<![CDATA[ - Jezebel Comments]]> <![CDATA[ - Jezebel Comments]]> <![CDATA[]]> haha, okay so i am actually a student at cleveland high school. yes we do have health classes, and no, we don't censor any diagrams of vaginas like some of you are asking about. but even so, it was surprising to see a lot of people, girls included, who didn't know the parts of a vagina.

speakyourmind

]]> <![CDATA[]]> A two-dimensional picture of a vagina is obscene. But a pervert deliberately wanking in front of women in the Tufts library is okay. I think I want to leave the planet.

Neopatra

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I'm a senior at the school in question, Cleveland High School. This vagina article has been the best thing to happen to our school. Especially since we're supposed to get accredited this year and the ridiculously uptight administration is going crazyyy over the fact that we've been dubbed "The Vagina School". The principal, an uptight jerk, managed to offend almost the entire student body by comparing the picture of the vagina to a picture of a swastika or lynching. And he's supposed to be an educator?

mmmchocolate

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: Okay, not who I was thinking of then. (I don't know for sure which college she goes to, but it's somewhere in MA.) Is it like tradition for Vagina Monologue directors to cast the sweetest, most virginal girl as the one who has to fake orgasms on stage?

Panthea

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @dingosmom1: I went through health class last year, and now that I think of it, they told us surprisingly little about the "ladyparts" by the end of one day we knew every tiny little part that cold possibly exist on/in/near a penis, but only the "inside" reproductive organs of a female. Like the cervix and the vaginal wal, fillopian tubes, ovaries, etc. But no clit. Not even the labias.
And I live in PORTLAND, Oregon. I'd always thought my school prided itself on it's "liberality".
They hand out Plan B like tic tacs, but they won't teach us about our clits? We spent time on nocturnal ejaculation, but not "squirting"?
I feel cheated.

Brazz

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Panthea: Haha that DOES sound filthy, but I don't mind in the least. I go to SUNY Buffalo.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @JessicaLovejoy: kudos!

rockin

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: What school do you go to, if you don't mind saying? (If you do mind, just ignore me.) 'Cause I think I might actually know your sweet orgasmic girl, and wow, that sounds WAY filthier than I meant it to.

Panthea

]]> <![CDATA[]]> It's not about obscenity, or appropriateness, it's about disruption. Students have freedom of speech and expression up to a point. Schools legally have the right to pull pretty much anything that causes a disruption to the learning environment, and they've pulled less disruptive shit than this before. Thing is, I think the only people it really disrupts are the adults.

so let's all applaud the kids for pissing off the uppity adults. Because that's their job!

scarlettletter

]]> <![CDATA[]]> um, who in the LA public school system hasn't seen a vag by the time they're in high school? I mean, it's not Amish country here, it's L-freaking-A. The popular thing around here is for uber-spoiled young women to get plastic surgery on their cooches to make them "prettier" and they're worried about a scientific diagram? in an article for a famous rape awareness and female self-love program? LA educators, you're doing wrong.

Beets.Go.On

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @gold_gato:
yes thank you. You said what I meant more clearly and in many less words.

Neon.Wonder

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Clueless was filmed at Cleveland High. Cher would not stand for this.

emzoar

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @BAngieB: Oooooooooooooooh. Why is that better?

buggeroff

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @warmaiden: Kittybits!

rhinestonedarling

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @sparklytoesfairydustbutt: Good point. I've always wondered about that myself.

I think the whole area should just be identified by it's scientific name: Coochie.

Or as my mother called it, "your privates."

littlebunnyfoofoo

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I first heard about this from relatives living in Southern California, who framed it as a "scandal" that a picture of a vagina was on a high school newspaper (even in conjunction with the Vagina Monologues). My male uncles and cousins were laughing about the measures that schools have to take to keep "kids these days" in line. I bristled right away, saying that the fucking POINT of the Vagina Monologues is that diagrams of vaginas shouldn't be considered gross and inappropriate. Their response was surprise at my defense of it. "But it was a HIGH SCHOOL newspaper." So I guess vaginas should be a massively guarded secret until age eighteen; that's healthy.

newscience

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @somaholiday: Maybe we should refer them to the spontaneous orgasm post this afternoon. It'd probably help if they did a couple pull-ups or jogged a while, as it seems to do the trick for a few lucky jezabelles

