The self-described “historic episode” of WTF with Marc Maron, in which Maron interviewed President Barack Obama, is up. During the conversation, Maron and the President discussed the aftermath of the Charleston shooting and race relations in America, parenting and how Obama stays so “chill.”

[Insert appropriate “WTF?” joke here] President Barack Obama will be recording Marc Maron’s podcast WTF With Marc Maron today, with the interview to be posted Monday.