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AuntieBee
09/01/09

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Re: Naomi Campbell, fur v. nudity

I expect PETA can't actually contract all their "I'd rather go naked" models to never wear fur again. I also expect that, like Ms. Campbell, many of the models are not posing out of their deep-seated devotion to the end of the fur industry so much as out of a desire to have their profile raised. (Or money. Does PETA pay them, or is it pro-bono?)

I'm a little surprised this doesn't happen more often,but I suppose that is another reason they use celebrities more than models. Higher recognition factor and less likelihood that they will be paid to wear fur in future jobs.
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BondGirl
09/01/09

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I'm sure Jezebel knows this but Anand Jon was on an episode of ANTM. They wore his dresses for a fashion show. I think it was cycle 2.
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Hana Maru
09/01/09

@BondGirl: I remember that! They got to go to a fashion industry party hosted by Anand Jon at the Indian Embassy. I always think of that when I read these rape stories. I thought he was so hot, but what a frightening man.
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foodandshoes
09/01/09

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The only thing that bothers me about the photo of the homeless man is that the photographer didn't say "Hey, may I photograph you?" However interesting or cool you think someone's outfit is, they have a right to not be photographed. It's such a rude thing to just snap photos of a person so that you can use the image for your own entertainment, amusement, or employment.
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Hana Maru
09/01/09

@foodandshoes: I'm an amateur photographer and I take a lot of pictures of strangers. If I see an image, I may have seconds to catch it as it is. Often if someone notices that I'm about to photograph them, they'll start grinning and posing. Occasionally(If I think that they will see me) I'll try to gather consent through eye-contact and expression, while disturbing the scene as little as possible. I don't want to make somebody uncomfortable, and if they see me and frown and turn away, I won't persist, but I don't really understand how it's possible to be a Robert Doisneau/Ragubir Singh type photog. without secretly photographing people. Can you say more about why it bothers you? Is it because the guy may have been homeless, or is it always a problem?
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foodandshoes
09/01/09

@Hana Maru: So you take the photo and delete it if they say that they don't want to have their image used. I'm not all "the box steals your soul" or anything, but people have a right to say how their image is going to be used. That's why when you go somewhere where there is CCTV, it has to be disclosed. And as far as getting consent by eye contact, it just seems like the "she was smiling at me so she wanted the attention." I know that you aren't going to walk around with a stack of model release forms, but there is something that smacks of cultural imperialism/ethnography to me. It is different if the person is performing or something, but a regular person going about their day? It's a continuum that leads down to upskirt photos and the like. The person with the camera doesn't have the right to take a photo of anyone they want to.

An explicit okay from the subject is the ethical thing to do.
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Hana Maru
09/01/09

@foodandshoes: I use a film camera. And by getting consent by eye contact, I don't mean something ambiguous, I mean meeting eyes, tilting my head toward my camera as I hold it up, smiling at them, and waiting for a nod. It's not flirting or friendliness that I'm taking advantage of, it's real consent. At that point, however, they have become self aware, straightened their spine, and it ceased to be a genuine image of the moment in time and space that I wanted.

It does seem like you're a little bit "the box steals your soul" if you think that candid photography takes something from the subject, or that it's a slippery slope from photographing people going about their lives, to sticking cameras under women's skirts. When you say "it just seems like the"she was smiling at me so she wanted the attention." and reference upskirt pictures, it really sounds like you equate it with violating people.

I have felt okay about what I do because I have been photographed a lot by strangers in my time, and because most people are flattered if they notice. Also, because there are pictures that I regret not taking that will never exist again. Many of the great works of photographic art out there would not exist under the terms you're suggesting.
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BlondeGoddess
09/01/09

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Has anyone seen the Celebration vid too? How totally awesome is Lourdes?
And how totally cringeworthy is it that Madonna is fondling Jesus in the same vid?
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katynels
09/01/09

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Those Jimmy Choo boots are terrible. They're so Pretty Woman. No thanx
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desertbloom79
09/01/09

@katynels: Funny, I was just thinking those Jimmy Choo boots are awesome. They're so Pretty Woman. Yes, Please.

And now I'm actually laughing out loud at my desk.
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Rare Affinity
09/01/09

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Peaches Geldoff has also been appointed agony aunt for the London Evening Standard, as her years of experience make her ideally suited to advise others on difficult personal problems.
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Plum-Pie
09/01/09

@Rare Affinity: Thanks for providing me with my biggest laugh of the day, so far.
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lilbobbytables
09/01/09

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The Sisters Mulleavy have signed with William Morris Endeavor, to "advise the label on opportunities in publishing and film and identify potential strategic partnerships and sponsorships." We're seeing a lot of intricate deconstruction.

