<![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca? - Jezebel Comments]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca? - Jezebel Comments]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> "Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?"

As far as I know, Ayahuasca (Known for the Hallucinogen DMT) only grows in South America. But, we are talking about Moses.

No, it was probably from Soma. A groovy juice of water, honey, alcohol, mead, Amanita muscaria, cannabis, Peganum harmala, pomegranate and Blue lotus.
Go Moses!

That cocktail sounds like it could cause effects very similar to the effects of DMT.

Hypomanic

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> any religious scholar that thinks moses had anything to do with the ten commandments should not be taken seriously. the book of exodus was written at least 600 years after the event supposedly happened, and a lot of evidence indicates that it did not happen.

arachnophilia

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> DMT will make you think you are Jesus.

the dude

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: I'm taken aback that SPECULATION passes for scholarship. I don't do research in the religious studies, but that type of inference/speculation would be dismissed in hypothesis/evidence based research.

AGreenEyeDevil

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> What is the point of posting this on io9 other than just to shove even more anti-religion rhetoric down our throats. I get that the editors there must be primarily anti-Christian. That seems to be a given considering how many posts of that nature i've seen. So be it, but you don't have to shove it down our throats pointlessly.

JCMasterpiece

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: I agree, but then so many 'ground breaking stories' are all flash and not much meat.

I also heart you for saying the "3 major world religions", as many people don't know that Muslims believe in Moses (peace be upon him) and all the other biblical prophets too.

Dogtanian

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Oh, and so what if Moses was stoned/high? Mind altering drugs are common place in many traditional religions, and earth based religions.

cde

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> i believe it. for most of my adult life i've considered myself agnostic, then i smoked salvia and my life was turned upside down

adina

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> The book of Revelations had to have been written by a tweeker then right?

Pyrovixen

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Any Christian or Catholic would know that only Jews have to follow the Ten Commandments. Jesus released us from the Old Law.

And the Ten commandments were only a small part of the 457 laws of the Old Testament. Among which, God hates Shrimp.

cde

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> A homeless "preacher" on Laguna Beach talked to my boyfriend and I for a while, and asked us if we had a little "herb." The conversation followed as:
Boyfriend: Doesn't that go against your religious beliefs?
Homeless Preacher: Oh no, the Bible was all about weed. It's been edited, because the church doesn't want you to know. The burning bush that spoke unto Moses was described as a "beautiful blazing cannabis bush."
B: Oh, so Jesus was probably high all the time?
H.P: Of course he is high. Jesus is the most high!

Katxyz

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: absolutely. there were TONS of miracles performed in the Bible. according to this, we should believe that EVERYONE who saw them was high on something and that they happened to write about it and happened to have basically the same beliefs as all the the other high people who happened to write about their halucinogenic trips. i don't buy it.

meanjeanne

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @LaComtesse: preach it!

@jeweltones: I don't know about you, but anytime I get stoned, I either think I'm a character in Harry Potter or try to convince my roommates that pizza is God.

frannyincognito

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Come on. Organized religion has come under fire almost every couple of years. Other than the big atheist movement, I was thinking that nothing interesting was going to happen

MickyK

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> From an article about a guy's ayahuasca experience that was in my old anthropology textbook:

"I was frightened by a deep guttural grunt in the jungle in front of me. A jaguar! Now I was weak AND terrified. But a most extraordinary thing happened: the great cat's roar caused a wave of nausea to well up inside me and I puked as I never had before. Horrible things poured out of me: purple frogs and bloodred snakes and phosphorescent orange scorpions."

He goes on about similar things (including a hallucination of his own death) for about two pages. Now, as much as I do nerdy things regardless of my chemical state, I don't think I'd have the presence of mind to codify my beliefs about social interaction. But some are more gifted, I suppose.

Dolly-At-School

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Wasnt it Terrence McKenna who thought that the description of "manna" in the Old Testament fit the description of magic mushrooms and its mycelium?

wingbatwu

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @pink_orchid: Anything to increase your coffee enjoyment...

