<![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality - Jezebel Comments]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality - Jezebel Comments]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @adina: Aw no, we've got a surfboard in the shot!

HotNuttyBrownie

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Jadoremonchat: rich parents! duhh

adina

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> SPRING BREAK WHOOOOO!

GIRLS WITH LOW SELF ESTEEM!

adina

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I'm all for young women building self-esteem and a positive self image... with other chicks

Final - should have been the first Black President.

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> At the risk of sounding like a fuddy-duddy (and I did my share of "stuff" in my late teens early twenties) I think a lot of it has to do with popular culture. Everything we are exposed to is about being "sexy" and how valuable that is.

denises_24

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Jadoremonchat: Yeah, seriously. I don't understand all this disposable income. When I was in college I was broke and, if anything, I would save cash to pay for gas money to drive home. That was the extent of my spring break. Although, I do miss having a week off. When is the next day off for the slave labor force? Memorial Day?

groupie

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @littlebluebug: *gives you a kewpie doll* I love Wash so very very much.

Mama Kinn

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> What's the difference between being "confident" on Spring Break and being plain-old drunk and promiscuous?

Well, if she's interested in me, she's simply being "confident," but if she's uninterested in me and pursuing other guys, well, she's "plain-old drunk and promiscuous."

To rewrite an old adage.

EnBuenOra

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Cranimal:
I agree with you that this type of currency isn't limited to college years alone.

But over the long haul, a female investment banker or Harvard Law graduate (like Silda, if she hadn't cut out to raise kids) probably makes more than "Kristen" will in her few months of fame and year or whatever of work.

nameredacted

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> ah...spring break...good times...

I did the drunken debauchery thing with almost the same group of 10 or so friends for three years in a row. Was dating the same guy all three times (still am) and we got our own room each year (sweeeet!!). We all avoided other spring breakers except for the yearly trip to the club.

year 1: The b/f and I skipped out in favor of dinner together and then back to the rental house with three bottles of wine that we killed before morning.

year 2: No club- we all spent too much on booze and drugs to pay for the 40 mile cab ride to the nearest club.

year 3: I actually forked over money to see a wet t-shirt contest in the local club. All the girls looked hideous- and by hideous I mean fake-baked, fake boobs, and fake blond. I felt like I was watching drunken robots.

du056022

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Cranimal: Truly. She has her million on offer, at least. I don't have that yet.

This is part of the problem. Girls/women wouldn't do that shite if men and our culture didn't reward them for it.

Rooo sez BISH PLZ

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> this post has way to many comments, and i probably won't get read, but i was shocked by the overt, fleshy sexuality of the girls when I first came to the US. it seemed like there was an incredibly narrow definition of femininity and sexiness

crazylazy

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Coldwine: "So I guess being the world's best in your field just isn't enough - you have to look pretty doing it!"

Well, this does seem to be the case these days.

Hillary? Condi? Janet Reno, anyone?

Rooo sez BISH PLZ

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> "some?" "may?"

land surveyor k

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @hortense: "That, and we are a nation that confuses attention with affection, arrogance with assertiveness, and strength with stubbornness."

And sex appeal with non-referent power.

"We are a mess."

Nice. Short, sweet, to the point.

Kind of gives a creepy prescient feeling to all the Aldous Huxley read in middle and high school, yes?

Rooo sez BISH PLZ

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @rah29: I want to go on spring break with you.

VioletFirth

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @ForeverBlueGirl: i couldn't have said it better and i relate to your comment so SO strongly.

MilointheMeadow

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I don't understand why the true judges of "hotness" are the highly intoxicated frat boys on spring break...not really the point, I know, but doesn't the term "beer goggles" come to mind?

jess3

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @katekate: @Cam/ron: Oh dear....

@Lymed: My sister, her mother, was a Gallaudet protester back in the day, as well- they do kick some mightly butt at that school, protest-wise.

fluffybudgie

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @MaeHemm: That sounds familiar. I remember once, many years ago, when Steffi Graf had been the #1 women's tennis player for, like, forever, my dad dismissed her by saying that she "no longer looked feminine," suggesting that it made her achievements meaningless. So I guess being the world's best in your field just isn't enough - you have to look pretty doing it!

As for the chicks this article is about: if your confidence is based entirely on what other people think of you, it is built on a very shaky foundation indeed. I agree with the poster who said that many guys can't handle a woman whose confidence is not based on their opinion of them. Maybe those guys' confidence is based on women caring what they think of them. That's a sad state of affairs.

And rah29, your trip to Vegas sounds like so much fun!

Coldwine

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> How the hell are these college students able to afford trips to Cancun? I work at Target. I can barely pay my bills, let alone go to Mexico. Where is all of this disposable income coming from? WHERE DAMMIT!?

I'm going home for Spring break because the family wants me back in California for Easter. But alas, I have to bring my homework with me because I have A TON of homework due after spring break. I have to read "Living with the Himalayan Masters" and then write three essays. Can't wait.