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Ah, another uptight person...they probably just need to get laid. Sexual frustration, anyone?

somaholiday

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I just sent Grover Cleveland High School some hate mail. I suggest, in the spirit of the vagina, that you all do the same.

sparklytoesfairydustbutt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Why do we even use the word vagina, as oppossed to say, clitoris?! The vagina is technically only the birth canal, and there are obviously so many other parts down there. Is there a PC word for the whole thing? A PC word used to describe all the parts together, like the way we use the word vagina? It seems like we should be saying clitoris rather than vagina since I think vagina is mostly derived from the patriarchal view of what we have down there (sorry for saying down there). If it was a matriarchal word would we use clitoris instead?

sparklytoesfairydustbutt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @snidelywhiplash: Or The Vagina Slices.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Coupla thoughts:

1) Vagina diagrams are apparently only acceptable only if they're the section type - you know, a slice of a vagina, rather than the frontal view. (Slice of Vagina...punk grrl band name?)

2) Someone should tell these kids to start an underground newspaper/magazine. No school funds, no school control! Paper's cheap. Fuck the principal.

snidelywhiplash

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @sequined: I think my teacher was mildly moronic, and she did. She was also in her 40's, married, with two kids, and couldn't say erection without laughing. Sigh.

@NefariousNewt: I like it! Consider the question revised.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @JessicaLovejoy: I could've benefitted from this in high school.

Zlevee

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I attended a public high school NEAR Los Angeles for seventh and eighth grade. In health class, they actually made us draw our own diagrams, copying out of the book.

I think the teacher may have done it entirely for his own amusement.

lynxwings

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @bexxlikerex:
Do you like sex, Mr. Lebowski?
Excuse me?
Sex. The physical act of love. Coitus. Do you like it?
I was talking about my rug.
You're not interested in sex?
You mean coitus?







meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I lovingly call my vagina Maude, as a tribute to Maude Lebowski. Really, what would she do?

momservo

]]> <![CDATA[]]> My art has been commended as being strongly vaginal which bothers some men. The word itself makes some men uncomfortable. Vagina.They don't like hearing it and find it difficult to say whereas without batting an eye a man will refer to his dick or his rod or his Johnson.

bexxlikerex

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @lalaland13: You should be IN the local production. That's where the most fun is. Plus, dudes love you for doing it because then they think you're easy, and you can have loads of fun stringing them along and proving that just because you attend sex toys parties and like monologues about your cooter doesn't mean you'll fuck any piece of garbage that is tossed at you.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: Question 7. I do want/do not want you to force your penis all the way to the back of my throat. Circle one!

sumac

]]> <![CDATA[]]> All this is making me wonder if I should go see the local production of The Vagina Monologues, especially because @meaghan2k: I don't drink and uh, the common reaction to the second thing you mentioned? I don't do that either. Well, not with other people.

lalaland13

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: You might re-phrase # 5: "If you ram me like a jackhammer, do you think I'll enjoy it?"

And in answer to question 3, it has been my experience that women like it to be touched, but gently, and that there is quite a good deal of sensitivity around it.

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @LilahCello: I'm picking up what you're throwing down, but at least showing a sterile, boring drawing of a vagina is a start.

No, I've never seen a vagina. In all my 23 years of owning on myself, I never thought about taking a gander down there.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @meaghan2k: Duh, have you ever SEEN a vagina? All wet and foldy? Gross. (Please, everyone, note the immense sarcasm in my words. I'm one of those "vagina lovers.")

Actually, sometimes I DO think that the way we present bodies "scientifically" is more indecent than just presenting them as is. Not that either is indecent or obscene. I don't know how to explain what I mean. I guess I wish that we didn't have to cloak our bodies in "science" in order to make them acceptable.

LilahCello

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @skinnybonejones: Seriously, stop flirting with me. And, while you are definitely bringing the hotness, it's your tomboy GF that I'm after.

BAngieB

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @jewess: Awesome. That's exactly what I thought.