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @ratlas: Woah ok a few thoughts--
1. Assholes insult other people. If there happens to be some demographic overlap with people of a certain religion, race, or gender, that doesn't mean you blame the entire religion, race, or gender, you blame the assholes.
2. I don't think that the way to get back at assholes is by returning their insults. Really, that just makes you one of them.
3. I said that this doesn't offend me as a religious person, this offends me as an intelligent person. As it's not a very intelligently concocted theory.

BeckyIva

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @arodriguez.romero: Oh honey: do not open Pandora's Box if you don't love demons... Ha! I could go on, this stuff fascinates me.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> That religion is a fraud? (Duh!) That the moral codes we take for granted, chalking up to an amorphous mix of socialization and/or evolutionary biology and/or something resembling an innate human conscience was concocted under the influence of hallucinogens? THAT RELIGION IS LITERALLY THE OPIATE OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO POOR FOR ACTUAL OPIATES????

Actually, religion is exactly like Hobbes' State of Nature. The people come together and agree to put all their loyalty behind a dictator in exchange for security, never questioning the dictator or his actions, no matter how harsh. Religion is just a way to assuage fears and live in harmony with a group of people who share the same moral code as you (because let's face it, there are different moral codes everywhere and saying that the 10 commandments are it is kind of ethnocentric).

Beanfish

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @LaComtesse: interesting. more discussion of religions please.

arodriguez.romero speaks java

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: Religious people need to be insulted - they so often feel free (or required) to insult and/or persecute others.

Mathmos

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @rocknrollunicorn: A lot of things done in my Lutheran high school made me think "what drugs are these people on?", but "Jesus Christ" is a perfect example.

ArtfulSlingerBARACKED THE VOTE

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @sassymoniker: Exactly. There are much worse things in the Bible, like stoning fornicators and homosexuals. If you'll notice, the Great X has no mention of those things.

PseudoDiva

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @sassymoniker: I understand, but I feel it's also a common misconception. The other religions of the time were no less civilized than the religion of Moses. In fact, the only BIG difference was that the main God of the Hebrews (later Israelites, MUCH later Jews)was Yaweh/El. The religion of Bronze/Iron Canaan/Judah/Israel bears ABSOLUTELY NO resemblance to modern-day Judaism or its philosophies. People had multiple Gods, complete with idols (most commonly goddess figurines called astartes). The 10 commandments are commands you see in LOTS of regional religions of the time (and, there are two sets of ten commandments with small differences within the bible. Crazy stuff, comes from different threads that were all mended together to make the book. whacky stuff.)

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Lady Skittlehattington: *resists marshmallow-stealing/chuckling temptation*
*goes to heaven*
*expelled*

PhoneticLorin

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @LaComtesse: Sure, but what I'm saying is that the ten commandments themselves, compared to other "religious" practices of the times, are not so terrible, really.

sassymoniker

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Yay Karl Marx!

Beanfish

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @sassymoniker: except that ritualize animal sacrifice was the central element of Hebrew/Isralite/Judite religion until the fall of the second temple in the Roman period. Based on text, he wasn't some peaceful, hippie, dippy love one another dude who just wanted everyone to get along.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: Yeah, speaking as a total atheist, I'm offended by these "studies" and "theories". They are an affront to intelligence. These people have no business being historians.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Right, but let's consider that it's not like Moses made up religion. They were just killing goats and pouring all their money into statues to worship in front of. Moses was offering the idea that hey, maybe instead of bowing to gold and killing things and bathing in the blood, how's about we just create a sustainable social order based on not causing harm to other people?
And no good was ever caused by sober people? Maybe this is personal ish, but sometimes I feel like this site is pretty hostile to people who might be struggling with substance abuse issues, for whom sobriety is an issue of life or death. For some people, they only BEGIN to do good things once they get sober.
Sometimes I read these little rants and think, god, grow up. Your childhood scars are showing.

sassymoniker

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> If Moses did make up the 10 Commandments, doesn't it seem more likely that they were chosen very carefully as a way to ensure certain order in society and respect for God? If he was high, I would expect something more like "Though shall not commit adultery with your neighbors unattractive spouse. Go for it the spouse is hot."