Jadoremonchat

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I've gone through my own stages of stupid behavior, and probably will continue that kind of behavior for a while longer. So I understand where these women are coming from, and I understand the need for validation, so this spring break nonsense is more sad than anything else. On the other hand, fake boobs and tans? Gross, dude.

Anyway my spring break this year involves a lot of smoking weed in the backyard of my parents' house, sleeping, re-learning how to skateboard, and getting my first tattoo. So despite my occasionally-promiscuous-collegiate-fema... status, I'm not really in the Spring Break target demographic.

aegyptus

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> OK, I'm willing to say I judge. It's a cop-out to say that girls are young and stupid. There are millions who aren't and who try to talk sense into those who can't seem to get to that realization on their own. So, yeah, we can hold even the dumb ones accountable, and it doesn't mean we can't judge them. Although I had friends who did and I went to a large state u., I did not participate in a Spring Break like this. Not because I spent it doing charity work (I didn't) and not because I couldn't ask my parents with a straight face for the money (which of course I couldn't). Because even then, I could recognize it was a recipe for disaster. My roommate went and had some shame about the idiot dude she went to third with in a public place. Real classy.

There was an article in Cosmo or Glamour a couple years back about women who felt awful for being in those Girls Gone Wild videos - even before GGW was HUGE. Um, I no longer have any sympathy for those women. You know those pervs are out there with cameras or even camera phones, you put yourself in a bad situation, and you let your low self-esteem make you do incredibly stupid stuff. If you're into exhibitionism, fine. Great. But if you're not, don't whine later about it. Yeah, the GGW enterprise is gross, exploitive and skeezy. But even a drunk girl should know better.

Happy Spring Break. Have fun with your new STD.

kungfutoday

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @marvel girl:
I'm so with you on that one.Maybe we're related!!!!

Calraigh

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @HS Kinn: Please tell me that were I an unwed woman is a deliberate Firefly reference, because if it's not I'm going to feel like a ginormous geek.

LBB says YES WE DID!

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Who says that carnality as currency is limited to Spring Break? Just ask "Kristen". A pair of fake tits can get you farther and earn you more than a college degree, sadly.

Cranimal

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @fluffybudgie: Sorry to say, yes. Gallaudet definitely does have its share of partiers.

insertwittycommenthere

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @girlscoutcookie: Ah well, at least you have sun! It's 5 degrees C and hailing (is that a word? Raining hail? Oh, whatever!) where I am.
Oh yeah, a bibliography. Thanks for reminding me. *goes off to scavenge for more articles on misogyny and Alexander Pope*

@SmaženýSýr: How's about Ros Ballaster's "Women and the rise of the novel: sexual prescripts" FTW!!!?
When I was at the dean's secretary today I saw she was making all these diplomas in order and I just wanted to snag one. Dear, they were so pretty!

haguenite

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @mllej: watched!

mllej

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @mllej: For Christmas, I got my boyfriend all 3 seasons on DVD (since we live together, it was really a present for me too-- he got me the complete set of Gilmore Girls, DVD love!) and we just cycle through them over and over again. It's hard to pick a favorite, although anything with Franklin and/or Mrs Featherbottom totally kills. "On the plus side, you can take him to lunch at the club now." "That's just the kind of joke he would have loved!"

girlscoutcookie voted for Obama and it felt goooood.

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @girlscoutcookie: Seriously! My first season DVDs skip like crazy I've waytched them so many times. Still a favorite: I want you to ride her. HARD.

mllej

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @haguenite: that's more or less how I spent all my Spring Breaks. My version of Cancun was "WOO HOO, Edith Wharton and the construction of the feminine!" Screw the beads, got the degrees! :)

SmaženýSýr

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @reach: I'm in grad school in VT right now. For spring break I'm going to a conference on racism and environmentalism before parking myself on my parents couch (in NYC) with a remote control in hand. I'm thinking about creating some kind of artistic chalk piece around the cube in astor place. I'm too old (28), too poor, and too tired for debauchery. I am however, going to run everyday, because when I'm fit I feel confident (and strong) and I have a 10k (my first!) to run in May. Wish me luck!

LibidinousSlut

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Sugarless: Sugarless, for that comment, were I an unwed woman, I'd have to propose. However, since I'm wed, I'll have to settle for girlcrushing. :DD

Mama Kinn

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @girlscoutcookie: Awesome! Born and raised, then got the hell out to the West Coast. :)

LBB says YES WE DID!

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @littlebluebug: Yes! Not originally, but I've lived here since ninth grade (I'm a junior in college now).

girlscoutcookie voted for Obama and it felt goooood.

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Confidence = Being able to do the things that bring you pleasure and joy, without worrying about what other people may think.

