A few near-universally-acknowledged truths emerged from Netflix’s hit docuseries Making a Murderer: our criminal justice system is corrupt and dysfunctional, Dean Strang and Jerry Buting are passionate, hard-working men, and district attorney Ken Kratz is an asshole.

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Since the release of the series, Kratz has spoken to several publications about elements he feels were misleading or misinformation. On Tuesday, Gothamist joined the pack and posted a video of a conversation between Kratz and comedian Jena Friedman.

“I was a dick,” Kratz says upfront. “Some of that was bravado that was necessary for the presentation of the case, but some of that was me. And I think it’s important that people understand that I’m not that person anymore.”

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Friedman asks if he would do anything differently today.

“There was a press conference that I had March 2nd of 2006 after Brendan Dassey was charged,” he responds. “I was basically reading from Dassey’s criminal complaint to tell the general public. The public has a right to know, that’s why we’re allowed to release that kind of information. What I would do now much differently than I did then was simply release the written criminal complaint.”

In their conversation, Kratz discusses why he subpoenaed the series’ filmmakers Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos, why a key piece of the defense’s evidence was meaningless, and a change in his astrological identity.

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“For the first 35 years of my life, I was a Leo, and then they decided that July 23rd was really in Cancer instead of Leo.”

“So you’re a cancer,” Friedman counters.

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“Stop.”

The tone of the interview is generally hard to pin down, and inconsistent, often abrupt editing contributes to the vagueness. Since Kratz, who was accused of repeatedly sexting a domestic violence victim (as well as several other potential clients) in is such a widely despised figure, I would have liked the opportunity to see him answer for his past actions in some kind of substantial way rather than being quietly rude for eight minutes.


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