey boutique and instructed me, panicked, that I needed a shopping intervention and should shop at TJ Maxx instead look like a cake walk.
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11:34 AM

    @morninggloria: And I thought I lost my receipt but you'll never guess where I found it!
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    Image of bluebears bluebears
    11:36 AM

    @morninggloria: Sometimes I watch WE Secret Lives of Women series and every time they have women with shopping addictions I just shudder with terror. My cheap ass cannot take it.
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    Image of Ms. Take Ms. Take
    11:23 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    It's seeing people like this that makes me so angry when so many college students brag or joke about being an alcoholic.

    Excessive alcohol consumption does not make you an alcoholic, and being an alcoholic does not make you cool. It is the constant need for alcohol and feeling that you can not live your life without it that makes you an addict, among other things. Why would anyone aspire to have this life?
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11:22 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    First of all: Did that say seven liters of vodka?

    Second: I can't watch the clips from my corner of the sweatshop. How is she still enrolled in school? I say this because, at my younger brother's college, if you're even suspected of having a drink and are on campus, they breathalize you. And if you're drunk, they take you to the hospital to have your stomach pumped. (Which all sounds insane to me, unless you have alcohol poisoning.)

    And by suspected, I mean...if you even are walking around with a smile on your face (as was the case with my brother's sober friend), they breathalize you.
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    Image of NellMood NellMood
    11:25 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: Oh my god, where does your brother go to school? That's ridiculous.
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    11:26 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: Holy shit, where does your brother go to school?
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    Image of quatrevingtquatre quatrevingtquatre
    11:26 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: Yeah at my university, the campus police would hang out outside the freshman dorms (or alternatively, on Greek row, where we had these really terrible steep sidewalks that helped with snow plowing, but people fell off them when they were drunk) waiting for people to come by, and if you had a WIFF of booze on your breath, you got breathalized. At minimum, you got an MIC or MIP, and then you'd end up with an alcohol infraction. The worst would be a trip to Student Death/Health and Wellness services for a stomach pump. And then you ended up with a strike on your record. 3 strikes before 21 and you got kicked out of school.

    My friends and I remained absolutely quiet for the entire length of our walks home until we hit 21.
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11:28 AM

    @bananaballs: @NellMood: Kutztown U.
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    11:30 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: For real?! My little sister went there. I'll have to ask her about that. Although, I hear the problem in Kutztown has a lot more to do with the weed hook up and the Amish cocaine ring (yes, it's an actual thing)
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    11:33 AM

    @quatrevingtquatre: What pains me about situations like those, is that it's totally not a case of "Hey, we're looking out for ya!" Nope. It reeks of "We are avoiding lawsuits!"

    I'm bothered by the health implications of medically unnecessary stomach pumping. But I'm also bothered by it being recorded on a transcript.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11:33 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: At my school, they'd breathalyze you, and if you weren't drunk, they'd kick you out.
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    11:35 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: Really, I went to Kutztown! When I was there, it was no alcohol on campus, but no one was going to mess with you if you were just a little drunk. Or even wasted. I'm fascinated now. Although, it seems like one of those stories you would have heard that wasn't really true.
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11:37 AM

    @lastsinglestanding: I knew about the weed hookup, so I figured they'd be more concerned about that. But did not know about the Amish cocaine ring!
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    Image of w33kdays w33kdays
    11:39 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: Whoa, whoa. Whoa. Just. Whoa.

    Could it hurt the student if he or she got his or her stomach pumped?

    We have a strict "dry campus" rule where your body is considered a container so even if you are 21, have a drink in a bar, and walk onto campus, they can discipline you. If they started doing this, there would be NO WAY the school could maintain a student body.

    I've had a nice chat with a cop after drinking a bit. I've seen a lot of them just talk with obviously yet genial drunk students. Off campus at least.
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11:43 AM

    @lucyjae: I think it's gotten a lot stricter since my stoner ex went there. My brother brought home his list of campus rules and I just couldn't believe that this was the same place where said stoner ex routinely interrupted the girls' field hockey practice by streaking across the field.
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    Image of PerinealFavorite PerinealFavorite
    11:45 AM