Hamsterpants

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @gold_gato: I think that it could be used a tool for violence awareness. I think on some level, people are afraid of what they don't know. I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, that someone could be afraid of a vagina, but I think the more we know (in an appropriate, respectful manner) about each other's bodies then perhaps people would be a little less violent towards them.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: Except that Washington State doesn't teach abstinence-only sex ed. It's in the state law somewhere. We rejected federal sex-ed funding because its terms (abstinence only) conflicted with our state terms. So if your HS taught abstinence only, they were doing it against the official policy of the state of Washington.

sequined

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @NefariousNewt: This is negotiable. Would you like to help me write it?
Question 1. Is the clit a real body part?
Question 2. Where is it?
Question 3. Do you have to actually TOUCH it, or is being in the ballpark close enough?
Question 4. Does it feel good if you blow on it?
Question 5. Does ramming me like a jackhammer feel fabulous?
Question 6. Begging for sex - hot, or not?

Suggestions, additions, or corrections?

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @meaghan2k: I'm just saying they knew the school would find it inappropriate (not obscene), and I don't really believe that they are fighting for this diagram out of "violence awareness," or because they believe high schoolers should know what a vagina looks like, or because they want people to not be ashamed to see one on a paper. And if they were, this was the wrong platform, and in my opinion, the wrong way to go about it. Hopefully one day, but it is a slow fight, and like you said, the Vagina Monologues is racy, and its mention in the paper is a step. I know my HS back in the day would have never allowed it!

I am also obviously clueless on how to respond properly with the @ username method. eek!

gold_gato

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: Yeah, I was in them up at college one year, and the girls that I did it with were awesome, and then we had a sex toys party with a lot of wine...The Vagina Monologues are not only meant to make you aware, but they're also meant to get you really drunk and pretty horny.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @meaghan2k: They now call home ec. "consumer sciences." It makes it sound more legitimate and worthwhile.

vanessaL

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: So is this quiz multiple choice? I ask merely for information.

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @meaghan2k: They did the VM at my school last year, and the sweetest and most conservative girl I've ever met did the one about the different types of orgasms (complete with OHHHHH YESSSSSSS!!!! and foot stomping. Her sweet self went all out!) and even I was a little hot by the end of it. Not to mention the blond bombshell with giant fake tits whose dress slipped and we all got a giant nip show. It was more explicit than they meant it to be, I think :)

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: Writing on a passed out dudes face is NEVER indecent. It is ALWAYS hysterical. Come over to my house and I'll show you pictures that prove it.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @meaghan2k: My brother just had to take a cooking class and he actually learned useful stuff! Normally that doesn't happen for him at school.

rocknrollunicorn

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @gold_gato: Well, I'd rather they use a proper drawing of a vagina to get people's attention than by other means. It was an article about THE VAGINA MONOLOGUES. Have you heard any of them before? Some of them are really explicit. This drawing of a vagina is fucking tame compared to some of those bad girls.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: Also, what Meaghan said.
Most people know what penises look like. Unlike penises, vaginas are considered dirty and shameful among 99% of the world's population.


SarahMC

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @sumac: I think I need to just start giving a short quiz before my pants come off. The last guy I fooled around with gave me an incredible orgasm in 5 minutes or less - he would have passed the quiz, and been let into my bed since he cleeeeeeeearly knew where everything was. Mr. Lazy Fingers Most certainly would not have passed and I might have been spared all the annoyance. I think we should all implement this policy - If you can't find it, you can't play with it.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @meaghan2k: *hole. HAHA HOLD. Like you're wrestling it. That little mistake cracked my shit up.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: I see your point. This article did not call for a diagram of a vagina in the way a sex-ed class would, or even another article might. They printed the diagram of a vagina for shock value and they knew what would happen. I don't buy their "What? I don't understand the big deal, it's only a vagina!" schtick either.

gold_gato

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: YOUR vagina is plastered everywhere?

SarahMC

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: Heavens to Betsy - I wouldn't have thought medical pictures of body parts would be objectifying women. Now, putting Sharpie penises all over desks and drunk kids who've passed out may be objectifying men, but attaching a realistic and factual diagram (which is not sexual or pornographic beyond the fact that people think this body part should be revealed only to a select few) to a school newspapers shouldn't be seen as objectifying anyone. Vaginas - 51% of us got em. Plus, they were advertising for the Vagina Monologues. Is the show objectifying women?

