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    Image of can'tspellthat can'tspellthat
    11/19/09

    In reply to ANTM Finale: And The Winner Is…
    I would really like to begin a short woman militia. We will embrace our actual short stature. We will boycott high heels because, frankly, they hurt and they never actually stop hurting no matter how long one wears them. We will become grand supporters of rolling up the cuff of one's pants and standing on tiptoes to kiss, reach the second shelf, and wave hello to a person some distance away. We will not hang our heads when we hear, as we always do, "can I have all the short people come down front for the group photo?" Instead, we will revel in it. We will proudly shop in the children's section of stores. We will not be shamed when someone exclaims, "Oh my GOD, how small is your foot?!" We will no more be afraid of the "You must this tall to ride" signs at the fair. No, no, no we will embrace it all. We will go to the play parks attached to fast food chains simply because we can. We will hide comfortably in small spaces and always win hide-and-seek. We will find ingenious ways to get "up there". We will laugh each time our partner thinks that he or she has accidentally shrunk our clothes in the wash. We will refuse to shop at Petite Palace and other such stores. We will make friends with people who can sew. We will be a happy militia. Everyone who joins will receive a nice pair of flats and a trip to Oxford, UK where all the doors are still our size.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    I thought about this for a while now.

    I don't find it offensive for the same reason I don't find cross dressers or any other kind of gender bending offensive. We used to say gender was fixed, remember? You were a boy or you were a girl. That's changing, and I understand why Tyra went with race this time around (remember the shoot where the girls dressed up to be drag kings?). With increased globalization, there's more mixing, more new combinations, and less stark lines between cultures. So, no, I don't have an issue with that episode.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to ANTM Finale: And The Winner Is…
    Hurrah for Bloody Eyeball!
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot

    Victor and Rolf did an all black collection in 2001. Everything was black, including the models. But would you consider it 'blackface'?

    The year before they had done an all white collection.

    The model is Devon Aoki.
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    11/19/09

    @dj alicat: This is maybe me just drawing lines where there aren't any, but I think the difference between this and what ANTM (or more poignantly, Mad Men) did is the actual tone that they are painting people. This is a grayish, charcoal black that looks more alien than anything else. They are actually as black as the clothes and they aren't really playing into the "racial signifier" aspect of dark or light skin. I haven't seen the white shoot, but I imagine it was people literally being painted snow white, not just peachy-beige.
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    KATE! promoted this comment lobsterswithmittens was starred lobsterswithmittens was unstarred
    Image of dj alicat dj alicat
    11/20/09

    @lobsterswithmittens: That's how I feel about it also. And you're right about the white show too.
    They also did a collection inspired by Tilda Swinton and all the models looked like her!
    They are just genius fashion designers who are artists too.

    #tips
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    Image of BestEuphemismEver BestEuphemismEver
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    My number one passion in life is hating on people who Heidipologise: "IF you were offended, I am sorry... but not sorry enough to really acknowledge you..."
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    11/19/09

    @BestEuphemismEver: It's like saying "I'm sorry that you're upset."
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    11/19/09

    @BestEuphemismEver: "i'm sorry that people are so jealous of me, but i can't help it that i'm so popular."
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    Image of BestEuphemismEver BestEuphemismEver
    11/19/09

    @Snowbunny: "You really are one sensitive SOB, aren't you? Man, it must be hard to walk around all day with all these 'feelings' pinging around. I feel a sort of small pity for you." Makes me stabby.
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    11/19/09

    @awinoforever: "It hurts me that your life is so pathetic. It's not easy being as fabulous as me, though."
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    Image of I_can_still_pitch I_can_still_pitch
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Try this Ty: "It was a dumb idea. We shouldn't have done it. Sorry."

    So easy and simple. That is how you "apologize." It's a different thing than "attempt to justify" or "rationalize."
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    Image of TurtleSpeak TurtleSpeak
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    I see how it's a problematic photo shoot concept but I still don't really think it's analogous to "blackface". It is problematic in other ways- it essentializes and co-opts races for artistic effect. That's a problem. But it's not "blackface". It is possible for a racial shoot to be problematic without it being "blackface"... I don't know if I feel comfortable using this term to describe something like this. I can't really explain why.
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    11/19/09

    @TurtleSpeak:
    I'm okay with calling it blackface. It might be possibly well-intended blackface, but it's still blackface. It doesn't have to be the clowny Sambo version to be blackface. It's still appropriation. Here's where it gets blurry: like actors, models are hired to create an illusion. Would this even be an issue if models of color were adequately represented? Would everyone be free to paint up as they pleased?

