<![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love? - Jezebel Comments]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love? - Jezebel Comments]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> "but something about a man refusing to eat meat seems sort of...sissy-like."

are you flippin' kidding?!?!?!? My dad is a vegitarian, he's 6'6", works 60 hours a week outside, and owns more tools than a Sears.

AuntieEm

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I've been a vegetarian for 12 years. I think male vegetarians are hot.

alysbrangwin

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I have a lot of male friends who are vegetarian/vegan. My boyfriend used to be vegetarian, mostly for cholesterol reasons (but he would say "all of the reasons"), but now we eat bacon and can't get enough of it. Mmmm, bacon grease is good in everything... My friend in college was super-vegan, but now he eats salmon and chicken (but still VERY healthy). My other friend Dave is still vegetarian, hehe.

JRae

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I love reading these threads because some of the meat-eaters come across as so defensive and--dare I say--smug and preachy?

statolith

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @lisas: hell YES.

statolith

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> i haven't met a male vegetarian who hasn't been incredibly self-satisfied. the worst ones are also preachy but it's the smugness, the i've-got-it-all-figured-out attitude, that makes me want to slug them across the kisser with a bife de chorizo.

bruitdautrui

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @TWSS: SO going to beast soon. that's just down the street from me! I haven't been so excited about a restaurant menu since I saw the dinner menu for Simpatica.

perfunctory

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I'm surprised that no-one had commented on this line from the NY Times article: "She and her daughter have 'meat parties' when Mr. Benson goes out of town."

That...just sounds hilariously wrong.

laughingacademy

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> My brother used to eat meat like it was his job. He's now a strict VEGAN because his fiancee turned him. Even though I admire people for having so much self-control, I kinda hate it. I feel like she's turned him into something he's not, you know?

thanksluckystars

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> i know i'm quite late in the game here...but i used to be a vegetarian, now i am not - fiance still is. i "campaign" for him to join me on the "winning team" - i put campaign in quotes because i do it playfully (while dangling a raw piece of bacon in front of his face, natch). but seriously...what the shit was i thinking all of those non-meat-eating-years? thanks to being a vegetarian for so long, i now have an unhealthy (literally and figuratively) obsession with bacon. delicious, amazing bacon.

amberto

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I'm still working my way through the mass of comments but wanted to throw this out there anyway. Both Mr. Tigerjade and I are vegetarians. He went first; he had to do an inspection at a meat processing facility, came home and said, "That's it for me! No more meat." I thought it was a neat idea & went along, although I strung out fish for a while longer. Now I abhor meat, although it stops at my plate. The most I do is tease my officemate for being allergic to vegetables. :>

He's no sissy. Former artillery in the Army, prefers his pickup to my Volvo, plays hard and loves, well, you know. He is what he is; being a vegetarian is part of that but didn't change him from the incredibly desirable man he always has been.

tigerjade

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> The gross generalizations about vegetarians and vegans in so many of the comments here are just sad.

I'm vegan. I'm no skinny bitch and I don't preach. I wouldn't date an omnivore because I'm just not willing to compromise on something that's so important to me. My SO is vegan and sexay as hell, but you will have to take my word for it, because I'm not sharing.

That said, I call bullshit on veggies who say eating meat will make them sick because they've "lost their ability to digest it." That's just silly and makes you look like an idiot. Grow some balls and speak up for your beliefs honestly, or shut up and eat your lettuce sandwich because that's what you get when you don't make a real case for your dietary choice.

@BritneyCanadaWhore: I can vouch.

Immolator

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I'm a life-long vegetarian, and my fiance eats meat. I think I'm much more tolerant of meat eaters, and even the occasional shared grill, than people who converted later out of principle. Growing up we made a lot of compromises in the meat-eating world: pulling the pepperoni off pizza at birthday parties; eating "burgers" from fast-food places that contained lettuce, pickle and cheese; watching the rest of the extended family eat turkey on Thanksgiving, but still fighting to pull apart the wishbone. Eventually, my brother, the one boy out the four, was the only sibling to start eating meat, to fit in on the Boy Scout camping trips. It was just that most people ate meat, not out of a disregard for animal life or even out of a conscious choice, and we weren't going to change them or condemn them or stop loving them.

sinistrorse

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Shevek: I concur!

If anything, we should realize the pervasiveness of societal gender roles that have affected even the Jezebel writers.

Oh, and I love meat but the bf does not. And so what? I laud his ethics and his self control.

Tisiphone

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I wonder if that guy found her farty bloated stomach and irregular menstrual cycle to be "unenlightened and disturbing"?

ie: processed soy "food" can do a number on ya.

oceanminded

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @FrostyTempleton: hmm. Omni's Dilemma didn't do much for me. I read it shortly after I read Fast Food Nation and subsequently went veg. I think it was so soon after the graphic horror of FFN that OD didn't resonate with me nearly as strongly.

shanaynay

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> God, what vegan men have you all been hanging out with? All vegan guys I know are ridiculously hot, and, frankly, tough. Ever have a straight-edge boyfriend? I did. Hot, and kind of scary. I was vegan for 9 years, and had mostly carnivore boyfriends... no big deal. Kind of a cute thing to tease each other about.

SarahMcL

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> A friend of mine lived in a flat of vegans who had a sticker on their fridge saying "meat is murder". They wouldn't let her even bring meat in the house.
What annoys me more is the picky eaters. I had a flatmate who said he didn't like onions, and if he found even a tiny piece in his food he would stop eating. But when I pureed them and put them in chilli con carne (he didn't know) he said it was his favourite meal.

Tessie

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Brianne: @TWSS: @serreca: I'm in Eugene (don't get much crunchier than that). One last comment: everyone should read The Omnivore's Dilemma.

FrostyTempleton

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Agrado: occasional cheese is what keeps me from being completely vegan. You can have the milk and eggs, but cheese is hard.