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Sukie in the Graveyard: It does produce about 10% of the Vitamin K we need but, yeah, it's kinda like the Columbia House Record club-- it seemed like such a good idea at the time and now we're stuck with it.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: They are anatomical drawings of vaginas. And, despite what you may think, a very large percentage of the female (and most of the male) population have NO IDEA what is going on down there. And that's because women are taught to think of their vaginas as naughty bits, dirty things that need to be clean and sacred and smell like a god damn meadow.

I don't really see the "women's movement" buying copies of Hustler and stamping twats all over town. You're obviously missing the point. And if you're not impowered by the idea of the human race understanding each other and how their bodies work, well, sorry about that one too. The more you make things taboo, the more problems you will have. So keeping the vagina under lock and key is completely bogus and completely unfair to the rest of the world, because vaginas rock when you know them in the right context (as in, you know how to work the clit and you know what hold to stick it in.)

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: well, 'cos peni run the world, no need for peen representation. remember, this appeared in a school newspaper called LE SABRE.

VAGINA! OLE`!

Charlotte Corday

]]> <![CDATA[]]> It's because to me, It's the same as objectifying women. Now, instead of naked chicks everywhere, it's just going to be common place to plaster vaginas everywhere? Which women is this movment impowering? Not me. I don't feel awesome about my vagina now that it's plastered everywhere and talked about all the time. Where are the Penis monolouges? Where is the fight for Penis diagrams? It makes me feel like one more thing about women thats just going to make it even easier to objectify us. Nothing is sacred anymore.
There's always all this backlash about objecfying women, and how clothing ads are too racey... etc... but wait, I know how to fix it! Lets loose all grace and plaster vaginas everywhere! That'll do it.
Please.

And I'm not some old classy lady or parent. I only graduated a few years ago.



Neon.Wonder

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @LaComtesse: I wonder if anyone would ever sign up for Appendix? That just screams "Kick me out, I'm worthless."

Sukie in the Graveyard

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @sumac: oooh, installation art! throw in something weird/macabre in formaldehyde and we could sell that to charles saatchi for his gallery. make a mint, we would!

Charlotte Corday

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: it went out of fashion with foot binding and corsets.

Charlotte Corday

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: How is something 50% of the population has indecent? You know what's indecent? Allowing young girls play with Bratz dolls. But a cooch presented in a scientific manner is not indecent. Nor would a penis be. If actual vaginas and penises belonging to the student body were shown, yes, that would be indecent. But not what they did.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: Yargh, how frustrating. You should just print out the graphic that accompanies this article and paste it above your bed. Keep a laser pointer on your night stand.

sumac

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @flackette: whoda thought?!

@Neon.Wonder: IT WAS A SCIENTIFIC DRAWING OF A VAGINA! They teach it in school, in sex ed hopefully. There's nothing inappropriate about it. VAGINA!

Le Kangourou de Kataroo

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Neon.Wonder: What is indecent about vaginas?

"I'm all for openess, freedom of speech, young kids being taught properly about sex... but c'mon. Putting this in a school magazine is so inappropriate."

You just contradicted yourself.

SarahMC

]]> <![CDATA[]]> oh c'mon. That is totally inapropriate. People really think that something like that should be on the cover of a school newspaper? Of course they would act with the same response if it were a penis. Please people, I'm all for openess, freedom of speech, young kids being taught properly about sex... but c'mon. Putting this in a school magazine is so inappropriate. What ever happened to decency?

Neon.Wonder

]]> <![CDATA[]]> In defense of the principal in this situation, if he hadn't pulled the paper, you just know some uptight parents would have been wanting to burn the school down and throw his ass in jail. Doubtful his intent was to protect innocent young minds but rather to save his own skin from the "Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion" type mommies. You know the kind.

Why do I always have to look at both sides? Damn me!
Vagina vagina vagina. VAAAGGIINNNNAAAA!

littlebunnyfoofoo

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @NefariousNewt @katastic: comment of the day, and my new away message. I love Jezebel for that, I haven't had to think up something on my own since I started hanging out at this place. You all are much funnier and more creative than I can ever hope to be. It's why I love you!

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> REally? California? I thought they were progressive.

hammerimissu

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @BAngieB: PS. Not that I'm flirting with you or anything, but I totally have on an L-Word suit thing today. I didn't realize it until I had already left the house. POWER DYKE!

buggeroff

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @meaghan2k: OK< new best comment of the day!