Plain old drunk and promiscuous = Doing things that will bring onlookers pleasure and joy, without worrying about what you'd think (if you were actually sober).

RosePetalPlace

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @girlscoutcookie: Are you from Mississippi???

@tscheese: Social sketching and alcohol? Sounds awesome to me. :D

LBB says YES WE DID!

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I don't think it's a bad thing if working out and putting on a cute outfit makes you feel good about yourself. I always feel my best when I am feeling strong and non-slobbish. In fact it annoys me a little when when our culture of love yourself rhetoric is used an excuse not to be healthier! BUT... it really saddens me to see these primped up girls putting all their efforts into a one-night stand with a drunken doucebag. Like someone else said, it's a vicious cycle...

KetchupFiend

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @AndSheWas: Congratufuckinglations you total loser.

Josh Evans

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @bitchyolympian: Okay, then she's not going for Spring Break. But she is going this week. No idea why.

Maybe your daughter and my cousin are friends!

I didn't really mean to rag on WSU, though I grew up as a Huskies fan. I mean, I can literally count the number of frat parties I've been to on one hand, and I go to Penn State. So.

snarkhunting

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @AthertonMerriweather: I loved their show. The world needs more of the Ed Lover dance.

CreoleSugar

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Gaining confidence based on other people's opinions of your appearance is like getting all your calories from candy.

Sure, it'll be amazing and delicious and satisfying for awhile, but the long run it'll leave you sick and craving real substance.

exelizabeth

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @littlebluebug: @Peripheralvision: God yeah. Some of the best times I had in college was sitting around with my girlfriends, armed with fruity vodka drinks and sketchbooks. We would drink and draw. I guess it was like an alcoholic stitch n' bitch...except...scribble n' quibble? I don't know. But we were having fun, and we weren't doing ooky things that could give us syphilis.

Also, when I was in college, I was working 30 hours a week and taking 18 credit hours. I was too freaking tired and poor to do anything extravagant over my spring breaks. The most I would do would be to visit friends in the next state over, make a little road trip of it, but that was about it.

tscheese

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @littlebluebug: @tscheese: @misssgolightly: At my (small, private, liberal arts) school, there are people who are spending their spring breaks on relief trips to the hurricane-damaged areas of the gulf coast (which still need an absurd amount of help), feed-the-hungry missions to the Mississippi Delta, one of the poorest places in the country, or in Pennsylvania campaigning. Or, like me, at parents' houses 'cause we can't afford to go elsewhere. The people I know who are going to the beach are going with their families. I'm sure there are SOME people at my school who are being sketchy and ridiculous, but it's encouraging for me to know that some are using their spring breaks for good.

girlscoutcookie voted for Obama and it felt goooood.

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @saradanger: That's what fucking scares me the most... these girls are getting a message that even their PARENTS won't love them if they don't conform to the ideal. That can apply to a lot of things, not just plastic surgery -- "right" job, "right" mate, "right" number of kids, etc. Which makes me sadder than sad, and reinforces my belief that a lot of people just shouldn't be parents.

LBB says YES WE DID!

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @arodriguez.romero: Word. When I was in college, I had 3 jobs and made $4.50 an hour. I couldn't afford to take Spring Break until I'd graduated and was a high school teacher. Went to Ft Lauderdale with my boyfriend and we realized after the first day we weren't meant for each other. Ended the week in silence.

Good times.

Centaurea

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @snarkhunting: um..... WSU spring break was last week.... and my darling beautiful brilliant daughter went camping for 2 days and then hung out at home, relaxing from her strenuous class load.

I love my smart, beautiful, ambitious daughter.

bitchyolympian

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> The sad thing is that these girls parents are footing the bill for all of this spray tanning & plastic surgery, further reinforcing that they need to look a certain way to earn the right to have self-esteem. These parents would be doing their daughters, and society, a great service if they emphasized self-respect, which is based on one's actions and achievements, as opposed to this false idea of "self-esteem".

saradanger

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @tscheese: it's just like that episode of the simpsons where lisa simpson went overboard trying to lose a few pounds "I know this obsession with thinness is unhealthy and anti-feminist...but that's what a fat girl would say!"

@Snicker-snack: are you from texas? furthermore, i so would have been pals with you. star trek reruns? walmart frozen food? pranks on stupid frat boys? awesome.

rednrowdy

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Peripheralvision: There is a new video craze sweeping the nation: Girls Gone Sensible.

Just lots of videos of regular women with pants and such. Sometimes they are knitting. Sometimes they are discussing a book they have all read. Sometimes they are watching Slings and Arrows on Bravo.

The videos have a small but very loyal following.

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @tscheese: I don't know... same reason it's not cool to be civic-minded or have a strong sense of ethics, I guess... because those are things that "grown-ups" approve of, and you're automatically not cool unless you're sticking it to every authority figure in your life.

