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Did Hillary's Appearance On O'Reilly Actually Make Me Like Her More?

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Fox is the only news channel that gets any audio on my cable box. This is something, like the interminable nature of this campaign, I generally regard as a negative. But yesterday I had a revelation. See, Hillary Clinton just went on Bill O'Reilly, and when they aren't rerunning clips of the really boring interview, the Fox News talking heads are creaming their pants over how well she's held up, what a "fighter" she is, etc. And it hit me: has Hillary Clinton's stubborn refusal to drop out maybe been good for America? All the phony, cynical and self-serving praise she's had heaped upon her pantsuited self from Rush and Ann and the Weekly Standard and the "Fair And Balanced" regime has started, ever so gradually, to convert into something genuine: respect. Anyway, The Indianapolis Star just endorsed Hillary, a Baptist minister got ushered out by Secret Service for asking John McCain if he really called his wife a "cunt", and Barack Obama drank shit beer at a VFW and the whole thing has lasted so long it's starting to feel like life itself, and Megan and I decided to look at it on the beer-glass half-full side today.


MOE: OK I guess we gotta do this today like every day but I got nothin but a sharp pain in my right temple.
MEGAN: Yeah, dude, today sort of sucks for news. Where was everyone yesterday?
MEGAN: It's so slow, Politico has a column about what Obama should go dirty about if he went dirty.
MOE: Well the DC madam was en route to... the big brothel in the sky? And NY State Supreme Court Justice Robert Doyle was in the parking lot, arraigning a guy who was too fat to squeeze into the courtroom. I was getting a facial and buying shoes and going to the National Magazine Awards, which were incredibly exciting. Hillary was getting her ass licked by everyone on Fox News for her courage and grace under the pressure of "The master" Bill O'Reilly.
MEGAN: Also, Congressman Vito Fossella got arrested for a DUI in Alexandria. Dude, that's what interns are for,

MEGAN: to drive your drunk ass home
MOE: I do kind of love something about this:

"You're a polarizing personality," Mr. O'Reilly chuckled during the interview. "You're like I am, and I hate to say that," he said.


MOE: I bet I know exactly where Vito was stopped.
MEGAN: On the GW Parkway, I assume.
MEGAN: Or, rather, on "Washington Avenue".
MOE: No it's Washington Street.
MOE: And yeah there are a bunch of hidden cop cars there.
MOE: There is also a cop car you'll always see on Ft. Hunt Road but I'm pretty sure it's just because a cop lives in the house.
MEGAN: There always are. It's why I don't go out drinking in Old Town. It's too expensive to cab there and back, the bars are too far from the Metro station and I hate being the DD.
MOE: We could also add the matter of EVERY BAR THERE SUCKS to the laundry list.
MEGAN: Well, yes, but I'll go to sucky bars for cheap drinks. I went to the Continental last week in New York. $4 rum and cokes make up for a lot.
MOE: The credibility of American Idol has been jeopardized! Because Paula Abdul fucked up! Imagine entrusting the credibility of your show to Paula Abdul, and having her falter under pressure. Of all people. And yes I am sick of places that charge six bucks for a beer too.
MEGAN: I have to say, I went out with a friend last night to the bar we refer to as Headquarters and were served a bottle of a wine plus a glass and were charged for 3 glasses total. I love that place. I like the place by you, too, but I'm partial to places where the batenders flirt and don't charge me for all that I can/should not drink.
MOE: I forgive the Marshall Stack its somewhat parsimonious approach to buybacks namely because it is literally two feet from my house. But there's another "headquarters" I've been known to frequent that started buying every third beer on my third or fourth visit, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. Did I really deserve it? Is this just built into your business model like so many buy one get one half off promotions at Foot Locker, or is it actually a statement on your appreciation for the combination of liberal tipping habits and apparent dearth of disposable income to be lavishing on your tips and advanced age and tastes in beverage I secretly hope are enough of an advantage to continue surviving in this city as an irredeemable drunk...
MEGAN: I think it's liberal tipping, or my stunning personality. Or the fact that I am constantly in there, bringing people in and being, like, actually pleasant to bartenders. One of my friends thinks going out with me is hilarious because I know bartenders in so many different bars and I'm like, do you know how rarely people say please and thank you and treat them like humans rather than automatic drink dispensers?