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @kataroo_kangaroo: See. I'll be the first to admit I didn't originate the idea.

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @katastic: Vaginas: Snatch them up while you still can.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @skinnybonejones: Yes, as discussed earlier, I am not well-educated on the ways of the ween. However, baginas? That's a whole different situation.

BAngieB

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Vaginas: There's No Place Like Home.

katastic

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @jewess: Bleached?

flackette is frustrated

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @sumac: Not much has changed in college, I'm afraid. I find it sexually frustrating that plenty of nice looking men think that "in the general area" will do the trick. They're probably the same ones flackette was talking about. Turns out, they're wrong. Really, really wrong.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> That's one tiny anus

jewess

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @kataroo_kangaroo: Turns out if you blow on it they get really confused.

flackette is frustrated

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @SarahMC: Yes, it was a public school, the only middle school in the county (and thus the only option). My entire school existence through high school graduation can be described as an attempt to turn us all into Sheeple.

flackette is frustrated

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @NefariousNewt: LIke in Stranger Than Fiction! I love that part of the movie, when she talks about paying taxes for parks and streets and libraries and schools but not for war.

Le Kangourou de Kataroo

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @NefariousNewt: You may be asking for a 100% return if you do that. Look into adding further stipulations about just what you mean by "use them for dumb-ass things."

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @flackette: I was so confused about the term "blowjob" until I started reading really trashy romance novels. Made no sense to me before that...

Le Kangourou de Kataroo

]]> <![CDATA[]]> This is why I'm glad I grew up in Iowa. It's one of the only states where high school newspapers are protected speech. The papers don't need to be vetted by an adult. As a high school newspaper editor, of course, I took full advantage of this by publishing pro drug legalization articles in almost every issue. Anatomically specific drawings of vaginas is a much better idea though. The guys in my class largely needed maps where the clit was concerned.

sumac

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @flackette: Public schools are just training camps for future unquestioning corporate drones.

(I'm assuming this was at a public school. I LOVED my public school education but the argument can be made that their purpose is to turn children into sheep.)

SarahMC

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Sukie in the Graveyard: But Suuuuuuuuukiiiiiiiiiiiiiie; that controls autonomic human responses and impulseeeeeeeeeeees! No fair. Heh. That's fine. I want the Pancreas. It's by far our funniest internal organ.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: You bet your sweet vagina it is! Makes me want to put a stipulation on when I pay my taxes that if they're going to use them for dumb-ass things, I want my money back.

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @flackette: Are you serious? That I can't even begin to understand.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Can Richard be the new Jezebel mascot? He can be in charge of tee-shirt designs that promote whatever the hell Jezebelles would like to promote. :)

@LaComtesse: Dibs on Medulla Oblongata.

Sukie in the Graveyard

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Back when sex ed existed, for those of you younger than I am (our diagrams were all ovaries and fallopian tubes) did they show the clit? Boys of my age knew nothing. It's such a good idea to teach them, and if they won't do it elsewhere, the school paper seems good.

Rarely do I say...Today's teenagers rock!

Mrs. DeLesseps To You, Dahling

]]> <![CDATA[]]> The best part about this-- it didn't prevent the kids from seeing a diagram of a vagina or knowing what the paper said.

@LuxLisbon: Slut diagram. Corrupting our youth with her whoring ways.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Oh and btw if I remember right from my media law class, to be classifed as obscene material has to be designed to titillate (hee, love that word). A medical-style diagram would not do that unless you have some really weird fetishes.

flackette is frustrated

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @flackette: AMEN! I don't know that I'm really willing to make like Kathy Bates in Fried Green Tomatoes and grab a mirror. I think I'd rather have the diagram and then play around with myself at a later point to see how it all matches up.
I dated a guy once who I think would get distracted (with what, I don't know) and would literally leave his fingers in me, doing NOTHING. Like they'd be just chillin until I'd be like 'seriously? Get back to work.' Five minutes later, rinse and repeat. Ridiculous. Man could use some diagrams, if you ask me.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @LuxLisbon: hell, just stay out of saudi arabia all together! unless you're a saudi dude, but then, i think they should all be quarantined there together, no women, no children, just saudi dudes with their imams and korans and prayer beads. the perfect islamic state.