Lymed

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @jeweltones: Haha -- but have you ever read the actual chapter and verse of the commandments? Loads of stonerish rambling and repetition "You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth ... or that is any earth that might be under the water UNDER the earth, which, whoah, what if there were, like, another underwater world, beneath the world?"

briardahl

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @PseudoDiva: @LaComtesse: YES so with you. I am religious, and I also studied world religion in college, and I am TOTALLY OPEN to good arguments about the origins of the Bible and religion. But I do get offended by misleading studies that are intended to ruffle feathers. It's insulting to religious people, but it's even more insulting to historians.

BeckyIva

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @blondegrlz: READ them! Do it. I heart him. Lamb is pretty much the only book he doesn't use charecters from his other books in. It is cool because you see the same charecters in new books. @petuniacat: yeah, but I heard about another one this week too so who knows if this is the same one. There seem to be lots of Jesus books coming out. Sheesh. This is totally comical though. But intersting ending... *I won't spoil it for Blondegrlz...

Muffyn

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @NefariousNewt: LOFL. Thank you so much for that!!!!

I think maybe ... Cheech. Or Chong. Where's that box of Count Chocula again...?

ItchykooParker

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!

Dear "Scholars",

Please stop speculating over that which you can by no means EVER EVER prove (see also "What did Jesus REALLY look like?", "Were King David and Jonathan gay lovers?", any element of the personal lives of any Biblical figure) and calling it "Biblical Scholarship" in order to "freak out the establishment." Can I just PRETEND I'm totally freaked out and/or appalled by what you're saying and you can go masturbate in your little corner over how awesome you are forever so you don't do any more bullshit theses? Stick to what you pull off the page and in the ground.

Your Favorite Antiquities Major Specializing in Biblical Lands,
La Comtesse

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Must be I'm the only one here who's ever hung out with stoners, because anybody with experience would know nothing as smart as the 10 commandments would ever come out of a stoner's mouth, let alone that succinctly. If motherfucking only.

jeweltones

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Thank you for replacing my tired anecdote about my dead gecko with this fantastic tidbit. I will be telling everyone I ever have to talk to at a bar about this.

judgingnora

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @PhoneticLorin: *Roasts marshmallows on burning bush in triumph and superiority.*

@ineffable.me: Hehehehe...

Lady Skittlehattington

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: I'm with you. The article is quite misleading. Most people won't read more than the first paragraph but if you do read the whole thing, then you realize this guy doesn't have much to go on. Here's what he says:

"As far Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either, or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics," Shanon told Israeli public radio on Tuesday.

So basically, he's saying, "I don't believe in supernatural events, and I don't believe in legend, but I did drugs one time, and the Hebrews did a lot of drugs (except how does he know this again? Evidence anyone? He's a professor of cognitive psychology) and so maybe Moses did too!"

The fact that the Ten Commandments are a good moral code still stands. They encourage goodwill and love, and respectful relationships with our fellow humans. So who the hell cares how they got here?

I have no problems with people knocking religion. Terrible things are done in God's name. But let's please try to get our facts straight.