However, I try to keep it to the absolute minimum, because a pound of cheese takes ten pounds of milk to make, so it's incredibly resource-intensive, and dairy is ridiculously inhumane. The things those cows go through will make your hair stand on end.

shanaynay

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I was a vegetarian for 7 years and none of my best friends were. We used to cook all the time together without a problem. I've dated guys that ate meat and I didn't care. I eat meat now and if a guy was a veggie, why would I care? Especially when you go out to eat, you order different things. I don't trust vegans though. Anyone who doesn't eat cheese is not a friend of mine.

Agrado

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Wow, I'm so disappointed by the comments here on vegans and vegetarians! I'm a vegan, and I hate when people say they hate veggies who "push their views on other people" or who are "judgmental". I don't know ANY veggies that are judgmental- I usually don't even tell people I'm a vegan because the MEAT EATERS are so completely obnoxious about it- hounding me with stupid questions, douchey statements, and general nastiness. It's too bad you people all met one or two idiot vegans and generalized about all of us.

The last two boyfriends I had were meat eaters, and became vegetarian after dating me- NOT because I ever asked them, but because they learned a lot when they asked me questions. I don't think I could ever be in a long term relationship with someone that wasn't at least a vegetarian though. It's an important viewpoint that my boyfriend needs to have, just like I wouldn't date a creationist, an anti-choicer, or a republican. I'm surprised more people don't understand that!

vgnvxn

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @tailfeather:
the problem i have with your comment is that you seem to disregard the fact that just because you eat meat doesn't mean you can't enjoy a vegetarian restaurant.

onestrawplz

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Sorry to be whiny, but sick of meat-sneaking and veg men sissy stereotypes! Not eating meat is kinda the norm in some circles. God, it's not that weird.

Tiny-Moves

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @BiscuitDoughJones: for sure. my veg mum's cholesterol is higher than my meat eating dad's. go figure.
there has been a 'salt thrifty' gene identified that contributes to the disproportionately high rate of hypertension in african americans, and inuit in canada on a traditional diet high in fat and protein have lower rates of disease than those on a 'westernized' diet. some metabolisms adjust, some don't.

Not that anyone is really benefitting from the average american diet: high fructose corn syrup/sugar use and diabetes, saturated/trans fats and cardiovascular disease, excessive protein and colon cancer- direct causal links well established. This is the shit that the body can't adjust to, with or without meat.

ellietown

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Wing Chun: Oh my God, Wing Chun!

Sorry, I had to out myself as a totally creepy stalker.

Anyway, are you still having problems finding vegetarian restaurants? I've found that in recent years, restaurants in general offer way more veggie options. I rarely have trouble finding something--even at a steakhouse or seafood restaurant.

Kona

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Boyfriend is vegetarian, I am not. I handed him a menu today and told him I was feeling ambivalent about ordering a particular dish filled with shrimp and beef. He told me it sounded tasty and to go for it. Our meals out are often like that. He's veg for ethical reasons, but doesn't expect me to share them, even when I eat lamb in front of him. He's definitely not a sissy or wasting away either. In return, at home we eat mostly vegetarian meals (I'm too lazy to cook two meals, fuck that!) and I've mastered vegetarian enchiladas and gumbo that make our carnivore friends ask for seconds.. and thirds.

Lollia

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @rebs: I think it depends on the person. I do know however (from mistakenly eating dishes with meat in them) that having grown up as a vegetarian, I absolutely cannot digest meat. I'll end up vomiting profusely and once even developed a rash on my neck and face.

So seriously, no matter how faggy you think vegetarians or vegans are (and you're probably right) don't sneak meat into their food if they've been doing it for a long time. It could fuck them up.

Kona

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> While I agree with the commenters who've said it's kind of not cool to sneak meat to vegetarians, in the case of Tracie's ex-boyfriend he must not have minded since he's still eating meat, so it seems to have worked out okay for everyone involved. Perhaps it's time to call off the torch-wielding villagers.

I eat meat and my husband doesn't, and it's usually not a problem. Sometimes it's a minor hassle if we're in an unfamiliar neighbourhood looking for a restaurant and have to go to like eleven before we find one that has more vegetarian options than a side of fries, but other than that, it's fine. He does most of the cooking, and I wouldn't ask him to cook meat for me (exception noted: when we lived in a house with a barbecue) -- nor would I need him to, since we eat enough meals out that I don't feel deprived not to have flesh on the menu at home. In fact, he's in the kitchen right now making an amazing-smelling vegetarian dinner for us while I sit here loafing. Pretty sweet deal for me.

Tara

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> My dad has been a vegetarian for, like, 30 years. He was living in Hawaii and was totally a hippie. Of course, he was also on drugs, bi-polar and went a little crazy and thought he was Jesus--and as Jesus, he shouldn't eat animals. Therefore, he and my mom became vegetarians and my little sister and I were raised without eating meat.

Since I grew up that way, it's just kind of who I am and not actually something I give a shit about. All of my boyfriends were hardcore carnivores, including my current bf. We cook our food separately, but we still eat together with no problem--and I would never dream of trying to convert him.

Plus, my dog loves him because he gives her steak and other delicious meaty items.

Kona

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @exelizabeth: See, yeah, this is the sort of answer I was looking for. But, the larger question is: Whether you're doing veggie "right" or "wrong", is the way that it affects your body even up to you? Like, are some people gonna look/be sickly regardless of how healthfully they abstain from animal products, you know? Are some people fighting genetics when they choose this lifestyle? As another commenter stated above, the human body seems to be designed to be omnivorous, so maybe some people's bodies are better equipped to handle a more restrictive diet, protein-wise. I dunno.