    I'm not sure what to think. As an artist, it makes me sad that racism affects even the most innocent exploration. There are things that you might be drawn to aesthetically that you might have to pull back on because of how they'll be percieved.
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    Dodai promoted this comment dandelionbrowne was starred dandelionbrowne was unstarred
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Tyra's goals are honorable, but I think she should really take a few classes on anthropology and gender studies. She has a big platform and she's a role model for many black women. But it's obvious she isn't as well versed in certain areas as she should be, and she doesn't do those subjects justice when she tries to educate.
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    prismatism promoted this comment nnnnnnn' was starred nnnnnnn' was unstarred
    Image of TransFat TransFat
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot

    THERE IS NO TYRA ONLY ZUUL!
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    Image of hovy hovy
    11/19/09

    @TransFat: Are you the Keymaster?
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    Image of JessickerFletcher JessickerFletcher
    11/19/09


    @TransFat: You have to admit, the resemblance is striking.
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    11/19/09


    @TransFat: I'll see your Zuul and raise you one Google search for "80's hair."
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    Image of rodmanstreet rodmanstreet
    11/19/09

    @TransFat: Dana/Zuul: the original hapa.
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    Image of OneTwoPunch OneTwoPunch
    11/19/09

    @wordinedgewise: Wow. Suddenly my h.s. photo from 1986 doesn't seem so hairageous. Nice 80s find.

    ps-This is the only time I've ever resembled Ms. Weaver—when she played a sexed-up demon from an 80s movie. Crazy.
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    Image of TransFat TransFat
    11/19/09


    @rodmanstreet: Maybe we should send this to Mr. Jay. I would kill to see an 80s film babe shoot: Dana/Zuul, Weird Science gal, Ally Sheedy as the Basketcase...wait they did that one...

    @wordinedgewise: It's bad enough when I'm stifling laughter about my own joke, but this put me over the top. I had to excuse myself from my desk to stop the giggles in the bathroom. Now that I'm back, they are too.
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    Image of justcallmeangel justcallmeangel
    11/19/09

    @hovy: I am the Gatekeeper.
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    Image of dandelionbrowne dandelionbrowne
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    I'm torn on this. Part of me is angry at that she's so dismissive of something that she knew would be considered offensive. The other part of me is sad that she didn't use this to make a commentary on the practice.

    Blackface is one of those things that people are going to have strong reactions to. It's a shame she didn't use the opportunity to educate. Fashion doesn't have to be empty and vacuous.
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    prismatism promoted this comment dandelionbrowne was starred dandelionbrowne was unstarred
    Image of Understater Understater
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    It's my number one passion in my life to stretch the definition of beauty

    I thought her number one passion was slutshaming.
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    Image of futuremouse futuremouse
    11/19/09

    @Understater: I thought it was smizing.
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    Image of rodmanstreet rodmanstreet
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Thanks for slipping that "sorta" in the title of this post. I watched this yesterday, and that SORTA came through loud and clear to me. But I felt like that was more Tyra's egomania than anything else. "Me? Admit a mistake?"
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    11/19/09

    In reply to ANTM Finale: And The Winner Is…
    Anne of Green Gables is jealous of Miss J's puffed sleeves.
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    11/19/09

    @lemoner: more like Anne of Green Gables is trapped in those sleeves
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    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    They didn't even do a realistic job on the makeup...
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    Image of Wandell Wandell
    11/19/09

    In reply to ANTM Finale: And The Winner Is…
    As a short girl (5'2) I'm really angry that the two girls left at the end of this cycle were 5'7. ARGH. What's the point?
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    Image of LadyFabulous LadyFabulous
    11/19/09

    @Wandell: It's obvious, we don't count since we're not in Tyra's line of sight.
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