Gwyneth Paltrow was on Oprah today to talk about her road trip eating her way through Spain with Croc-wearing Mario Batali, which the two made into a PBS show On the Road Again. But she sat down with Oprah to talk about a lot of other stuff first, like her intense workout regimen (boring), being a stay-at-home mom with nannies (yawn), her postpartum depression (getting warmer), and her friendship with Madonna. In the clip above, she talks about the Material Girl, how they share a trainer, the way their kids play together, and how Madge helped pull her out of her depression.

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