BiscuitDoughJones

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> actually the more i think about this article the more it actually INFLAMES me... I TOTALLY LOVE JEZEBEL and read all your articles. This is... soo... disappointing. Lame.

chile

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> this article is stupid. if you know these are stereotypes, why even buy into them? my boyfriend and i are both vegetarians and he is the sexiest, most masculine, handsome, sensitive, smart, and athletic person i know. i think you all are referring more to people who just happen to be neurotic, picky eaters. if a woman thinks less of man because he doesn't eat steak, doesn't the absurdity speak for itself?

vegans are fukken nuts though.

chile

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> As a veggie dating a meat n phish eater, i'm not at all fussed, i'm not very good at cooking meat, i always think it will be undercooked and make people ill (i'm the same with eggs but i'll eat those myself as long as they are defoo properly cooked) Between us, I am veggie, and the bf is lactose intolerant, can't handle sugar and can't digest potatoes. We eat LOADS of different stuff and it's never a problem... unless we go out to eat.

I also appreciate his willingness to eat *anything* and not be freaked out by what animal/part of animal it was when it was alve, to both of us, meat is meat.

mincepie

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I'm surprised to see such an unenlightened statement come from a bunch of ordinarily intelligent and forward-thinking ladies. First of all, it's a huge stereotype that vegetarian men are not manly. My ex-boyfriend was and still is a staunch vegetarian who loved watching and playing sports and doing other so-called "manly" things.

My current boyfriend, however, is a meat-eater who hates watching sports (he plays them, though), quilts, and is generally a sensitive and enlightened human being who eats organic meat and mostly vegetarian food because he cares about animals...and to please his vegetarian girlfriend.

What's manly is being brave enough to do what you feel is right for yourself without caring if some carnivorous chicks will think you're a sissy because you don't want to support inhumane practices. For a lot of vegetarians (myself included), it's the idea of eating meat and dairy that comes from animals who are tortured that is most upsetting. And in America, "conventional" meat comes from animals who live and die in hellish conditions.

As someone said earlier, it sucks to be made fun of or preached at by carnivores, especially when you don't usually bring up your vegetarianism (or other peoples' carnivorous-ness) because you feel that what you eat is a personal choice that's no one's business but yours. It's also infuriating when a super-picky eater will refuse a meal and no one says boo, but being a vegeterian somehow isn't a legitimate decision.

But it doesn't bother me, because people who go out of their way to mock vegetarians either are 1) insecure about their own personal choices and too cowardly to face the horrible truth about factory farming because it might make them feel guilty about the bacon they just ate or 2) inconsiderate douchebags who lack compassion.

lesspopmorefizz

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @HexaCorde: You got to hang out with Ian MacKaye? I am so jealous. Minor Threat is my favorite punk band of all time.

On topic, several points: I've been ovo-lacto for 21 years. I was self-righteous about it for about the first two weeks, but in my defense, I was 14. However, I continually am given grief by people who feel it's necessary to warn me that I'm going to die, that I will have bad skin, that I will have no energy, etc., if I don't eat meat. Well, doing ok so far, and I look a lot younger than 35, so I guess it's not hurting me. And I eat junk food, too. Just because someone decides not to eat meat, why should anyone think that they have to give up potato chips, too!?

Jabes

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @sybann:

You know, my husband had to get his taken out, and ALL of his stomach problems went away. He was practically living on Tums, had been diagnosed with an ulcer (total misdiagnosis) and it all went away after the surgery.

Not that the surgery was a walk in the park, but in the end it was well worth it.

yarnmule

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @tailfeather: I live in Argentina and I tried to be vegetarian just out of spite or something, and it did not work AT ALL. I would have been forced to eat grilled slabs of cheese or lettuce and tomato salads anytime I went out. Also - vegetarianism = the most bizarre thing EVER to Argies.

misstr-ASSshan-ASS

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @BiscuitDoughJones: They must be doing it wrong; they probably don't eat enough vegetables and just replaced meat with white bread and cheese. My man has great skin. Me, not so much (though it's not gray, ew), but that's been the case since I was like 10, when I ate meat, so it's unrelated to diet. Stupid acne.

exelizabeth

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @exelizabeth:
Yay, I'm from Seattle too! Maybe that's why I'm weirded out when vegetarianism is even an issue. Also, although I used to be a vegetarian for different reasons, it's the environmental ones that are most important to me now. (And also why I toy with the idea of going vegan though I could never actually give up cheese.)

Yanee

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I am a vegetarian and my fiance is a carnivorous beast. We have an agreement that I cook meals we can both eat, and when we go out to eat, he can do as he pleases. I, in no way try to force my beliefs on others, though as is evident in the responses to this post,meat-eaters are not always so easy going when it comes to encountering vegetarians/vegans. To relish in the fact that you slipped ingredients into foods your vegan bf was eating is pretty fucked up, I agree. I think the main idea here is if you can respect your significant other's decision, even if you do not agree, it can work. Period.

virginiawoolf

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Maybe it's because I live in Seattle so there is nothing remotely weird about being a vegetarian, but your assumptions about vegetarians are really weird to me. It's like saying women are naturally delicate and hysterical... Like, what year is this? And am I the only only one who's been reading more and more about the environmental impact of meat? Is global warming not, like, THE issue of our time? Vegetarianism is the simplest and most effective green step you can take.

The bf and I are both veggie, and we don't even think about it any more. We're both on the slim side; I find beefy (and, yes, fat) dudes unattractive. A guy who is thoughtful about his diet and is moderate in what he eats is both attractive to me and a good match.