PseudoDiva

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @timbnyc44: Hey, I don't think we should discount it cause he was high. I actually think we should take them more seriously. Some of the most brilliant and lucid thoughts people have had have been while they were high. Although for most now it just means drawing a penis on your friends mouth while he's passed out.

shananigans

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @theladyvanishes:

Only if she fought your off. If she's got no bruises--stone the slut!!!!!!!

nowimpissed

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Lady Skittlehattington: I mean, at first I thought this entire post was about HIM. like how i capitalized that? yeah, it's that important. hahaha.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> And this is why I like Moe. It doesn't make sense, except to those who already believe it. Probably not the best marketing strategy, but makes for enjoyable reading.

aspiringexpatriate

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Lady Skittlehattington: *blushes, slinks away with hypothetical tail between non-hypothetical legs*

PhoneticLorin

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> In the town I grew up in, there was a homeless guy called Jesus. He walked around barefoot, in a sheet, 24/7. He also preached that Jesus smoked pot & would read all us kids the bible & point out every single instance that pot was mentioned. He'd also smoke us out. So, I totally believe Moses was loaded...

haggardprincess

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @ineffable.me: AH HA! I knew you were going to say something about covering your neighbor's ox in this thread. How did I know that? I'm just that good.

Lady Skittlehattington

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @petuniacat: is a recovering mormon a foreman?

arodriguez.romero speaks java

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @blondegrlz: As a recovering Mormon who was forced to read the entire King James version of the Bible, I'm sure I'd love the book, too. It's going on my list to hunt down in thrift stores.

@Trashtastic: Not sure - I get them on Netflicks (no HBO or cable). I have one dvd left of season 2 - it's getting so intense! I alternate episodes of Big Love with Six Feet Under to draw both of them out as long as possible. They're my two favorite shows ever.

petuniacat

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @PetiteGal: That would be Afroman. And yes~I am embarrassed to know that!

Elspeth

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @NefariousNewt: @Lady Skittlehattington:
Serious Coffee Snorting.

pink_orchid_martini

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @PhoneticLorin: For shame. Thou shalt not steal and speed away laughing.

Lady Skittlehattington

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Does this justify my pot smoking?
If Moses did it, I can do it, too.

eraserheadpixies (now representing norwegian xanax and JESUS!1!@#!)

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @rocknrollunicorn: My boyfriend in high school looked JUST LIKE Jesus in that movie. It was spooky.

lolly71

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Lady Skittlehattington: Then we can take his weed and leave him and his rules, misogyny, and overly warm 100% camel cloak by the side of the road just like Raoul did to that hitchhiker in "Fear and Loathing."

PhoneticLorin

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @nolovehere: HA! I mean, poor guy, but that's hilarious. Was he suggested that Romans took up the practice of executing people on crosses because they were all on mushrooms?

BeckyIva

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BiscuitDoughJones: LOL Actually it is, at least today. no one else is coming in. Woo and two hoos~!

Trashtastic is proud to be an American!!!!

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> In the words of my gay bf: "Oh Moses...man could do wonders with his staff."

EleanorRigby

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I recommend that John Perkin's book with a disclaimer: "Uh, the last part gets hokey and all kumbayah". Now I know why.

@Trashtastic: Agreed. I work in a very small office where everybody is usually gone by 2:30. I've been very tempted.

nolongerinacubiclestillawhore

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @petuniacat: I heart Big Love!!! When does the new season start anyway???

Trashtastic is proud to be an American!!!!

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @PhoneticLorin: I vote against that. He's always telling me to stop coveting his ass and then laughs like it's the funniest thing since locusts.

Lady Skittlehattington

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @NefariousNewt: HA! So glad you're feeling better! You were missed.

Trashtastic is proud to be an American!!!!

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: agreed...this theory is unfounded and without any merit...poor journalism.

however i had a biology professor in college who was on weed and insisted hallucinogenic mushrooms explains all things involving Jesus...he even drew a shroom on the whiteboard with a cross through it to "explain" the similarities of the shape of both symbols.

nolovehere

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @petuniacat: Yeah, it fills in Christ's childhood from the view of his friend Biff. I think the funniest part about it is being raised very religious, I recognize some of the stories as being in the real Bible, only tweaked a bit. One of the only mentions of Jesus's childhood in the Bible is how his mother lost him at temple and found his debating scripture with the elders...in the book she drags his off by his ear and yells at him, just like I'm sure a mother would. Like I said, I'm really enjoying it. You harlot!

BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Yeah and most Catholic sermons are delivered drunk. Drugs and visions go together like, um, manna and 40 days in the desert?

J.D.Regent

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Lady Skittlehattington: Moses can join us, but only if he brings the weed.

PhoneticLorin

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BrutallyHonestBabes: and monkey poop.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Trashtastic: Unless your job is basically you chained to a desk in an empty facility where no one else is working, I'd say hellz no! Considering all of the pot-related on-the-job accidents I've seen in my day, that's not even something to joke about. Uh, unless you didn't need those fingers and the skin on your forearms anyway, then it's all cool.

BiscuitDoughJones

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I don't believe Mr. Heston ever got high on goofy stuff in his life! He only needs the sweet sweet smell of gunpowder to relax.

BrutallyHonestBabes

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Muffyn: Shut up you harlot!
I doubted all the people on the chick-lit threads saying I would like C.M. just as much but they're totes right. I'm going to read all his books now.

BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @NefariousNewt: Just cover your neighbor's ox. Everyone wins! But make sure you do it on the first of April, otherwise you are going to hell.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I need pot at work!

Trashtastic is proud to be an American!!!!

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @blondegrlz: that was an awesome book! i read it last summer and it is well used from making my friends read it too.

pink_orchid_martini

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @blondegrlz: @Muffyn: Is that the book about the lost years of Jesus's life? If it's the same one I'm thinking of, then this is the second time in a week I've heard good things about it.

@arodriguez.romero: Yup. Like much of the rest of the Bible (and particularly the OT) it's a pretty misogynistic set of rules.

petuniacat

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @PhoneticLorin: Dude.

Lady Skittlehattington

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @aquacombatgurl: i have heard that bibles make excellent rolling paper... im too terrified of smiting to try it myself.

pink_orchid_martini

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @arodriguez.romero: The Mosaic law addresses it pretty thoroughly--rapists die. However, you if raped a single gal, you had to marry her. A skosh problematic, huh?

theladyvanishes

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @katastic: i don't think they are tho. The first three are all about loving god. I say, why?

arodriguez.romero speaks java

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @arodriguez.romero: "Thou shalt not steal." Women are property, remember?

SarahMC

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> OK...now that song that goes "cause I got high, 'cause I got high, 'cause I got high" is in my head. The name of the singer totally escapes me. It was really popular in the late 90s/early 2000s I think.

PetiteGal

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Muffyn: Yeah it is definitely not my thing, but it's interesting to talk to my friend about her experiences!

Dear Blond Diary

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Anybody ever notice that the 10 commandments ignore rape?

arodriguez.romero speaks java

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @sequined: True.

I'm just staying out of this whole conversation. I like weed, I think that basic tenets of the Ten Commandments are good ones, I'm OUT.

katastic

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @NefariousNewt: There's apparently a lot of debate about how strictly to interpret "covet."

sequined

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @blondegrlz: eeee!!!! Christopher Moore= one of my fav authors. Lamb= best book ever!

Muffyn

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @timbnyc44: Yeah, when I'm high all I can come up with are things like "hey, y'all! Let's make a homemade Ouija board! It'll be awesome."

blackbirdfly

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @BeckyIva: Wah, wah, wah. People have been "smearing" these religions as long as they've been around. Hell, Christian people I know thought that the DaVinci Code was a direct attack on their beliefs, instead of just another (fictional, duh) way of looking at things. Who the fuck cares, let people theorize all they want, at least people are out there THINKING about things instead of accepting all the tripe that's being fed to them without question.

BiscuitDoughJones

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> But was the burning bush bright with sister fire?
Okay, I'll stop now.

BAngieB

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @DEARBLONDDIARY: man I could never do that. I get bad trips when I smoke pot. NO WAY I could do anything halucinegenic. In theory I'd like to try, but never ever.