@misssgolightly: I seem to remember from another comment of yours that you're college aged? Please forgive me if I'm confusing you with someone else, but I'm here to tell you that you WILL. Trust. I've been that girl. People may not quite know how to respond to you because you don't fit the mold of the insecure or superficial, but the people who are worth your time will think you are awesome.

@LaComtesse: Society is telling me [and has for years] that I'm a schoolmarm/librarian type and I should just resign myself to frumpy brown dresses and a houseful of cats right now. So far I'm not listening.

LBB says YES WE DID!

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @haguenite: I am in your same boat, sister. The closest I'm getting to a traditional spring break is the sunny spot on the back porch where I can catch up on reading, (fucking Norman Mailer) write journals for my history class, research and write an annotated bibliography for my lit paper, and catch up on e-postings for Brit Lit.

@mllej: "They're crooked!"
... I could do this all day. I love that show so much.

girlscoutcookie voted for Obama and it felt goooood.

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @tscheese: For what it's worth - plenty of intelligent young women get together to do non-drunken things that don't involve putting themselves on the meat market.
It's just a matter of the photogenic "Sand, Sun, and STDs" crowd being more telegenic. No news crew ever brought cameras around to our Stitch 'n Bitch parties or clothing swaps.
I just hope people (employers? older folks? politicians? MEN?) don't judge all the women in my generation based on Girls Gone Wild. I'm afraid it'll generate paternalistic contempt for women...

Peripheralvision

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @wolf biter: We used to, but we moved to an abandoned warehouse (not exaggerating) up the Schuylkill in Conshy. One of my coaches rowed for Bachelors, and we still use their boathouse for Vails occasionally. Yay for Philly rowers.

PinkSoxHat

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Lymed: yeah, i know, so was i.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @ineffable.me: thenwemadeout said girls don't get anything out of kissing each other on spring break, I was just sharing the information that girls can get beads for making out with each other. I was making a joke.

Lymed

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @summerwheatley: This makes me sad because I think I'm doing this RIGHT NOW. :( I see myself making stupid decisions and I want to stop but part of me is like, "You were a good girl in high school, you were a good girl in college: You need to get this out of your system now."

@PinkSoxHat: You coxed for Villanova? Didn't you guys row out of Bachelors? My high school team rowed out of Bachelors too.

wolf biter

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @polypam: Dude, now that I work in NYC, I am covered shoulder-to-knee in summertime. I went to college in a sleepy hamlet in Pennsylvania and I wore ass-shorts all the time.

I just don't like getting hollered at. I don't know how to react to it.

tscheese

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I'll be spending my spring break writing essays and catching up on the backlog of novels I need to read for my lit class. In fact, I was up at 7 today, worked until 7 PM and now I get to do more studying. Fun stuff, huh?

haguenite

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @fluffybudgie: unfortunately it does not matter the school.. cancun at spring break is crazyville.

although, i must say i am a confident smart woman myself and went to acapulco on spring break and did many a crazy thing and it has not harmed me in any way. you can go do fun stuff once in a while as long as youre in the right state of mind about it.. when i went i was definitely not trying to "feel confident" i was already quite confident in myself and was not looking for guys to "justify my hotness" just wanted to make out for the fun of it! does not make me a slut or promiscuous.

jenalicious

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @TheFormerJuneBronson: &
katekate: "The only kicker..." etc. - that's a scary comment.

Does anybody relate this to the whole 'girlicious' or whatever that stupid pussycat dolls show is? Those girls are always blathering about confidence but really, do we need to be generic sex pots to be confident?

This is a confusing issue, because everybody wants to be attractive (in some way) and everybody wants to get some action... so when does trying to look good stop being okay and start being obsessive or worse? And when did beautiful start to mean only one thing (big boobs, big lips, blond hair).

CristinaS

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @NotAPrettyGirl: My legs barely fit some boats (damn bow-loaders) and I'm 5'1". I really miss the acceptable screaming at people. It was a great way to get out aggression. I'm hoping to coach or cox again when I finish law school.

PinkSoxHat

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @girlscoutcookie: "Spring break, woooooooooooo!" "That's like the 7th nipple I've seen today."

mllej

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> When I was in college, I did not have money for this. Sorry if that's a repeat.

arodriguez.romero speaks java

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @LaComtesse: aw :)
and right on with the rest of the stuff you said.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> But if I'm not sexually desired or objectified by a bunch of drunken douchebags I don't know who I am.

dummyfakeroller

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @PinkSoxHat: I always wanted to be a cox, but my legs definitely didn't fit comfortably in the little seat. They would spill over into the stroke's space and I would get yelled at. I had to sub once or twice. But it was so much fun to yell at everyone :) Payback!