    @morninggloria: I think we went to the same school. My school also reportedly (by a very reliable urban legand and this one dude's friend who totally works in a hospital) has its own strain of herpes. Wonder if the two had anything to do with each other?
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    11:45 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck:
    Yeah it really was terrible, and the only reason they started it was because my school made it onto Playboy's Top 10 party schools. So the year before I started, they imported a President from BYU who started all these ridiculous rules. I went to school in the middle of BFE, the nearest town with a population of more than 50,000 is 90 minutes away. The school is pretty self-contained, there was little to no drunk driving because we didn't have commuters or anything. And God only knows how, but if you got an infraction while at home/during breaks? You still got a strike on your record.
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    11:45 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: They must not be publicizing the new rules on their website. Jerks. Tell your brother to move to The Cliffs.
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    Image of bluebears bluebears
    11:46 AM

    @morninggloria: yuk yuk yuk
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11:48 AM

    @lucyjae: He's actually thinking about moving off-campus with some buddies for next year (his sophomore year). Can the public safety folks do this??
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11:52 AM

    @PerinealFavorite: I was just joking around.

    The only people who had sex at my school were the varsity athletes and the seniors who had finally foresaken Catholicism. That's why we had to be drunk all the time, to deal with all of the sexual frustration.
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11:53 AM

    @PerinealFavorite: I couldn't help but read this and think of this show called 3 South. It was a cartoon that briefly aired on Mtv sometime in 2004, about a university that was so awful that they paid a student to invent a super stomach pump in order to gain publicity (and sober up the student populus so they could get drunk again).

    Am I the only person who remembered that?
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    Image of lucyjae lucyjae
    11:57 AM

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: You'd think they wouldn't be able to, but they always seemed a little bored and over enthusiastic about their work. You can always refuse to be breathalized, and if they take you to the hospital for a blood test and you aren't drunk, I'm pretty sure a shit storm could ensue.

    Hmm, it was traditional to move off-campus junior year while I was there. But, since President Cevallos took over, there's been a shift toward making it a more campus-oriented school. I personally can't take a man who sounds like Fez from That 70s Show too seriously.

    They even tore down our beloved tree houses to make way for more dorms and the Alumni Plaza.

    The Cliffs are generally shit holes, but part of college is living in a crappy place I guess. And, it's generally accepted among alums that you didn't really go to KU unless you lived there. I'm sure there are great off-campus places to live still. It's a shame the place is so strict now, I really did have a fantastic time in college. And I got good grades.
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    Image of Mary McCarthyite Mary McCarthyite
    11:17 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    Watching Jennifer chug those drinks in the clips reminded me of Malcolm Lowry's book Under the Volcano. Has anyone read the book and/or seen the movie? The main character is an unabashed dipsomaniac who hides liquor all over his house and "drinks to get sober." It was hard to watch those clips, especially after learning how her poor brother died. Just awful.
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    11:51 AM

    @Mary McCarthyite: Albert Finney was great in it. One of my favorite dive tequila bars in Manhattan was named Under the Volcano as well, but it, unfortunately, closed down.
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    11:57 AM

    @ozu: He was great in the movie, and he does the same thing that Jennifer does, chugging drinks without even caring what they contain. It's like a blind, oblivious fulfillment of a craving. (Aside: I didn't know that bar closed!)
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    Image of la.donna.pietra la.donna.pietra
    11:13 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    And here I thought that bit in True Blood about the alcoholic mother drinking her own vomit was over-the-top melodrama. I lead a sheltered life.
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    Image of EdnasEdibles EdnasEdibles
    11:09 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    I think she had problems long before her brother died. Her family seemed to use that as an excuse but I think she had issues that predated his death. But their way of dealing with the death didn't seem terribly healthy. Mom admitted that she liked to pretend he was just at his dad's house and both parents seemed to regard him as some sort of Perfect Angel which is probably hard for her to deal with.
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    11:51 AM

    @EdnasEdibles: Yeah, that struck me the same way. Obviously, the death of someone close to you, especially someone young, will fuck you up and rarely anyone deals with it well. I think it just accelerated whatever was already happening.

    They only hugged once, ever? That doesn't spell "healthy" to me, but then again, if they didn't really live together, then I suppose it's not that bad.
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    Image of Penny Penny
    11:08 AM

    In reply to Intervention: The Difference Between Binge Drinking And Alcoholism
    For some reason, the alcoholics shown on this show disturb me the most. Something about drinking in such excess seems incredibly violent and, for whatever reason, particularly heart-wrenching.
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    Image of PaigeTurner PaigeTurner
    11:20 AM

    @Penny: I agree. It's easier for me to see a bit of myself in them. That's pretty terrifying.

    With drinking, it can be nearly impossible to see when you've crossed a personal limit, particularly when one is using alcohol to numb painful emotions. It is definitely chilling to know that in the face of extreme emotional turmoil, it may not be so unrealistic to turn out like Jennifer.
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