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Does Carl Jung Still Matter?
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Mon Nov 9
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It was the section on the qualities of the animus/anima that did it.
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Also, Jung is why the first 3 Star Wars movies made were so awesome, so we always have to thank him for that.
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Totally. And also just because Jungian therapy/analysis didn't work for me doesn't mean it wouldn't work for other people, or that his ideas aren't interesting in a non-therapeutic context (such as Star Wars).
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Does Jung matter now? Probably not. Jung's work with dreams is "bullshit" because it was someone's interpretation of a century-old philosophy (Kant was active at the end of the 18th century). Nonetheless the Red Book could be a compelling document to see how Jung practiced what he preached.
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I'm with you on the opinion about dream analysis. The anti-Semitic charges also bother me, somewhat. And I can't help thinking that because he was Jung, the "voices" were OK and he used them in his research but if it was someone else, they would have given them electroshock treatment.
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I prefer psychodynamic work because it's awesome to see people get in touch with their anger, insecurity and fear, and see them learn how to reflect on their emotions and identity without getting caught in an emotional storm. Studies show that the number one factor in whether someone will benefit from therapy is their relationship with their therapist, rather than the modality.
Modern psychodynamics can be really flexible and inclusive. I like Jung's idea about the shadow, for example: the idea that things we judge in other people are emotions we feel as well but supress because they're intolerable, and the more you can't see it in yourself, the more judgmental and angry you are at the world. That's awesome!
/I'm a huge nerd
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Different years, though. I'm not 134 years old.
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Also he is basically the founder of art therapy. Jung is pretty relevant still, believe me.
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Best moment:
Student: "Mrs. X, I dreamed I had sex with a condor."
Mrs. X: "That's very wise!"
This was at a Catholic girls school, by the way.
Regardless, I personally support making room for mythology and the irrational, whatever that means to individuals. But I never got over "Hero With A Thousand Faces," so.
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Your teacher sounds AWESOME.
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To your other point: we live in a culture that is afraid to be anything but hyper-rational, I think. Which is its own form of absurdity -- I think of Sartre, too -- because how the eff are you ever supposed to actually judge what is "rational"....plus, we're not necessarily rational creatures to begin with.
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I rarely remember my dreams well enough to analyze them, but Louie Armstrong cooked me a cauliflower omelet in my dream last night and told me that it was because I have daddy issues. I completely disagreed.
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Last night I had a dream that I was late to my college graduation (which occurred in 2005) because I was having a C-section and right afterwards I had to race to take my bed apart and then run across a field to try to find where the orchestra was playing "Pomp and Circumstance."
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don't be embarassed! that's what works for some of us. tarot, astrology and archetypes work far better for me than going to a therapist. i like the symbolism, it helps me understand myself and others better than psychology's often narrow classifications of good vs. bad or healthy vs. unhealthy. i think it actually allows for more individuality without classifying people so scientiffically coldly. (hope that makes sense.)
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Research shows that analysis does not produce results; it can, in fact, make depressed people worse. CBT works, especially when combined with SSRIs. Even if my insurance would pay for years of analysis, I'd rather go with the method that will actually improve my mental state.