I will say I spend way less time thinking about food and have a way healthy relationship with it than most meat-eaters I know.

exelizabeth

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @IslandCandy: only the meat-eater makes the sacrifice? Where do you live? I've spent the past eight years in Oklahoma and Missouri, and it was me making the sacrifice by having a baked potato and a salad at a steakhouse every. single. time. You can't make blanket generalizations like that.

shanaynay

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> "My ex was a vegan for 10 years when we met and I used to use eggs and chicken stock in recipes after a while and not tell him."

i'm sorry, but that's an incredibly dick thing to do. nonvegetarians complain about "sanctimonious vegetarians," but if you want respect you need to GIVE respect.

onestrawplz

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @islandcandy: In your opinion it doesn't taste as good. Can you not fathom people having different taste from yours?

girlleastlikelyto

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @ItchykooParker: i puke when i accidentally eat meat too.

i don't understand why people think it's funny or a good idea to trick vegetarians into eating meat [luckily it's never happened to me]. it's cruel. i don't get why people can't respect other people's personal, private decisions on what they want to eat & not eat.

erinlynne

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I'm really late commenting, and this is sort of off-topic, but for some reason it bugs me when people call themselves "carnivores." The fact is that no matter what we choose to eat, biologically humans are omnivores. It means we can survive and thrive on a variety of diets, and it is probably a big part of our success as a species.

I'm a vegetarian--for twelve years now. So is my husband, though he wasn't for about a year of our marriage. I didn't try to convert him; it just happened. He isn't a pussy but not really macho, either -- I could put up with a macho dude anymore than I could a pussy. I get annoyed with him because he has a really sensitive stomach now and gets sick if there's like a trace of anything meaty in his food, like fish sauce in Thai food. I'm half-Filipina -- fish sauce is like part of my blood, so it doesn't bug me.

girlleastlikelyto

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> eating with a vegetarian/vegan sucks if you are a meat-eater. sorry, but don't tell me that soy has as much protein as a steak, and it sure doesn't taste as good. diddo for pasta primavera, mushroom gravy, fake meats, portobello burgers... also, you can't share dishes at Indian/Thai/Chinese restaurants, and that's sad- because only the meat-eater makes the sacrifice.

erica

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> i've been a vegetarian since the 8th grade & started dating my boyfriend in the 9th grade [actually today is our 5 year anniversary]. when we first started dating he was a carnivore but was very respectful of my decision not to eat meat & i never pressured him to become a vegetarian [i feel that being vegetarian is a personal decision not something you can force on people]. he was really interested in why i had decided to become a vegetarian & i explained to him why [health, ethical, moral, environmental, etc.]. after that he started becoming really interested in being a vegetarian & did some research on the health benefits & watched that [awful, disgusting, propaganda] "meet your meat" video from peta. after that he decided to become a vegetarian & he still is one today. he's a better vegetarian than i am and he was the one who convinced me to stop eating fish. being a vegetarian has not emasculated him at all. i don't consider him a sissy but i also don't think he is the epitome of masculinity either. he's a perfect balance.

erinlynne

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I'm not a fan of veggie men, but mostly because all the male vegans and vegetarians I have ever known were the artsy-eyeliner-skinny jeans type from Allston or Somerville and would go on endlessly about how terrible the hormones in meat are or the sort of diseases you can get from chickens or that milk products gum up your system...basically, how they were so much healthier than I, a meat easter, was.

But for some reason, their concern over unnecessary and/or manufactured chemicals did not extend to all the shit they stuffed up their noses.

I don't mind a skinny man, but I draw the line at hypocrites.

Triphena

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @aarvesen: Uh, except for the placenta thing. Ignore my stupid comment.

aarvesen

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @nixsey: chickens are mammals. Four legs good, two legs bad eh?

aarvesen

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Been a vegetarian 17 years. Wife is not a vegetarian. I do the cooking. She orders steaks when we go out. Almost invariably tells me she prefers my cooking to restaurants.

This whole "vegetarians are sissys" thing is a retarded prejudice. How about this one: "chicks who watch reality TV are shallow".

As for sissified, I squat 300 pounds and drink cheap beer. Yay me.

Dear Jezebel: please grow up. Kthx. And here's some tofu.

aarvesen

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> My ex is a vegetarian -- he's a big, muscular guy who jumped out of airplanes as a paratrooper and fought forest fires. He's been a vegetarian for 19 years without being sissyfied.

I, on the other hand, am a meat eater. He never had any issue with my cooking meals and only joked to friends about making me sleep head to foot when I ate meat.

the planner

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @advocatin: aww, scooped! and so politely too!

ellietown

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> mother is a veg, dad is a professor of animal science in beef cattle production. happily married for forty years.
mostly because they don't do asshole things like deceive each other and make judgments based on what the other puts in his/her fucking mouth.
its not rocket science, people!

and are you actually calling 300 million or so hindu and buddhist men sissies?
really??
cuz just because they probably won't kick yer asses for that, doesn't mean they shouldn't...

ellietown

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I was a veg when i started dating my ex, and he was really excited when I decided to start eating chicken. i was surprised at his enthusiasm.

Dear Blond Diary

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @chunkymonkey: Or a man with unimpaired hearing and taste.

sybann

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Dear Jezebel, not every male vegetarian is a hippie. Tens of millions of them are from other cultures, like Southern India, where vegetarianism is the norm. Please consider that America, its norms and its attitudes, are not universal signifiers of lifestyle or ideology. Thank you.

advocatin

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Bourdain's a giant tool.

I'm puzzled by the attitude of some of the omnivores commenting here that it's okay to crap all over vegetarians and vegans, but that they don't want said veggies crapping on THEM and their meat. Double standard much?

Ex-husband is a committed carnivore. It made cooking a real pain in the ass, because he insisted that meat was necessary not only every day, but every meal, and would complain incessantly about any lack of dead animal. Good guy, but annoying about that. I eventually quit cooking for him. His mom and sister are vegetarian, and his mom is one of the original tree-hugging hippies, formerly very active in crusading for animal rights, so I expected him to be cooler about it.