NotAPrettyGirl

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I live in south Florida so I hate Spring Break with a passion. Quit driving on my roads and shopping and my Targets, crazy ass kids!! Damn.

blackbirdfly

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> My mom told me last night that my beautiful 19-year-old college freshman of a cousin is going on a Mexican cruise for spring break...and she's taking her mother. Admittedly, my aunt is only 41 (but she's a grandmother by her oldest daughter!), but still. K's going on a cruise to a country with no drinking age, and she's bringing her MOM.

I'm so proud. She's really living up to that Washington State University party tradition. Might as well have gone to a tiny midwestern lib arts school like me, where spring break shenanigans were more often to be found while building houses for Habitat in Appalachia.

snarkhunting

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Standing on stage almost naked just to hear hoots-n-hollars from guys, I just don't get it. When I lived in NYC and walked everywhere, I was uncomfortable wearing shorts on a summer day because I didn't like the "hey baby" outbursts from the scumbag sector of the male population.

To each his own.

polypam

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @mllej:

"This objectification of women has GOT to STOP!"

"... It's just Mom and whores."

girlscoutcookie voted for Obama and it felt goooood.

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @SequinsMakeTheWorldGoRound: Hell, I'm in college right now and some of it shocks me! Small liberal arts schools do not lead to crazy spring breaks like this. We know how to party, but I don't think any of us are stupid enough to spend an entire week wasted out of our minds catching every STD we can.
Sometimes my peers absolutely terrify me. Especially since these are the ones who have money, and therefore have a head start on me for just about everything. These are the kids who will rule the world one day?

CollegeBookworm

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @girlscoutcookie: Yeah, but if the trick worked, wouldn't everyone see me just standing there?
Let's just sit quietly and consider how ridiculous that statement is.

mllej

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @ineffable.me:... ... I think you're my soulmate, sometimes, I really do. I TOTALLY blame them. It's like "Society tells them this is what they will be valued for." Yeah. Society is telling ME the exact same thing, but I still think more highly of myself than kissing other girls for attention.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I think it's pretty funny that actual confidence seems to be a turn-off for all those frat boys, whooping it up at spring break.

I've always been confident in my nerdy, video-game lovin' , eclectic-dressing self and I think a lot of guys don't know how to handle that. "Yeah, I like video games as such as you, and I can probably even kick your butt in them."

It takes a really confident guy to go for the really confident girls, IMO.

Dvizzl

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> "And illiteracy appears to have spread to the point at which parents can put a T-shirt on a 2-year-old without noticing that the words "Future Hooters Girl" are printed across the front"

Best quote ever!

SequinsMakeTheWorldGoRound

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Sugarless: I think we were separated at birth.

ceejeemcbeegee

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I don't know why I'm still shocked that this actually happens, but I was so far removed from it in school that I find it super difficult to believe. I went to art school, and of course we get rowdy, but in a completely different way.

SequinsMakeTheWorldGoRound

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @crushdmb: :"What do you think happens when your body hits a propeller?!"

Natural selection? We need more spring breaks. Thin out the herd.

goldenmonkey

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> What did Helen Mirren call this? Powerless power? Totes. Sure, you win the contest and get some skeezy photos of you making out with other chicks. Also, the clap. But when Spring Break is over, then what did you gain? Besides the clap? Nada.

Money is where the power is at, ladies.

AnnieGetYourFun

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> My pale friends and I made it a point during college to head to South Padre every spring break to 'see what we were missing' by going to school in the city.

We built confidence by telling every nasty frat boy who hit on us to meet us behind the Radisson for a killer party we were throwing later on. When they called to ask why we weren't there yet we would say that we were still dragging our keg down the main boulevard, but to wait there. We were actually watching Star Trek in our condo and eating Wal-Mart frozen food. Now THAT's a spring break!

Snicker-snack

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I wish people would stop saying "they're young and stupid, everyone makes mistakes". That is a horrible excuse. I'm sick of everyone making excuses.

BraidMyHair

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @nyobserver: If I gave a crap about how I looked in relation to everyone else around me, was a girl with big boobs and wanted some immediate gratification from a large crowd, sure. Since I'm none of those things, then probably not so much.

If these girls want to seek validation about their "hotness" by engaging in this kind of behavior, that's fine as an isolated thing like Mardi-Gras or Spring Break or whatever. It's when the same girls don't have anything else to offer other than being drunk and lascivious that the problem comes in.

DeeJayQueue

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @beeble: duh, that's why your parents buy your boobs for you as a graduation/sweet 16/whatever present.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I guess I'm the only one who misses Dr.Dre and Ed Lover hosting Mtv's Bikini Contest.

AthertonMerriweather

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Political Party Girl: LOL.

ChiefNInjaMonkey

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I just... Gob. Arrested Development. That's all I can think about regarding this post.

Also, I'm on my Spring Break at this very minute, and I'm spending it in my parents' den on Jezebel. And I'm proud of it.

girlscoutcookie voted for Obama and it felt goooood.

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @babytuna: oh man. i think we are the same person.
you mean coitus?

hoodienerd

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> "But what of confidence gained through intelligence, talent, skill or bravery?"