MOE: Yeah or when you just learn that the "that bartender is TOTALLY IGNORING ME BECAUSE SHE HATES ME" sensation is a very self-obsessed one and that, if you just chill, they will come. Although sometimes at the Magician it can feel like it is taking a hysterically long time for the bartenders to remember there is another side of the bar. But hey people spend three days in line for bread in Venezuela.
MEGAN: And prolly longer for good dirt cookies in Haiti. You know, I will admit that I have in past years done better with male bartenders than female (cleavage=attention getting device) but lately I've been making friends with lady bartenders, too. I have one's card from last Friday night. She was fun. I taught her how to make a new champagne cocktail.
MOE: I don't know why I am talking so much about alcohol on this hangover but I do enjoy a Kir Royale once in awhile. I always figure bartenders respect that I stick to whiskey and the snobbiest ales they have on tap. But I flatter myself. And male or female it doesn't seem to matter in my case. Although making out at a bar you are more likely to be kicked out by females I think.
MEGAN: I've never been kicked out of a bar for making out. Being rowdy, yes. Making out, no.
MOE: Yeah, the Magician again. I guess I have some unresolved hostility toward that place.
MOE: Never kicked out for being rowdy though.
MOE: Oh wait I missed my segue.
MEGAN: Seg away!
MOE: Obama drank crap beer
MEGAN: God. Panderer.

MEGAN: Oooh, a minister asked McCain about the cunt thing! And he wouldn't say.
MOE: It worked!

Obama greeted George L Sheneman, 80, who pulled out a yellowed letter which Obama read and thanked the man for his service. Your pooler chatted later with Sheneman, who was born in North Liberty and who said he is now an Obama supporter. The letter was one of gratitude from President Truman, written in 1947 when he was discharged from Korea. He served there before the war.


MEGAN: We were in Korea before the war? Goddammit. Fucking military industrial complex.
MOE: Oh yes, okay, this guy who asked, Marty Parrish — was escorted by Secret Service agents for asking that? Seriously? What the fuck?

"We have a man whose temper can get the best of him," Parrish said. "What I am worried about is his temper. Our country is in a serious crisis. This election is the most significant one since 1860. It appears America is asleep — so I stood up and asked the question."


MEGAN: Since 1860? Awesome. Less awesome? Secret Service agents manhandling ministers. McCain handled it well (not the not answering part) but the escorting the guy out was stupid.
MEGAN: When did it become the Secret Service's mission to keep politicians from uncomfortable questions?
MOE: That really makes no sense to me.

MOE: Okay, I'm going to say something about Hillary.
MOE: Maybe I am glad she has stayed around this long. Because the Republicans who are suspicious of Obama, namely because he breathes new life into Old Liberal Values and is, truly, "transformative" in terms of the ideological battle between left and right in this country, have been forced to reconsider Hillary entirely. And what started as "grudging self-serving respect" seems to have turned into something more genuine. I truly think some of the same Angry White Men who made her ankles and her cookies and her arrogance into such the Machialesbian Menace have changed their minds. I think the respect is more genuine today. I think they are listening to her when she talks. I could be wrong and it could all be a put-on. But hearing Fox News on the subject of Hillary is about the only thing I can really bear to hear them discuss that isn't, you know, celebushit.
MEGAN: I think part of it's put on, but I'd agree that being in it long enough had brought her more respect than she had before.
MEGAN: However, part of me selfishly wishes that the stupid thing was already decided.
MOE: I mean, of course it is. But in the put on I think a lot of partisan right wingers have really been forced to genuinely rethink Hillary. Ann Coulter is 95% satire, but there was some genuine fondness in her various pro-Hillary screeds, and I'd possibly say the same for Rush, and I think it's really fascinating. Because I never understood in the first place how she was so polarizing — I always thought she was just beholden, and possibly too interested in power for power's sake, and I hate Bill Clinton — and Bill O'Reilly's deference toward her I think was something of a watershed.


MOE: Oh also black churchgoers feel the same way we do about Jeremiah Wright
MEGAN: I think that's sort of where the sexism comes in. Plus they hate Bill Clinton, too, for coopting their messages and being a better politician than them. And possibly for fucking their wives/sisters/daughters.
MOE: I think the campaign has forced a lot of sexists to acknowledge their own sexism definitely. also
MOE: This funny blog called Jeremiah Wright an example of "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong" and I just got a reallll bad case of Chapelle nostalgia.
MOE: Where the Fuck is Dave right now for this election
MEGAN: Aw, Dave Chapelle! If it helps you come back, I'll totally pretend to not find you funny!
MEGAN: Jerking off into piles of cash?
MOE: Yeah I will come see you and bring 9 black people with me!
MEGAN: And I'll pretend to be shocked and slightly horrified by your comedy!

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@loquaciousmusic: I know it's wrong but I wish you could superimpose the Howard Dean squeal into this.

Also, Moe - do you want me to call the cable company for you? Seriously, I'm a professional with these folks.