Charlotte Corday

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Quietly: When I was in 8th grade my middle school BFF and I did a survey in homerooms about students' attitudes toward women (well, we were girls then really). Stuff like whether they should earn equal pay or be able to take any job they wanted. Some teachers did NOT like it. We were eventually barred from putting the results in the school paper I believe.

And now I ask, what were we doing so wrong that pissed those teachers off so much? Talk about a rough introduction to how it really is in the world.

flackette is frustrated

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @BAngieB: Vaginas are DA BOMB. Actually. La la la, I heart VAGINAS!

buggeroff

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @BAngieB: Ween! Woe is ween!

buggeroff

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Teenagers (boys and girls) are probably the population most desperately in need of some education on how the vagina works. The girls for their own general knowledge of self, the boys so they don't go around blowing on clits and asking why their annoyed girlfriend hasn't come.

flackette is frustrated

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @skinnybonejones: Because vaginas are bad - duh.

BAngieB

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @charlotte corday: That reminds me of American Dad, where Francine sings "So if you've got a vagina, a vulva, a clitoris and a labia, stay the hell away from Saudi Arabia!"

Lux Lisbon

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Why are people so fucking hysterical? Really. I want to know why.

buggeroff

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @TaraIncognita: e-chicken soup is VERY much appreciated! Some warm e-tea and a good book are being sent your way. Or a fifth of whiskey, whichever you think will kick the cold faster.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I never worked on the school paper, but I was taking an introduction into literary journalism class when a big panic forced the fabulous journalism teacher and almost the full journalism staff to resign.

The kids published a pretty scathing issue with articles about abstinence-only eduction, the lack of funding for planned parenthood/free clinics, and a few smaller articles along those lines. It didn't end well for them.

The few kids who weren't forced to quit got out of it by issuing retractions over the PA and writing pro-life, anti-sex articles the next month. The new team of kids sucked, too. The faculty got rid of a lot of talented writers.

I had almost forgotten about that until I read this article. Makes my blood boil x 1000.

Quietly

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Seriously, its not!: Yes, I do make a face - kind of a scrunchy nose thing - but that's because I'm a lezebel.
But, seriously, our sex ed was excellent and the teacher kicked ass.


BAngieB

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I'm unclear on how the diagram raised awareness about violence against women..? And while the school does sound too uptight, in their defense: "Happy Vagina Day" complete with a diagram? Parents would have been in an uproar most likely. It seems as though the newspaper was trying to stir up some trouble.

gold_gato

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Now... How would the principal know that that was going to be distributed? Is he regularly checking the journal out to see if anything needs to be censored or has anyone gone (Jack Bauer voice):"Mr. Principal! they've printed a vagina diagram in the journal! we need to stop distribution NOW!"?!?

Josie

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Oh, wait! I see why they were mad! This particular vagina's hymen is no more! Is the vagina married? I don't see a wedding ring labeled anywhere in that diagram! Outrage totes understandable now.

Lux Lisbon

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @LuxLisbon: thank you! i'm just so damn bored if this anti-woman crap. whenever i see it, i just think "no, thank you. but i think they have an open berth for you IN SAUDI ARABIA!

Charlotte Corday

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @BAngieB: Yes- but do you make a scrunchie face like a 5 year old while saying it?
I think we had sex ed- but it was taught by a person who clearly never had sex- kinda like the coach from Mean Girls (minus the Asians)

Seriously, its not!

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I'm proud of the kids who fought back through the t-shirts.

shiningstar

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @charlotte corday: Well put!

Lux Lisbon

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @NefariousNewt: At least the anatomy of the part-which-shall-not-be-named is one thing which won't change in a few years, unlike our kickass 20-year old history books which are still reeling from the whole Nixon shindig. Question - is this the same tax dollar which supports the abstinence-only education we got as high schoolers? They're fooling no one with the "your vagina won't be there until you're married..TO.A.MAN" logic.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Seriously, its not!: I did have sex education every year (thanks, Hillary!), and I still call them weens.

BAngieB

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I want a shirt that says, "My vagina may be obscene but your face is ugly."

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> proof once again that the mullahs know obscenity when they see it and, surprise, surprise, it usually looks like a WOMAN.