My question is, what do you do if you don't posses any of those things? Get implants and go to Cancun I guess.

thatsspinach

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @braak: To an extent. But it's also about what you consciously value in a woman. If you value talent more than "fuckability" you're more likely to acknowledge it.

MaeHemm

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @ghanima:

... or outrageous credit limits. There's no WAY I could have afforded implants on a college student's income, and I worked three jobs.

beeble

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> "[I]s she tragically falling victim to the age-old standard, that of a woman's worth being directly tied to her appearance?"

Um, yes?

AnnieGetYourFun

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I want to see the Pot Psychologists wax philosophic about this.

Girls can be so, so dumb. (... and I am one, so I should know. I quit highlighting my hair last summer because the reactions I got were so outrageously positive, but only from other women. Men could care less. Oh, and I realized that I was spending waaaay too much time in a snooty salon and not enough time writing my novel.)

beeble

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @MaeHemm: Well, sometimes "hot"'s a lot easier to see.

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Beanfish: And snag that Romeo who shall shag her a few times to get his fix and then dump her for another hottie!

Cam/ron

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @frumious: It's not even just "culture". I was thinking the other day how when i was a kid and watching TV with my parents I'd hear them say things like "Wow, she looks a lot older now.", "Yeaaaah baby!" (to hot girl from my dad), "She got fat.", "No wonder he cheated on her, she's not that pretty." Rarely, if never, did I ever hear them say "She's really smart", "She's really funny", or "She's a really good actress/musician/whatever".

Talented rarely gets as much attention and validation as "hot".

MaeHemm

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I'm sick of feeling like a loser cause I'm a "smart girl" and not like the "spring break" girls.
But that's not going to change who I am. I just keep telling myself that I'll thank myself in the future.

misssgolightly

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Well with all that newly-acquired self confidence it's no wonder these are the girls who are able to snag all those totally hot cheating, abusive alcoholic boyfriends!

Beanfish

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I think any promiscuous behavior I have perpetrated has been a direct result of feeling like shit about myself. Thank God I learned my lesson.

rightfootleft

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> my opinion is that there are smart women and dumb women, just as there are smart men and dumb men. smart women get their self esteem from real places, dumb women may get it from superficial crap like this. just as dumb men may get their self esteem from shit like how much they can bench press or what kind of sports car they drive. dum-dums of either sex are never going to change, they will just use whatever meager assets they have to get ahead.

harumph

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @katastic: Duh, I'm a guy. When women audition for me, I'm the one shouting "SHOW US YOUR TITS!"

@Lady Skittlehattington's Publicist: It was an underage nude photospread in Jugs, actually, but close enough.

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Body shots, wet T-shirt contests and kissing girls are the most innocent of SB pursuits, if the SB videos I've seen are any indication.

Some porn sites have "Spring Break" tags, and "Drunk" and "Coed." Classy!

LipstickLibrarian

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Jayne: BLAME THEM. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.
I am so sick and tired of no one ever accepting responsibility for their actions. It seems to be that nothing that you ever do counts until after you are 30. Before that you are too young to know better. Fuck. That. Shit.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> In other news, the fact that the comments don't work 50% of the time makes me :(

katekate is squared

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @BoredButNoLongerInNH: I totally agree with you, Dodai, and DEARBLONDDIARY - men are taught that they are valued for what they do, while women are taught they are valued for what they look like. Our culture teaches men to learn and succeed and make money and achieve sports goals! It teaches women to be thin with big boobs and younger-looking skin and wear hot/revealing clothes.

Until very recently, and I am thinking of Hillary, there weren't even that many accomplished women for girls to emulate beyond the beautiful and young.

(I'm not leaving out Sandra Day O'Connor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Madeleine Albright, Janet Reno, et al., but these women were not culturally held up as heroes for young girls, IMO). They were exceptions. And derided on Saturday Night Live for being masculine.

frumious

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I find it hard to believe that I am the sole person who did the crazy spring break thing, but since no one's fessing up, I will.

I think most college students are still grappling with their sense of self, and many are trying to figure out who they are as a sexual being. Add copious amounts of alcohol and you have a lot of unaware, reckless behavior going on. So yes, I have participated in wet t-shirt and booty shaking contests and dancing on bars in skimpy clothing, but if anything, I learned that (1) I should not drink so much if I plan on having any self-respect and (2) Such behavior makes you feel like shit afterwards. Perhaps in that way, one builds confidence by the shocking glare of "What the hell did I just do" the next morning.

ae38

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @TheFormerJuneBronson: I was wearing a bra in 3rd grade. Because being the only black kid in honors and wearing glasses was not torture enough. When my mom mentioned braces I literally lost my shite.

I did learn something valuable about self worth from developing so early and it sounds like you did too.