Long story short: I might date another carnivore, but I vastly prefer fellow veggies. I don't eat meat for both ethical and environmental reasons, and said reasons are a big part of my overall ideology. It'd be nice to share that.

And anybody who sneaks animal products into a vegan's food is a disrespectful, underhanded, rude bitch, IMO.

shanaynay

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Not that it means anything, but it was kind of weird that I was watching a Law & Order rerun while working today, and it started out with a couple on a bad blind date. She was a preachy vegetarian and he was a judgemental meat-eater. While arguing about it, they stumbled on a dead body. Clearly there's a message here - date someone with a different diet, and it causes murder! Or something.

major disaster

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Anthony Bourdain is the sex. He also hates Rachel Ray, which turns him into a kitchen adonis.

tastidelighttonight

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @yarnmule: wish I didn't have the former...

sybann

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I have been vegan for more than a decade, and reading this made me think of all the veggies I have dated. And, yep, they have all pretty much been f'n sissies...

hollywoodenflames

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @hydeordie:

I have a gall bladder and an appendix too.

yarnmule

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I think it's incredibly disrespectful and unethical to covertly serve meat to a vegetarian.

I'm lacto-ovo and will occasionally eat some fish. I don't care what others eat. My dude is a full-on carnivore.

I've dated vegetarians, and shockingly enough, they were just as manly as the carnivores I dated.

Oh yeah. I'm not in the least bit skinny.

The veg-head stereotypes are really old and sad.

JMRob

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @BiscuitDoughJones:

It's like anything else I suppose; if you are a vegetarian who eats nothing but spaghetti and Cheetos, you're probably gonna be unhealthy looking. And if you're an omnivore who only eats meat and Cheetos you're gonna be equally unhealthy, just in a different way.

yarnmule

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @sybann: Absolutely right. Not fun. It was almost 15 years ago, maybe a little more, and I still shudder to remember it. Eeek!

Not fun, not funny. But a particularly vivid memory, I must say! *grin*

ItchykooParker

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @lolainblackglasses: Testosterone is made from cholesterol, not protein (it's a steroid hormone). But vegetarian diets (especially vegan) are in fact much lower in cholesterol than non-veg. Though your body will make its own cholesterol (your body needs it both for hormones and cellular membranes) if you don't consume enough.

major disaster

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> For what it's worth, I think Joaquin Phoenix is hot, but a) I thought he was hotter before finding out he was vegan, and b) also he is hot, but kind of looks like a corpse. Dude does not look like the robust picture of health.

Smackdown

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @lisas: Word. Seriously, would anyone ever think it was okay to say "I just kind of think guys who keep kosher are pussies?" I mean fuck, at least act embarrassed that you're busting out a ridiculous gender stereotype.

Meanmllemustard

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Anthony Bourdain looks like he'd spank your ass without explicit permission during sex. Which is one of the 2,765,431 reasons I find him irresistible.

♥ dosido Hussein McKamy☮

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> See when I hear "male vegetarian" I think "great at oral," because he's a hippie. Hey, I'm a former hippie and y'all don't know what you're missing out on.

Alohamaid

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @KnitSandwich: Word!

mightymouth

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I've never thought of male vegetarians as "sissys" BUT I do have a male friend who eats meat(chicken & fish), but won't eat mammals, but the weirdest part is there doesn't seem to be any ideology behind it.

nixsey

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @ItchykooParker: thank you - now see just because YOU @rebs: reverted to your huge carbon footprint ways of carnivore with no evil ramifications doesn't mean it works that way for all. I've seen what she describes in person (sharing hotel room with tricked friend). It wasn't fun or funny. I just wish we could all learn to respect the choices of others without name calling. I still get pissy when folks comment on how my food looks (lotsa veg and some meat - but fairly healthy) because it's not on a frickin BUN.

sybann

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> When I started dating my husband I was a vegetarian; he was a dedicated omnivore. We've both changed though, because frankly, aren't most relationships about compromise? It was really a matter of wanting to eat together instead of 2 seperate meals every single night. I now eat fish and the occasional chicken, and he has learned that tofu is only evil when prepared badly. I still won't cook or let him cook red meat in the house, but only because the smell truly makes me ill.

He still eats plenty of meat; if we go out or order in he'll get a cheeseburger. Am I going to get on him for that? Of course not; I married him, I don't OWN him.

I was never a veggie for moral reasons though, I just hated the texture of meat, and still can't eat poultry if it's dry.

On a side note, I never got sick when I started eating meat again. But I was a vegan for a while, and getting back on the dairy was a sickly nightmare.

yarnmule

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> So, uh, my mom's a vegetarian (for 30+ years now) and my dad is super not. And I've never heard them say word one about it being something they had to deal with. Thats in 25 years of marriage. The only time my mom ever gets annoyed with my dad's eating habits is when they're bad. Like white bread and velveeta bad. Isn't that what you should be concerned about to begin with, you're partner's health?

beandsee

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> just popped in to say: anthony bourdain is hot.

i have had dreams about getting drunk and smoking cigs with him, with delicious food on the way.

sigh.

westward ho

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Yanee: Oh, are you ever tiresome. Why should you even care what I find attractive? These men were not attractive TO ME, not in general. And the "my people" thing? Please. You don't even KNOW my veggie friends or why they're veggie, so HOW can you identify with them so readily?
Oh, and I'm not the one calling people "assholes" here.

BiscuitDoughJones

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @J.D.Regent: beer is never wrong - unless you're behind the wheel.

sybann

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @rebs: Absolutely it is true. I haven't had meat since 1984 (I'm ovo-lacto), and once friends of mine, thinking they were being...I don't know what...assholes maybe? told me that the chili dip they had made was with soy meat substitute. It was hamburger. They really just thought I should eat some meat! They were going to tell me later.

Well, I had quite a bit of it, and spent the next 12-18 hours with my head in the toilet, with the most excrutiating vomiting I have ever experienced in my life. I didn't know until later that was the reason. At least they said they felt bad. I guess.

