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prettycool
04/16/09

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I'm sure it was that hard-hitting interview with Oprah that made them reflect over their actions.

yeah...
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lalaland13
04/16/09

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OK ladies. This is it. We need to open up a Jezebel compound next door to these crazies. We may not be able to do anything for these poor women and girls, but we can try to lure them over to the dark side. We have cookies. And vibrators.

And if nothing else, we can piss off the men folk by walking around in pants.
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sassy
04/16/09

@lalaland13: There are few things more wonderful than waving vibrators around while eating cookies and wearing pants. I support this idea.
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Hana Maru
04/16/09

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Wait, they never admitted in the first place that there were any forced underaged polygamy.
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PaintedTrollop
04/16/09

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Oh, what a load of shit.

These people will lie through their inbred teeth to protect their right to rape in the name of the prophet.

The millions they have stashed away would be more than enough to buy a child protective services worker.
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morninggloria
04/16/09

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Wives are naggy! Teenagers are whiney! Why anyone would want to subject themselves to multiple naggy whiners is beyond me.
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gangey
04/16/09

@morninggloria: They did it all for the nookie.

And now I hang my head in shame quoting Fred Durst.
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JerseyGrrrl
04/16/09

@gangey: My brother-in-law has been saying for the past three years that he wants that song to be his wedding song. That may explain why he's not dated since I've known him ;)
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femmina
04/16/09

@JerseyGrrrl: ...if he's your brother-in-law...isn't he already married? I would assume married to your sister? I'm confused.
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Mav
04/16/09

@femmina: Not if she married HIS brother, no.
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CurtCole
04/16/09

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I kind of doubt that a fundamentalist church is going to do an about face because Child Protective Services slapped them on the wrist. Most of these communities have been around for a while and trade young girls around like Pokemon cards, leaving them socialized into thinking getting married and having babies at a young age is part of their duty. I'm all for freedom of religion, but this is a fucked up religion. Any religion that advocates the marginalization, torture and molestation of children should not be blanketed by constitutional protection. If Anne Heiligenstein thinks the mini-removal they did last year is going to change their world-view then we need a new Department of Family and Protective Services Commissioner here in Texas. The men in this community view the state and national government as a source of opposition in their lives, something that God is putting before them to be tested. I just think more action needs to be taken, even if it does encroach on freedom of religion.
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The HZA.
04/16/09

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I don't see how a group that has been this way for so long just changing that rapidly. It'd be nice to think that there is some realization going on. But ehhhh. I don't think so...
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
04/16/09

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I find it hard to believe they've had an honest change of heart. This isn't some small tenant of their every day lives, like, say, the rule about only wearing pastels.

For there to be an honest change it would, one can assume, require such being spoken down by a leader, which would then surely undermined the system if something so commonplace were suddenly announced wrong in the eyes of god.
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SouthernSatine
04/16/09

@tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler: Yeah. I'm pretty sure that one of their prophets would have to have a vision in which God told him that this was wrong. Kind of like the vision that Joseph Smith had when he decided that plural marriage was God's will in the first place.
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pear.shaped.Sara
04/16/09

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What did they put in that welfare agent's drink when she visited the ranch?

*eyes narrow suspiciously*
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Lin-Z [linguist on duty]
04/16/09

@pear.shaped.Sara is gunning for a star: don't drink the kool-aid!

oh wait, wrong crazy religious sect.
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Mav
04/16/09

@pear.shaped.Sara is gunning for a star: Kool aid.
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Samanthrax
04/16/09

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Yay! Don't worry, everyone. They'll only have to wait a few short years 'til they can marry the 40 year old guy with 5 other wives of their dreams and start having babies.
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MarissaExplainsItAll
04/16/09

@Samanthrax: stop entering my sex dreams!
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hippichx sez PEACE PLEASE
04/16/09

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that's like when an abusive boyfriend says he'll never hit you again. they may even mean it, but its in their nature. i think those people all need to be deprogrammed like that cult woman who killed her child. if they are deprogrammed and still want to go back, let their god be with them... but they should have a choice, rather than being forced into it by birth.
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Trulymadlyme
04/16/09

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I can see the leader's rationale on getting girls to fake thier ages: Children, this isn't a fake ID. This driver's license contains your spiritual birth date given to you by Christ our lord and Savior. Only he knew when you're truly ready for the sexytime. Only he!!!
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
04/16/09

@Trulymadlyme: It gives Jesus joy to see the joy on your face when we take joyous pictures for the joy book. JOY. JOY I SAID, DAMMIT.
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Santos L Halper
04/16/09

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I agree that her assessment was probably VERY optimistic. Won't people say pretty much anything the authorities want to hear in order to get their kids back, polygamists or not?
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Shamrockette
04/16/09

@Santos L Halper: Yep, they would.

"I honestly didn't know that marrying a 15 year old girl off to a man almost twice her age was illegal! I'll annul the marriage and I'll make sure my children don't get married off until they're 18!"

Yeah...okay. And, you know, pigs can totally fly, and buffalo wings come from buffaloes.
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PreposterousHypothesis
04/16/09

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I doubt they're giving it up. It's engrained into their culture and their religious philosophy. You know how those pompadours stay so high? They're full of secrets.
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Liz11685
04/16/09

@PreposterousHypothesis: Love this.
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Eleanor Ramilly
04/16/09

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How could they have realized this? It seems like something that would have to be unlearned through generations. I hate to think they are just saying what they must to get their children back...
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GirlFailer
04/16/09

@Shannon: Yeah, this smells like bullshit. They suddenly gained a conscience after their child brides were hauled away? Doubt it. Sounds like they want their families back together, then plan on keeping quiet until they slip under the radar again.
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