CreoleSugar

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @TheFormerJuneBronson: I agree totally.

katekate is squared

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> BODY SHOTS, WOOOOOOOO!

SharonTaint

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @frecklefacefreak: Me too. My spring breaks have always been full of 40-hour work weeks and ignoring the extra work my professors loving pile on at break time. Drinking? Beaches? Bikinis? Fun? Can't afford that shit.

Sev

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Lymed: Because everyone knows beads cure AIDS, cancer and help the terrorists from winning.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @hortense: "That, and we are a nation that confuses attention with affection, arrogance with assertiveness, and strength with stubbornness. We are a mess."

Well said.

BraidMyHair

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @fluffybudgie: I know Gallaudet students kick ass at protesting. They shut the school down when they felt their input was ignored in the choice of their new President.

Lymed

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Y'know, even looking back on my own college experiences, I felt like I was always consoling myself by saying stuff like, "Oh, well, at least I have brains. At least I have x talent and y talent. Who cares how I look in a bikini?"

...How come it can't be cool to be smart and talented? How come it just has to be about washboard abs and oiled lithe bodies?

Do I sound totally old and dorky? Or fat? I bet I sound fat.

tscheese

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I went on spring break trips my senior year of high school and then 3 out of 4 years in college. It was always me and a bunch of girlfriends, we definitely partied hard but it wasn't about hooking up and it certainly wasn't about gaining confidence. I think having an awesome group of friends pretty much helps secure that confident feeling, much more so than a wet tshirt contest. But yeah we always had a lot of fun.

marybanjo

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Cam/ron: Yeah, and a lot of the people there are skeevy older men who are more than happy to take advantage of the insecure drunk 19year olds.

Spring breaks like these really make me nervous. Too many opportunities for bad things to happen.

MaeHemm

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @fluffybudgie: Oh yeah? My little blonde niece lives in Santa Barbara's Isla Vista community where 1% of all American booze is consumed and every night is Mardis Gras. I'll just say that she met her love at a party where they were both cheating on their dates.

Cam/ron

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @TakeBackWhatYouSaidAboutThor: Ha, oh yeah. My college spring break trip was about seven years ago. The worst part was I didn't even know I had mono until after I got home -- although I should've figured it out when I got winded during the drunken egg toss contest on the beach.

hugnkiss

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Eh. I really can't blame these women. They're young and I know I did a lot of dumb shit for dome reasons when I was in college. Most of them will come around.

Jayne

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @katekate: There are other bad things besides those for which a woman can't be held responsible. When you base your self-worth on others' approval at an early age, and then find that you aren't getting the approval you want and feel shitty about yourself twenty or thirty years later, you haven't anyone but yourself to blame.

TheFormerJuneBronson

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @BOO_BOO_HOFF: From what I understand, very few college students can afford to go down to exotic places to party during SB, television gives the impression that half of the nation's college students go there. In fact, many of those partyers aren't actually students. I attended a pretty big, urban university and SB debachery was pretty much about getting trashed on SB eve and then going home where you do nothing but sleep in, drink and watch TV (to view other students having more fun than you on SB).

Cam/ron

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @braak: Whaaaat, you've never been to an audition where they screamed "SHOW US YOUR TITS?!!"

katastic

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @braak: Oh, sure. Take my comment and respond with a serious answer.

But isn't that how Meryl Streep got her start?

Lady Skittlehattington

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @fluffybudgie: I have bad news: if she went to Cancun for spring break, it doesn't matter what school she goes to.

katekate is squared

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @thenwemadeout: Kissing a friend is a great way to get beads in New Orleans if you don't want to show flesh.

Lymed

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I can think of nothing more confidence boosting than being on the drunken receiving end of an STD.

SharonTaint

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @hammerimissu: I know, I know it isn't very hipster to be blond, especially in NY...but it makes my skin tone look every so fresh.

Dear Blond Diary

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @braak: hahaha, well you know, there's a lot of agents watching comedy central late at night.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I had many friends in college who based their self esteem on attention by men. They would be depressed they didn't have a boyfriend so they would get drunk and pick up a guy at a party, feel great for 2 days, and then get depressed that he didn't call, and then zget drunk and pick up another guy at a party.

It's a vicious cycle. One of those friends is now in a longterm relationship with somebody she clearly doesn't want to spend her life with because she is so scared of being alone.

Lymed

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @marie123: Typo---"to the bank".

My mind is on Spring Break.

marie123

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Holy crap, my little niece is on spring break in Cancun right now. Does anyone know if Gallaudet is a big party school?