Charlotte Corday

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I'm not really certain how a diagram of a vagina raises awareness about violence against women, but I like it anyway.

tell Dolly Parton again

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @NefariousNewt: We had them when I was in middle school, not high school, and that was 11 years ago. And my Home Ec teachers were definitely furries in disguise, so I'm sure ol' Bobby Marks would really have enjoyed them.

Home Ec. Completely useless if co-ed. All it was was boys throwing shit around, most of the girls trying and me, complaining to the teacher that I shouldn't have to do anything if the boys aren't doing anything.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: I have a cold, too. Sending you e-chicken soup.

TaraIncognita

]]> <![CDATA[]]> In high school I worked on the Spanish-language newspaper staff, and someone was given the job of selecting a poem to publish for Valentine's Day. They picked something lovely by Pablo Neruda that apparently contained one line that extolled the beauty of the woman's nether region, comparing it to a rose I think. The teacher had a fit, but no one really noticed at school cause, you know, who reads the Spanish newspaper?

Lux Lisbon

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @BiscuitDoughJones: I'm surprised they even got away with talking about the Vagina Monologues, let alone the drawing.

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> As someone who has worked with high school kids that had their newspapers censored, this happens all the time. It happens when kids write about safe sex. It happens when they write about homosexuality and it happens a lot when they write about teen pregnancy or abortion.

High school presidents can be punks.

rkmc12

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Heh. Our vaginas have vestibules. Isn't that like where you leave your hat and umbrella?

Hamsterpants

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @NefariousNewt: Oh absolutely - I was talking with a 12 year old about it just the other day! Except now it's called something PC so it doesn't sound so femmy. But you can bet your ass they're still making cinnamon rolls and sewing pillows. And the boys have to do it, too.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @FourInchHeels: No, because those diagrams are part of the textbooks paid for lovingly by your tax dollar. And they're damned well going to use them!

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I agree that it was stupid to stop the paper over this. Dumbasses. BUT, this totally reminds me of this one time, in 11th grade, during spirit week, on costume day, when I dressed as a protester. My sign had a peace sign on one side, and "make love, not war" on the other. I was called to the principal's office and man was he mad.

BAngieB

]]> <![CDATA[]]> If young Richard was of legal age, I have a feeling there would be some Jezebelles crushing on him (and let's face it, there probably are anyway).

@kataroo_kangaroo: Comment of the day!

hfree

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I think people need to learn about baginas and weens in school.
I mean- look at me- my school didn't teach it and I call them baginas and weens.

Seriously, its not!

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @RosemaryF: To clarify, the quote was either taken out of context, or the dude was just...saying shit wrong.

RosemaryF

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @BiscuitDoughJones: As much as I love my hometown, maybe this school should get together with the Seattle Times and talk about how inappropriate vaginas really are - both the stylized and the not-so-stylized. Totally unfit to ever be seen by the human eye. Basically, women are dirty.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @meaghan2k: Or go bang the Home Economics teacher in the supply room. Are there still Home Ec teachers?

NefariousNewt

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I don't think that a vagina picture is that big of a deal, but the argument that it increases awareness of violence against women? I don't see the link.

Increase awareness of Vagina Monologues, yes. Violence? No.

RosemaryF

]]> <![CDATA[]]> While it is a bit much for the school newspaper, way to blow it out of proportion. The kids wanted to make a point, and the school practical build them a perfect platform. When will they learn opression has NEVER curbed teenage behavior, it just gives them a focus.

Leiakat

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Here's the plan. Everyone in school get a shirt that has the name of a different body part on it. "Arm", "Foot", "Navel", "Anus", "Uvula", "Vagina"... then ask why certain kids were weeded out as obscene. I DEFINITELY want a "My vagina is obscene" t-shirt.

@Archetype: Yes, but I suspect the vagina in question had anti-semitic leanings.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[]]> wait just a second! the school paper is called LE SABRE and they're objecting to anatomically correct vagina diagrams?

far fucking out!

Charlotte Corday

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Does this mean health books are disallowed, too? In high school, mine had diagrams of the lady bits, and we all know how vulgar vaginas really are. I mean, your mother had one and we all know you think she's a saint, but let me guess - that's different. It's just the rest of the vaginas that are obscene.

@kataroo_kangaroo: Given the wicked cold I've got at the moment, my sad lamenting that my vagina is unseen lately would sound suspiciously like obscene.

