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shoroko
11/09/09

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Sorry, I'm for Rachel Alexandra. #zenyatta
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Scout
11/09/09

@shoroko: is that because it is the less popular choice or......??

Zenyatta's record, up against some really tough colts, is amazing! #zenyatta
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shoroko
11/09/09

@Scout: Actually, the Breeders' Cup was the first time Zenyatta went up against male horses, and she's only raced outside California once.

Rachel Alexandra, on the other hand, has raced against colts twice, and older male horses once. She placed first all three times, including becoming the first filly to win the Preakness Stakes in 85 years, and first ever female horse to win the Woodward Stakes. She didn't race in the Breeders' Cup because she doesn't race on synthetic turf. #zenyatta
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Catpain Blackudder
11/09/09

@shoroko: Well, more like her owner is still doing a war dance because his over-the-top Curlin lost on the synthetic track last year...Rachel has raced and won on synth. I think once the freshness of this thrill wears off a bit, we can all go back and compare them more objectively. Rachel had a hell of a season. #zenyatta
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Scout
11/09/09

@Catpain Blackudder: you know what we need here.....a Black Stallion-esque match race! he he

I wish they could have raced together because, ultimately, that would be the only way to decide who should be Horse of The Year.

I love both girls! #zenyatta
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Scout
11/09/09

@shoroko: and I meant "race" not "record"...it should have read: "Zenyatta's record and the race up against some really tough colts, is amazing" #zenyatta
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keldo
11/09/09

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I dare you to watch this race and not get teary eyed. Zenyatta is amazing. #zenyatta
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Scout
11/09/09

@keldo: Agreed - what an amazing race and we must give kudos to Mike Smith who did a great job guiding her to the finish. I used to be an exercise rider and know full well how tough it is to "steer" a horse at 35 mph

Yay! Zenyatta! #zenyatta
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badmutha
11/09/09

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I loved that album. Though I remember nothing on it pertaining to horses, racetracks, or speeding. #zenyatta
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Kivrin
11/09/09

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I saw this race over the weekend—not because I watch horse racing, just flipping channels—and I heard the commentator say something about "the first female to win so-and-so." And I perked up, thinking there was a female jockey…but no, the commentator was talking about the horse.

That got me thinking: Why are there no female jockeys? Some kind of bullshit tradition? Or are there occasional female jockeys and I've just never heard of 'em? Any Jezzie racing fans care to fill me in? #zenyatta
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AvgElitist
11/09/09

@Kivrin: I'm not a horse racing fan, either, but I do love bad reality tv.

[animal.discovery.com]

There's a female jockey on this show, of course she and a male jockey are dating. So there's one out there. I'm curious how many others and why the sport is dominated by men. #zenyatta
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Kivrin
11/09/09

@AvgElitist: Yeah, it seems like there would be a larger female pool of potential jockeys, given that women are far more likely to come in the required height/weight combo. That's what made me curious… #zenyatta
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sableized (mawrterdom)
11/09/09

@Kivrin: Because they faint when they win! #zenyatta
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badmutha
11/09/09

@Kivrin: Supposedly the women who try to break into the sport are treated really crappy by the dudes. Also there is the superstition of bad luck if they have a female rider. Stupid. #zenyatta
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bowleserised
11/09/09

@Kivrin: There have been great female jockeys (Julie Krone), and also great female trainers (esp in the UK jump racing scene) but sexism still holds them back.
Also, I've been following the new UK pony racing sport for teenagers, and it seems that horse racing is the last bastion for boys. Girls have taken over the other horse sports at junior levels.

[www.theboysclubmovie.com]
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Kivrin
11/09/09

@bowleserised: Interesting—thanks for the info! #zenyatta
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msAnthrope
11/09/09

@Kivrin:

many women wind up becoming exercisers, who run the horses through their paces in the morning, and groom them and walk them.

this woman exerciser would have to be able to know the right people to get an owner/ trainer to let her ride their horse as a jockey. you see this more often at small local racetracks, there's usually a couple of women jockeys.

when you reach the bigtime such as the breeder's cup, you're talking megabucks and the trainers like to use the small group of jockeys they know and always use. the owners usually go with the trainer's recommendation. and there are only a few horses that make this grade every year, so the opportunity to be the female jockey on one of them is very limited.

i imagine there would be same crap from the male jockeys, as there would be in any other male-dominated sport, but the horses are all about the same size! #zenyatta
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Catpain Blackudder
11/09/09

@bowleserised: In 1993 I saw Julie win five races in one day at Saratoga. Another female jockey named Georgina Frost won two other races on the same card, and I met Ron Turcotte in the paddock. My thirteen-year-old heart just about burst that day! #zenyatta
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sableized (mawrterdom)
11/09/09

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When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. #zenyatta
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clockwise contemplates going counter
11/09/09

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That Zenyatta, such a stud! Uhm... #zenyatta
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Kivrin
11/09/09

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That lady seems really proud of the fact that her art skills peaked in 4th grade. #zenyatta
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NoInheritance
11/09/09

@Kivrin: I thought that horse was a goat. Gotta admire the effort, though! #zenyatta
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MegiEr
11/09/09

@Kivrin:
That is EXACTLY what it would look like if I drew it. Better even. That made me smile. #zenyatta
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sybann
11/09/09

@Kivrin: 4TH!? I could draw horses better than that in 1st grade! #zenyatta
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Kivrin
11/09/09

@sybann: (Me too. I was trying to go easy on the lady.)

:) #zenyatta
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