So please, don't feed your vegetarian friends meat because you think it's funny, or they should or something. Turning your insides out is not funny or educational.

By the way, I am in no way a "preachy veggie" - I never even mention it unless someone asks me why and really wants to know. (Moral reasons, not for health. I would probably eat meat if I could raise it myself.)And I'm fun to go out with! And I don't care if people cook meat in my pans, or on my grill. Come on over!

ItchykooParker

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Aw, this has been commented to death.

When I was a vegan, I searched in vain for a vegan male who showered regularly, shaved his face, and did not believe that he had made contact with extraterrestrial life. Alas, none was to be found.

AnnieGetYourFun

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @lolainblackglasses: Getting adequate protein is only a problem in the worst of worst veggie diets. There is plenty of protein in whole grains and veggies aside from the usual suspects of nuts, beans, and legumes.

KnitSandwich

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I looked through most of the comments, but I don't think that anyone has touched on the fact, that a lot of the time, when a man (or anyone) eats meat--straight-up meat from who knows where, which factory farm, non-organic, wherever--chances are that that meat is stuffed with hormones, often estradiol--a "female sex hormone"! It is considered possible that this and other hormones used in meat production could be responsible for declining male fertility.

Being picky about food, choosing vegetarianism, these are not "sissy" choices; to my mind, these are important issues. It's your body people! Choose wisely.

belsa

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @BiscuitDoughJones:
Honey, you just called my people unattractive. I don't think I'm the one who was being bitchy.

Yanee

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @J.D.Regent: ps. what is godthink? beer at 4: not a good idea.

J.D.Regent

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Yanee: I wasn't trying to be funny or an asshole. All the veggie dudes I dated were grey-skinned and scrawny. Sorry that offends you so, but in my case it's true. I also know some fat & doughy veggies, if that makes you feel better. But they have shitty complexions, too. I serioulsy wanna know WHY being veg does that to so many people. Ease of the bitchiness, for the love of god!

BiscuitDoughJones

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Anardana: Full-blown vegan, that one. Hot and def not a sissy!

KnitSandwich

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> whatever, i talk about energy all the time! probs a hippie though. i gave up meat for lent BECAUSE MOE TOLD ME TO. now i'm a sissy for it? god think my man cooks organ meat on a biweekly basis.

J.D.Regent

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I quit eating meat earlier this year (except salmon- I would never deprive myself of a salmnon/asparagus meal) after dating my vegetarian girlfriend for a couple of months.

It was really more of a health issue than anything else (I'm eating so much healthier now). Plus, she told me that she could taste the meat on my balls.

Having seen the many videos on the internet of how meat is produced, I had a hard time intellectualizing my consumption of meat. Somehow I was able to create the cognitive dissonance to continue eating meat. However,
I can't create the cognitive dissonance to put myself in a position that inhibits the licking of my balls.

So the meat went and my ball lickings have seen a distinct uptick in the last month or so. Now I eat better and regularly enjoy the ball-licking-with-cupped-hand-on-top-of-.../head-handjob.

Those kind of handjobs really qualify as blow jobs in my mind.

Nick Mortensen

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @lisas: I don't think that's exactly accurate. From what I have read, men make testosterone using protein. Low protein can lead to low testosterone. Low testosterone is not sexy to me.

I don't eat meat, but every guy I know does. Guess I trend toward testosterone.

Rebecca

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> You know that Joaquin Phoenix is a veggie, right? He doesn't look like a hippy or a sissy to me.

Anardana

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> My last serious boyfriend was a veg and was also a hunka burnin' love in an outdoorsy surfer-river rafting guide healthy muscular nom nom way. No sissy, that one.

What bothered me was the tofu, broccoli, brown rice, top with cold spaghetti sauce, then repeat, meals that he made. Boring!

More awful: fussy eaters.

desylicious

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Jeeeses Jezebels, really? Long time reader, first time poster..I love you all, but the idea of eating meat being so cool and manly and/or womanly (and being a veg therefore sissy/uncool) is just shitty. Yeah, a lot of vegetarians and vegans are royal assholes. But a lot of us do it because eating meat is just unfathomable - I haven't been able to touch the stuff since I was 10 (I'm now 30s). I've been asked if I'd eat it if I was starving, and maybe I would.. but to me meat is not food, it's dismembered body parts. I also ride a motorcycle, cuss like a sailor, and drink like a fish. So I'm a whole lot more than what I put or don't put in my mouth.

On a final note.. this guy is NOT a sissy, I think you'll agree:
[online.wsj.com]

gravitycupcake

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> The only vegan guy I ever slept with was the best lay of my life... and they do taste different (read: better)

ctgirlinnc

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I can kind of understand why some vegetarians might find it difficult to live with meat eaters though, and vice versa. You have to be patient. I prefer not to cook my food with meat, in the same pan or whatever, and that could be annoying but even my uber conservative, grumpy Republican, meat and potatoes diet father was kind and considerate enough to permanently reserve a special spot on the grill for me without even being asked.

Katxyz

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Ellabella: Your comment completely made me flash back to the time I was working on a sound/lighting crew for a local club. Fugazi came to play (I got to jam with them after the soundcheck -- it was AWESOME) but because we had "connected" musically, it was decided that I would be the best one to help them find somewhere good to eat nearby.

I knew their music, but for whatever reason had no idea that Ian MacKaye and co. were such strict vegetarians.

Jacksonville, Florida is many things -- but a hotbed of vegan cuisine is not one of them.

We walked around. for. hours.

HexaCorde

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @KimberleeJ: Whoops, didn't finish my thought. My point being that it's not an ethical judgement to say that eating organic or grassfed, if you choose to eat meat, is probably a lot better for you, and the environment.