Oh man, I have it in my head (and heart) that Rodarte will do some awesome costume for period movies. Imagine them dressing Catherine Earnshaw or Miss Havisham!!! Please do not take away this wonderful dream.
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toastandlove
09/01/09

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We should start a Jez betting pool - every time a rapist gets sentenced, we'll do an over-under on how long they actually serve.
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cate3710
09/01/09

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I was looking at The Sartorialist yesterday and saw that shot, and what bugged me was this: "I barely stopped walking when I took the shot" - it just made me wonder if he even talked to the guy or got his permission to take the photo and post it.
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lisas
09/01/09

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I suggest that when it comes to images of rapists (and abusers like CB), Jezebel adopts the Perez approach to their pictures. I'd like to see DOUCHEBAG RAPIST OF GIRLS scrawled across this dickhead's smarmy little sexyface.
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berlitzfrench
09/01/09

@lisas: Couldn't fit all of that on there, but hope this will suffice:
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Rare Affinity
09/01/09

@lisas: I would limit it to rapist of little girls and have it carved into their skin.
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lisas
09/01/09

@berlitzfrench: I feel cleansed by the fires of a fellow fury. xo
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lisas
09/01/09

@Rare Affinity: Country justice rides again, heh.
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Penny
09/01/09

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I'm with Schuman. I thought a lot about this when Galliano did his "homeless" collection years ago, and my feeling is that everyone manages their appearance in some way, and it's pompous to assume all homeless people fall into one category. Perhaps he was thrilled to have his photo taken. I don't find it particularly violating.
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pssshwhatever
09/01/09

@Penny: I agree. If The Sartorialist is an examination of how people adorn themselves, it would be wrong to assume that homeless people are unable to have those concerns as well. Homelessness doesn't negate personality or personhood, and celebrating that like you would any other person merely reminds us that they are all, in fact, people.
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EkaterinaBallerina
09/01/09

@pssshwhatever: I couldn't agree more. There is a man that sits outside of my apartment on a daily basis. He loves to show off his t-shirt collection and he's always pointing out which one he's wearing.
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morninggloria
08/13/09

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Boyfriend cried so much during Up that he had to spend about 10 minutes in the men's room afterwards to compose himself. At least, that's what he said he was doing.
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GayRobotsRUS
08/13/09

@morninggloria: I cried during the stork short before the movie AND all through Up.
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nyc-caribbean-ragazza
08/13/09

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Every time I see a poster for GI Joe I think of this:
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08/13/09

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: PUPPETS!!!!!
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nyc-caribbean-ragazza
08/13/09

@dianersb was bit by a zombie: ha. can you believe the MPAA wanted to give the movie an NC-17 rating because of puppet "sex"? I heard the deleted scenes are on the DVD.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
08/13/09

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: Hmmm, I haven't watched the deleted scenes yet...
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
08/13/09

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Anybody else wondering of the titles are direct translations? And if not, what the Mandarin title is?
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iwantthose
08/13/09

@dianersb was bit by a zombie: The title in Chinese says literally "Flying House Adventure". But in Hong Kong (where I live) the title for Up is different, strangely: 沖天救兵 which is 'shooting into the sky saviour soldiers' literally. Which probably gives away some of the plot, I haven't seen it yet so I don't know.
The GI Joe title is also different: 義勇群英：毒蛇風暴.
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TeacherDee
08/13/09

@dianersb was bit by a zombie: i live in taiwan and the jerk at the ticket counter gave mrteacherdee SUCH a hassle about which movie we wanted to see. he had looked at the poster, saw five characters, and thought "fuck it, Up is easy to understand".
consequence, he won't tell me what the mandarin title is.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
08/13/09

@iwantthose: Thank you!
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TeacherDee
08/13/09

@iwantthose:
that is the opposite of lost in translation. such a simple title made so detailed! augmented in translation?
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
08/13/09

@TeacherDee: iwantthose has enlightened us to the Mandarin title!

I think you should go up to him and say "Hey mrteacherdee, I really enjoyed Flying House Adventure, should we see it again?"
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TeacherDee
08/13/09

actually i'm full of it. our title is 天外奇蹟
so if i want to annoy my husband, i'll ask if he wants me to buy the tickets for "miracle outside of heaven"
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Rare Affinity
08/13/09

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Well if GI Joe doesn’t bring down the regime in Communist China nothing will!
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