Muffyn

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> And Revelations reads like a bad acid trip.

blackbirdfly

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @lolly71: Watching Jesus Christ Superstar at my Lutheran high school pretty much convinced me of that. Not sure what the teachers were going for with that one.

rocknrollunicorn

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I'm in the middle of Lamb by Christopher Moore (thanks to those who suggested it) and so all my biblical thoughts at the moment come from Biff. I've also decided to start using the world harlot more.

BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> ayahuasca is not like smoking a bowl, at all. From what I hear, it is intense and can be terrifying. It doesn't make you giggle and think you can write good poetry.

Dear Blond Diary

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @aquacombatgurl: I feel less bad about my smoking of a Bible page because I tore out a page of the glossary in my study bible from high school. Makes a decent paper if you really have no other option... And I'm also going to hell. In a handbag though.

stacyinbean

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> my friend does ayahuasca for enlightenment purposes in controlled settings. Sounds intense.

Dear Blond Diary

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Lady Skittlehattington: You, Hunter S. Thompson's ghost, and I have some traffic laws to break.

PhoneticLorin

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I love the movie "The Ten Commandments" with all my heart. It's cheesy and stars Charlton Heston, but I have to watch it every year when it comes on TV at Easter. And I always get all turned on watching Yul Brenner walk around half-naked as the pharaoh. And then I feel all weird cause I know he's dead and it's supposed to be a religious movie and yet, I'm turned on. Aren't you supposed to be Catholic to feel Catholic guilt? Oh, you are a mighty God!

DorothyZbornak

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> They're pretty concrete injunctions - I can't believe someone who is high would come up with, Don't kill, don't steal, etc., instead of, Respect each other, honor each other, etc. The Old Testament God was a real SOB, a true reflection of our worst selves; the rules Moses came up with were just minimal restraints on our worst selves.

it takes a lot to laugh

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I can't say anything nice here, so...

SBJ

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @ineffable.me: I'm not sure if it counts as "coveting"... I mean, "covet" is such a vague word. I mean, I like my neighbor's ox, don't get me wrong, and I think if I save up my beans I too can own one... or at least afford the financing. Still, even if I have my own, my neighbor, it must be said, has a pretty nice ox. I mean, who wouldn't covet it? You'd have to be crazy not to, right? Doesn't mean I'm going to rip off his ox, now does it? I mean -- where would I keep it?

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @tscheese: Oh, duh! This is it: Bicameralism! Julian Jaynes first pioneered the idea in the 1970s.

From the Wikipedia:

Jaynes argued that the bicameral individual was guided by mental commands believed to be issued by external "gods"-the commands which were so often recorded in ancient myths, legends and historical accounts; these commands were however emanating from individuals' own minds.

So like, Jaynes is sayin' that the ancients were all NUTS. Which is why they supposedly heard God all the time.

I don't buy it. I'd rather imagine Moses toking up.

tscheese

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @NefariousNewt: This is PURE SNOW! Do you have any idea what the street value of this mountain is?!

MsDirector

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Leviticus makes so much more sense now. Who else but a paranoid bunch of stoners would fear the evils of a poly-cotton blend?

BritneyCanadaWhore

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @tscheese: I've never heard that, but it's an interesting theory.

Does anyone else watch Big Love? Just last night, I watched the episode where Albie tries to channel his ailing father through his hat. I couldn't stop laughing at the absurdity of it - and yet the congretation was eating it up. And no, Albie didn't appear to be high, although I've always suspected that he's inbred and slightly touched.

petuniacat

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Sigh. Anyone read the article? There is no historical evidence connecting the character of Moses to any drugs. In fact, there's not much historical evidence about the character of Moses, period, except for the Bible. This highly scientific connection was made like this, "Hey, there were drugs in ancient Hebrew culture. AND, Moses lived in ancient Hebrew culture. Maybe he was on drugs!" Publish the study, and it's sensational enough that it spreads instantly, everyone picks it up, jillions of page views, advertisers are happy, money in the bank for everyone. It seems kind of mean to smear the foundation of 3 of the world's largest religions, based on really trite evidence, for a little publicity. Anyone else with me on this?