Of course, by "little" I mean "six foot tall blonde", but I remember her as a newborn...

fluffybudgie

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @mllej: I literally haven't watched MTV in at least 2 years, and I must say that fact makes me proud.

katekate is squared

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> They all want to be sexy. It's always about being sexy. What ever happened to being pretty?

aPearlfromGrit

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Cam/ron: That's the thing, though, you can have a drunken, slightly crazy spring break without being on Girls Gone Wild or getting your kit off or letting some idiot do shots off your boobs. I did! I had fun with my girls, I got drunk, I danced, I took photos with weird people and places, and yet managed to keep a firm hand on my dignity and not define my level of 'fun' or self-worth on the basis of how many drunken jerks like my tits.

rah29

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @myrtlebeachbum: @NotAPrettyGirl: Yay rowers! But I was a cox. I tried really hard to row but I was too small and my coaches would laugh at me. I coxed for Villanova, mostly lightweights.

PinkSoxHat

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I went to Cancun the summer after high school graduation. I was greatful we weren't there for Spring Break.

Confidence means knowing that you don't have to impress others for validation. I'm still working on it.

gumbytime

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Spring Breakers make me wanna blow chunks.

violetbeauregarde

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @DEARBLONDDIARY: Yes! Dyeing your hair blonde is not a sign of low self-esteem or IQ. I'm so sick of that stigma.

hammerimissu

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @frecklefacefreak: Good ;)--the youngest in my family is the least "interesting looking" himself (lucky bastard) and his nose most fits his face

marie123

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @OhhYeah: What school did you attend? I'm smack in the middle of finals week and if there's a wonderland where these don't happen, I'm all for transferring.

prickles

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I love that the spring break craziness always involves girls kissing each other. And not getting anything out of it. (It's A-OK with me when girls kiss because they want to and not because they want to turn on some douchewad 20-year old - OBVS). These people make me sad.

thenwemadeout

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Dumb question: does MTV still do Spring Break crap? I'm still scarred from those Dr. Dre/Ed Lover hosted things and that American flag hoochie "swimsuit".

mllej

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @DeeJayQueue: So...are you saying you'd enter a wet t-shirt contest in that case?

nyobserver

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> If you had asked me this in college, I would have told you some line about "confidence" (though I never did anything that crazy). Now I just kind of see it as sad. Ew, I'm getting old.

Jen82

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Lady Skittlehattington's Publicist: I read an article one, about that Joe Francis guy, and the women who are in Girls Gone Wild.

There was an actual quote in the article, in which the woman said something to the effect of, "Lots of girls are models. But if you're in a video, and agent might see that and want to hire you to be an actress."

Literally, a fuse blew in my brain when I read that. I haven't been the same ever since.

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @marie123: I was joking lol....I thought it was funny she posted that she listed small noses as something girls should own b/c uhhhh small noses are kind of coveted. I do have a small button-nose and I am very thankful for it b/c out of seven kids in my family, only me and one brother don't have a big hump on our noses.

frecklefacefreak

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> What I want to know is, how is this different from adult women who behave the same way? Women who regularly go out and get wasted and sleep with whomever, and base their self-esteem on that, instead of just doing it when they go on spring break. It's really not.

katekate is squared

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @BOO_BOO_HOFF: I went to a small liberal arts college, and while some students did go to more exotic, party locales for spring break, many of us stayed home and worked, went to DC (me), or went abroad to Europe for a class, etc. There was more of a sense amongst the student body to put break to an ambitious use.

AndSheWas

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> I think you are right on Dodai, with this line:

"Or is she tragically falling victim to the age-old standard, that of a woman's worth being directly tied to her appearance?"

this is exackly what is going on. Ultimately, your confidence comes from others reinforcing your beliefs about yourself, or reflecting them back to you. therefore, if you believe you are attractive, you need to be naked on camera making out with girls in order to prove that.

overstating to make a point aside, after 24 years, it turns out I do look prettier with blond hair. and so DearBlondDiary came into her own...

Dear Blond Diary

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @BOO_BOO_HOFF:
I have no idea who participates in this. There's just a handful of people at my school who I can imagine doing this, but I go to a small school that isn't known for it's parties. I have friends at bigger schools, but I can't imagine them doing this either. Even my close friend from high school who fits the appropriate model of tanned, bleached hair, big boobed hotness just went to the beach to tan during spring break. All the people like this just migrate from all other the country and converge together, making the phenomenon seem more wide spread than it is...I think.

Katxyz

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> They are just in competion with eachother. And every single one is NOT confident.

hammerimissu

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @TheFormerJuneBronson: HA. I 'developed' early...but that amounted to an A cup. I got jipped. I mean....sports bra at 9...period at 11....and all I get for it is an A cup? Fuck that. But now I'm a big ole' B cup cuz I gained a bunch of weight. Take THAT genetics!

frecklefacefreak

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> Forget the girls. I want to know why the guys they're trying to "impress" deserve to see or experience ANY of this.

rose0red

]]> <![CDATA[Some Young Women May Be Confusing "Confidence" With Carnality]]> @Miss Smith Drank Your Vodka: Exactly... confidence is supposed to come from within, not from what men say, which is precisely why I call bullshit on the wet-t-shirt as confidence th