Unfortunately, it's more expensive, but I have seen the price of organics go down considerably as the demand has become more mainstream.

KimberleeJ

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> In weird but related news, the "first vegan strip club" just opened in Portland. I guess male vegans are trying to disprove the sissy image?
[www.kptv.com]

You'll find the "meat" on the pole, not the plate, according to the owner.

I date a meat eater and will occasionally even cook for him, but I don't like handling meat and I would be deeply offended and angry if he tricked me into eating meat. That shit is disrespectful.

Katxyz

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @katekate: You're right. I initially stopped eating red meat after reading Fast Food Nation, I myself was shocked. I kept at it because I found I felt better and got sick less often.

KimberleeJ

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> If I can't go to a steakhouse with someone, I can't go to bed with someone. That is just the way it is.

Smackdown

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Seriously? Male vegetarians? Vegetarianism is somehow "female" or "weak," and male vegetarians are "sissies?" That's where you're going with this? Whoa.

Also, what's with lying to your partner about something so basic as what is in their food? Yikes.

Vermonstrous

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @ItchykooParker: Although I sort of see your point, it's not really the same thing.

serreca

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> My college boyfriend was a vegetarian. I knew when he started eating meat that the writing was on the wall. Sure enough he realized he needed to discover himself (by doing blow and eating meat) and dumped me. He then proceeded to resent me for not sticking by him during his personal turmoil. Needless to say, i dodged a bullet with that one.

bigapplemama

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @sybann: I don't think that's true about losing the ability to digest meat. In my own experience, the transition was painless.

rebs

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I was a miserable vegetarian for 15 years. Now if I need a mood-boost, I eat a steak. Instant joy. I lived with a vegan for a year, and she took it to such an extreme that she told the builders who were renovating her flat to not eat their ham sandwiches indoors, as it was "disrespectful". Oddly, I've never known a carnivore to prevent someone from eating a tofu salad in their home. I agree with whoever it was who wrote earlier that some vegans are masking their eating disorders under the ruse of 'ethical' eating, whether male or female.

rebs

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @hydeordie: Oh for fuck's sake. Your hand can make a fist too; does that mean you should make a practice of punching people on a regular basis? That's just stupid.

ItchykooParker

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Lady Skittlehattington: As a Weight Watchers person, I'm not offended. That's your experience and I'm sure people of all walks of dieting are annoying. But I will say people get really INTO WW. I do, but I don't go up to friends, unprovoked and say "Here's your chart: write down points!" if they ask me how I lost weight, I'll tell them "WW" and if they want, I'll explain how it works. But I seriously had an Atkins person tell me once that I should go on because I'd lose 20 pounds in a week and I was basically a moron for NOT doing it. ... ... he was my sister in law's alcoholic ex-boyfriend who beat the shit out her her, btw.

LaComtesse

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @rah29: Seconded.

ilikenoise: Russell Brand until I die.

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Ech! And would you put ham stock in a risotto you were serving to a Muslim or a Kosher-observing Jew?

bowleserised

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I'm a meat eater and I've had two vegetarian guys stop talking to me as soon as I mentioned I ate meat (I'm Indian, so I think they presumed I'd be a veggie). Arse-holes.

MakeMeSmile

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @WorkerBee2000: I was covering my ass, I assumed I'd be attacked for giving myself an Earthy, New Age label. But hey! We're on the same page...

tashatakeadive

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I'm late commenting on this one but I've been a vegetarian for almost 10 years and am married to a meateater. There's only one issue for me - watching him or anyone else eat meat off of the bone. It's just a little too graphic for me but I would never dream of not allowing him to eat whatever he wants. Plus, he got me to eat fish which I do now regularly and am all the better for it.

I will add though, now that I work and he stays home with the baby, it's begnning to stress on our relationship. He seems incapable of making anything for dinner that doesn't turn into some kind of meat-casserole. He put sausgae in his chicken noodle soup yesterday and I couldn't help but barf a little.

washionfore

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Ellabella: Jizz is bitter - period. At least so I have found.

sybann

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> If someone slipped animal products into my food without telling me, they would be thanked w a punch in the teeth. that is all.

kaylinda

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I've been a vegetarian for decades and back in the day, a promoter friend of mine used to call me to make dinner for bands that were in town and had vegetarian members. I've cooked for The Exploited, Sham 69, the Cro Mags and the Descendants. I guess because of all that old school punk rock I never even considered the sissy factor. Also, once I heard on Dr. Sue Johansson's show that the sperm of vegetarians was supposed to taste better. So far I haven't had the opportunity for a hands on taste test, but I'll keep you posted…

Ellabella

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @jesseraub: Thank you for chiming in here. I know a lot of vegetarian guys that are big strong mountain biking, rock climbing, ass kicking men. They just don't want to consume meat.

I'm a vegetarian myself, for ethical reasons, and am married to a man who used to be a vegetarian. We get along just fine, even though he eats animals and I don't.

sweetbeans

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> In my experience, I haven't met a single vegan who wasn't obviously covering up an eating disorder. I know that there are those who are healthy about it; I just haven't met any.

Don't mind vegetarians. I love delicious animals as well as delicious vegetables. But grown men who don't eat vegetables? Hell to the no.

AllThatYaz

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I keep linking to Good Magazine articles, because well, they're good:

Guess Who's Coming As Dinner?
[www.goodmagazine.com]

freedc

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Food plays a major part in all my relationships. I SERIOUSLY considered not dating a guy because he was allergic to all sea food. I absolutely adore fish, and didn't want all our dining to revolve around chicken, which I hate, and red meat, which I like, but not as much as fish, more specifically sushi. In the end, the sex was so good, I had to ignore the dietary restrictions.

Beigebaby

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Yanee: I know several chubby vegans. I also know several skinny vegans, several outright fat vegans, a few curvy vegans, and one scrawny vegan. I know pale vegans and vegans with tan skin. I know 2 or 3 African American vegans.