BeckyIva

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Macloserboy: im going to now.

ScarletBegonias

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> This could go under "No Shit Studies" Wouldn't you have to be high to talk to God, chisel what he said into stone, and then make everyone live by said rules? Not saying that it diminishes their meaning(some of those Commandments are pretty good.) Also, a lot of religions use drugs in order to have a spiritual experience (Native American religions, for example) so the possibility of Moses lighting one up isn't that much of a stretch.

(I give you these 15-- 10! 10 Commandments!)

Sev

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> 1. Thou shalt have no other gods before weed.
2. If it don't look like weed, smell like weed, smoke like weed, don't use it: it ain't weed
3. Don't bother me on Saturday, I'll be smoking up.
4. Honor your elders: they always have the best weed...

so5minutesago

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @Scoregasm: Not to mention, none of those rules are unique to Christianity/Judaism. The bible rips off a shit-ton of philosophers, religions & 'moral codes' like "The Golden Rule."

SarahMC

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Just, duh.

leMaldeTete

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> So who plays Moses in the remake? Cheech, or Chong?

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> What it means is that God loves us and approves of us smoking a bowl. aw yeah.

Catra

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @aquacombatgurl: We've all thought about it in desperate moments.

BritneyCanadaWhore

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @aquacombatgurl: I thought I was the only one who did that??!?! Awesommmmme.

ClockOnTheStove

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I was reading something, SOMEWHERE, about this kind of radical idea. It went something like this: up until a certain point in human evolution, we couldn't distinguish the voices in our head from like, actual voices. Which supposedly is why everyone in the Old Testament is constantly hearing from God.

In the last few thousand years, the theory goes, we evolved the ability in our brains to tell the difference between the voices in our head and actual voices.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I didn't believe it, but it was such an interesting idea.

tscheese

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @ineffable.me: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's stash.

lolly71

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Of course he was "high"... he was on top of a mountain, wasn't he?!? Sheesh... lack of oxygen people. Besides, was anyone actually smoking weed in Biblical times? Mind you, it might not explain the Ten Commandments, but that parting of the Red Sea... somebody was definitely smoking something!

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I've figured Jesus was a pot smoker for a long time. "Man, if everybody would just, y'know, like LOOOOOVE one another, it would be...man, it would be so great!!!"

lolly71

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> @sequined: As much as any other broad, general moral code makes sense, sure. Well, leaving out the "Thou shalt have no other god before me" one. I think any practical set of rules would have to include in the broadest sense don't kill, don't steal, don't be such an envious bitch, etc...Of course, the problem with any set of set-in-stone rules is that there is no room for any sort of interpretation.

Scoregasm

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> yes, only once though. ironically enough, it was while i was smoking a joint rolled from the 23rd psalm (I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: For thou art with me) that I had torn from the spare Bible in the drawer of a room i was boarding in.... i'm going to hell.

aquacombatgurl

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Total rip-off of Hammurabi, dude

briardahl

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> I shall not covet my neighbor's ox.

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Don't tell that to my bible-beating ex-neighbors...no sense of humor or sensible reasoning to be found with any of them.

KathrynwithaY loves Joan Collins

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> "What would Moses do?"

It appears he'd get high, sit on a mountain, fantasize about burning bushes (heh heh) then get all bitchy when the ordinary folks down below had some fun making jewelry and pretty statues. Typical douchey dominator.

petuniacat

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> So the foundation on which society has structured itself was fabricated during a drug trip. Don't you just love humanity?

missbliss

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> That's not my jimson weed, officer. It's God's. I'm just keeping it for him.

Lady Skittlehattington

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> But the ten commandments remain a very practical set of rules, no?

sequined

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> this is the most religion has made sense.

nodoubt9203

]]> <![CDATA[Do We Have The Ten Commandments Because Moses Was High On Ayahuasca?]]> Have you ever read The Bible...on weed!?!

Macloserboy

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