FourInchHeels

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @vonnegurl: I want that shirt too!

gracious

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Snowbunny: I'd say it's pretty immature to consider a vagina diagram unsuitable for teenage eyes.

SarahMC

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @LuxLisbon: jinx

h_a_l

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @JessicaLovejoy: Mr. Marks probably confiscated it because he's having trouble locating it himself...

tetracycloide

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @blondegrlz: If you can say vagina on the Today show, you should be able to wear a vagina t-shirt to school.

But ya can't say 'cunt'!
Cuntcuntcuntcunt.


TaraIncognita

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I always thought LA was more liberal than the midwest I grew up in. Apparently not.

LoLoren

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Snowbunny: How is it "immature" to mark the performance of the Vagina Monologues with a diagram of that particular piece of the human anatomy? They were trying to spread awareness, not execute some fratboy prank. Geez.

BiscuitDoughJones

]]> <![CDATA[]]> don't they teach health/sex ed at this school? or is that too obscene? I mean, my health class was chock full o' diagrams like that one. I think we even had plastic models

h_a_l

]]> <![CDATA[]]> It's a DIAGRAM. Do they not teach anatomy in this school? They may have actually been able to copy that picture out of one of their textbooks! Or is this one of the schools that puts those big gold censorship stickers over all the dirty pictures in the books?

Lux Lisbon

]]> <![CDATA[]]> I think a dude wearing a shirt that said "my vagina is obscene" would have been mercilessly mocked at my school, regardless of how valid his point was.

friendlynerd

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Epic high-fives to the t-shirt people in this story. Being a proud shit-disturber myself, I feel proud knowing others are willing to put themselves in the line of fire.

boss_lady

]]> <![CDATA[]]> "Don't let the students find out some of them have VAGINAS!!!"

SarahMC

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @JessicaLovejoy: hysterical!

AnastasiaBeaverhousen

]]> <![CDATA[]]> @Snowbunny: it wasnt a picture! it was a diagram!

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Um, I so badly want a shirt that says "my vagina is obscene." in high school i was the president of the feminist book club, and when we read the vagina monologues I took particular pleasure in making lunch announcements and really belting out the V-word. in fact, i still take pleasure. VAGINA.

vonnegurl

]]> <![CDATA[]]> That's because everybody knows you don't have a vagina until after marriage.

At least that's Texas' position.

@JessicaLovejoy: Awesome.

lalaland13

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Wow. I'm sure those kids at that school weren't having sexual relations at ALL with each other before that scientific picture of the vagina showed up. Now I'm sure they're all pill-poppers and the girls are all sorts of knocked up because of it.

Nice job, Vagina-Stopper Bob Marks. You've saved the youth of America.

Now, head home and jerk off to that furry porn video you downloaded this morning.

meaghan2k

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Also, my vagina *is* obscene - I would like one of those t-shirts to advertise my naughty, naughty kittybits.

warmaiden

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Holy crap, I can't say I think it was right or mature to put a picture of a vagina in a school newspaper, but it sure was funny.

Go kids go!

And my vagina IS obscene

Sunbunny

]]> <![CDATA[]]> It's a vagina, not a swastika.

Archetype

]]> <![CDATA[]]> But I bet co-ed naked shirts are fine in school, and that girls get called "hos" on a regular basis.

Jeebus wept.

warmaiden

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Good going dude!

ineffable.me

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Good work, children! I love it when schools get national press for their prissiness and intolerance.

tailfeather

]]> <![CDATA[]]> If you can say vagina on the Today show, you should be able to wear a vagina t-shirt to school.
Vagina vagina vagina.


BlondeGrlz

]]> <![CDATA[]]> Richard Edmond....you are going to be one popular dude at college.

Rhody

]]> <![CDATA[]]> God forbid a teenage boy know where the clit is.....

JessicaLovejoy: Heart of Dykeness

]]> <![CDATA[]]> That's funny, my vagina is obscene too! If "obscene" means tragically hasn't seen a penis in months.

I need to work on my vocabulary.

Le Kangourou de Kataroo

]]> <![CDATA[]]> On the one hand, I like to think they'd have the same reaction to a drawing of an anatomically-correct penis. On the other, I suspect they wouldn't.

TheFormerJuneBronson

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