I know that sickly and pale is the funny stereotype, but it's really not true.

DebbieDoesDamage

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Three of my boyfriends, including my current one, were/are vegetarians. I am a carnivore. This has always been the LEAST of my relationship issues.

such_details

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> A good friend of mine and I were talking about moving in together. He is a vegetarian, I am not. The final deal came down to him saying "I don't think I could live with someone who would cook meat in my kitchen or pots". Yeah, no go.

Neon.Wonder

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @FrostyTempleton: I'm in Portland, and my best friend is a fishetarian, and my husband doesn't eat red meat or pork. Most of my friends have some sort of ethical or environmental dietary restriction (no HFCS, no farmed fish, no grain-fed beef, etc.). In general, it doesn't really impact my life that much, but it does suck to not have anyone to go with me to places like Beast: [beastpdx.com]

I wish I could quit meat, but I need the protein to maintain the level of physical activity I do.

TWSS

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @loves_NoelFielding:
I completely agree about the breaking-up-over-sneaking-me-meat... thing. Although it sounds totally ridiculous, I had a panic attack (I'm not speaking hyperbolically) when I accidentally ate mutton a couple years ago. When you haven't eaten flesh in 10 years its upsetting to have it happen and even more upsetting if someone you trusted did it to you.

Yanee

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @rednrowdy: that's just takin it too far...vegetarian pets! Dogs and cats, no less, not like iguanas!!!We watched 'Shirley Valentine' last night, and her neighbor asks her to feed the dog, then explains that since they;re veggie, they only feed the dog muesli, so when she goes to fee him, she gives him her steak from dinner. Hilarious move!

h_a_l

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Yanee: Oops, sorry. I totally read it as vegan.

serreca

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @loves_NoelFielding: This isn't a response to your comment, I just wanted to say... I, too, love Noel Fielding.

rah29

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @serreca:
She said 'veg' which in my mind encompasses both. If she meant vegan, still kind fucked up. I personally know a couple chubby vegans.

Yanee

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @okeydokeyartichokey: YOU. HAZ. RUINED. MY. DAY!

sybann

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> Uh, yeah, I take offense to the Hezbollah comparison. I hate that veganism is supposedly this huge sacrifice. With omnivorism being the standard, it can be a bit of a hassle, but it's not necessarily about deprival.

And sure there are gross cliche vegetarians, but there are also gross cliche omnivores.

That said, I could probably only date a vegetarian a light meat-eater. It's not about ethics as much as the smell of bacon frying and some stuff makes me nauseous.

bernat

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> After catching typhoid in Thailand and using alternative medicine practices to get the pesky little parasites out of my body, I can't eat dairy or drink alcohol. I had a real problem without alcohol at first and of course chocolate was a real bummer. I wasn't prepared for the reactions I got when people found out I don't drink alcohol. I love being around tipsy or drunk people, b/c I've had to learn how to socialize without alcohol and after a few drinks people are about as relaxed as I am without drinking. Eating out can be a real pain, as butter is constantly being used, people can get a bit impatient sometimes. I never preach about junk food, as my diet is really clean, but I hate "the born again" dieters, as the ones who preach are usually the ones who can't stick with it!

Jazibel

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> i'll never, ever understand why people get so upset over what other people eat. i've NEVER preached to anyone about their food choices, and i don't get why others feel free to do it to me. i go out to eat like a normal person and can always find something on the menu i can eat. i assure you, i'm much funner to eat out with than my anorexic cousin.

VegAnne

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @ilikenoise:

THANK YOU.

I am a vegan, my boyfriend is an omnivore, and we have no problems whatsoever.

militant veg-whatever-ans need to stop judging everybody and omnivores need to stop pegging us as lunatics.

and I am also pissed off that foodies think vegans can't eat anything, or ever go out for food. as long as I'm not going to a steakhouse or a pizza joint, I can find food just fine, thanks. I eat well and often, don't feel bad for me.

voltaireonfire

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Muffyn: girl, you're preaching to the choir. i was on a very strict diet where i had to eat meat a lot - so that made mealtime fun! p.s. i kept ground beef in the freezer! oh yeah!
@serreca: @Jerseylicious: granted, she was making the pets switch to veggie pet food about 10 years ago - didn't find out how they took to it, and it was completely selfish on her part since she "didn't want to have to deal with the meat" regular pet food. y'know, the regular pet food that is actually healthier for her pets!

rednrowdy

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Brianne: Uh, Oregon and Washington are like two of the crunchiest granola states in the nation, I don't know why you're surprised. Most people live in areas with people who aren't like that.

serreca

]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> I dated a vegan for three months, and broke up with him because it was too hard to be with a man I couldn't share Sandy's frozen custard with or take to my family BBQ without feeling incredibly guilty. Plus he acted as if he was so morally superior and I didn't understand why he would want to be with someone who, in his mind, was a cold-hearted animal killer destroying the Earth.

Well, months later, he's still a vegan but I decided to give him another chance, trying to learn more about vegan cuisine so I could cook for him and we could have that bonding experience that is a shared meal. But no matter what I made, he always insisted on eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and wouldn't go near my soy ice cream. I dumped him again.

It's really easy to be a vegan when you are just a picky eater. Men who are veggies/vegans=not necessarily sissies. Men who are picky eaters (and don't have to be for allergy-related reasons)=sissies. Too bad Anthony Bourdain is married :-(

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]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @Yanee: She said vegan, not vegetarian.

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]]> <![CDATA[Can Female Vegetarians And Male Carnivores Ever Find True Foodie Love?]]> @FrostyTempleton: I'm in Oregon too, and I grew up in Washington. These people saying they don't meet vegetarians...where do they live?? Everyone I know either is one, has been one, or w