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Breamworthy
11/10/08

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Okay, pet peeve from a math teacher here.

It drives me insane when people say something is "three times less likely" - what does that even mean? Does it mean one third as likely?

Like, suppose just for the sake of argument, that the rate of whatever is 3 out of 100. If it was "three times less likely", would it now be 1 out of 100?

Actually, what it would mean statistically is that the likelihood of it NOT happening is three times greater, i.e. instead of NOT happening in 97 cases out of 100, it would now NOT happen in 291 cases out of 100. Which is impossible. Which is why this drives me INSANE.

*sigh*

Not everyone has to like math, but everyone has to make sense.
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Liz11685
11/10/08

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I'm actually unsure if I was in an incubator- I was six weeks premature, but actually pretty large(5lbs is a BIG preemie!). I do totally have the depression. And I think I'm starting to get agoraphobia.(horrible family history of that one) My dad was for sure in an incubator after he was born, and I believe he suffers from mild depression as well.

There really needs to be more preemie studies. I want to know what kinds of things can be attributed to being birthed too soon.
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ceejeemcbeegee is not here
11/10/08

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I didn't think it was a joke about rape but a joke about Kelly. A sad, sick woman who would claim to be raped to get sympathy.
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Cerridwen
11/10/08

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The rape joke was uncomfortable-funny, which is still funny in my view, the same way a lot of "Borat" is funny. By using it as a ludicrous excuse for her behaviour, Kelly the character trivializes rape. But the show indicates, due to the ridiculousness of the excuse, that rape is actually a very serious matter not to be taken that lightly (hence the unbelievable nature of her statement, which is what we laugh at). In essence, we're laughing at how crazy and wrong it is for Kelly to use sexual assault as an excuse for her behaviour; we're not laughing at sexual assault.

It's hard to explain complex humour.
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The HZA.
11/10/08

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I laughed at Kelly's joke just because it made me think of her prior outrageous proclamations. Like faking being pregnant to go on a date with Ryan. I think the show makes clear that what Kelly does is wrong.
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lalaland13
11/10/08

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I say: funny, albeit darkly so, because of the character. There are problems with people accusing victims of "crying rape," but I really do not think The Office is contributing to that.

And if one couple is facing prosecution for "psychological suffering," then all parents need to be hauled in. Every single one. Because all children are effed up somehow by their parents, even if they have the best parents in the world.
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Understater
11/10/08

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Sort of OT, but I love 30 Rock and Arrested Development (RIP), but never got into The Office...does that make me warped??

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Easybreezy
11/10/08

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BJ Novak probably wrote that rape joke. He is....not that nice of a guy, in my (somewhat limited) experience.
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Penny_Esq
11/10/08

@Easybreezy: Lester Lewis wrote the episode, but that doesn't foreclose the possibility. Tell us more about BJ - he comes across as a huge douche, but then again he plays one on TV and it's easy (for me) to confuse the two. Hence why I believe Jim Halpert, a completely fictional character, is The One for me.
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rocknrollunicorn
11/10/08

@Easybreezy: Yes you need to tell us more!!!! GOSSIP, I loves it.
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jigglyball
11/10/08

@Penny_Esq: YES WE DID!!!: Hands off my man!

Seriously, my boyfriend has been forced to make peace with the fact that in TV land, Jim Halpert is my one and only.
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Liz11685
11/10/08

@Easybreezy: I would love to know why you have that opinion! He reminds me of a lot of guys I went to high school with- not actually that surprising, considering he went to the other high school in the town I'm from. (So did Krasinski)
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DangerMouse
11/10/08

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They *should* have to pay back child support if they lied/were inaccurate about who was the father. Even if the real father pays back the fake father, someone should pay.

At least with DNA paternity tests becoming more affordable, this should happen less often.
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
11/10/08

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How about get married when you can't imagine not marrying the person?

Also, have kids when you want to have kids.

Eat pizza when you want to eat pizza.

See? Life is easy, yo.
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DangerMouse
11/10/08

@BrutallyHonestBabes: Hooray! I second that.
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sequined
11/10/08

@BrutallyHonestBabes: You should write a book. A pithy, wise book.
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Liz11685
11/10/08

@BrutallyHonestBabes: Best advice ever. Especially about the pizza.
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Sukie in the Graveyard
11/10/08

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God Bless Silverton, may their whackiness undo Salem's religious nutjobs. :)

Local News report: [www.kptv.com]

Also, the mayor is not bad looking.
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Never_Nude
11/10/08

@Sukie in the Graveyard: Word. I live in Salem. While it's more progressive than Texas, where I came from, I yearn for the day I can move to Portland and be snug within its blue womb. Aaaaah.
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Penny_Esq
11/10/08

@Never_Nude is proud to welcome President Obama: Yay Portland! Come join our liberal party. I've been in Alabama for the last four days and I can't tell you how glad I am to be back home. (Incidentally, my office represents the City of Salem in some of its employment matters, and I am working on a Salem case right this second. Or, you know, have the file open in front of me while I read Jezebel.)
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Never_Nude
11/10/08

@Penny_Esq: YES WE DID!!!: Oh, howdy do! I am also in the lawyering biz, and do employment type work. Small world, dontcha know.
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vamusical
11/10/08

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So, if you got an ovary transplant... wouldn't you be crankin' out someone else's eggs?
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kerry
11/10/08

@vamusical: Yeah, that's why it made big news when she got the transplant. The end result is no different from doing IVF with donated eggs, the big benefit is that this way the couple gets to conceive naturally.
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badmutha
11/10/08

@vamusical: That's what I kind of thought. I mean, they would be in you, but from someone else. Their genetic material would be half of any ovum. Wouldn't that screw with your head?
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gobblegirl
11/10/08

@vamusical: Yeah, how is that different from an egg donor, except complicated surgery and immuno-suppression drugs for the rest of your life? Or adoption-though there's the obvious benefit of getting to push a human being out of your genitals in front of your loved ones and a strangers in masks. That's probably a selling point.
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Issit
11/10/08

@vamusical: Whoa! Now there's a weird thought... I always wondered how that worked with transplants... Say you carry a donor heart within you, then you also carry some other DNA in you. And the cells of that heart that renew themselves renew the other DNS. And what does that even mean, if anything?
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vamusical
11/10/08

@kerry: So basically it's IVF, but you get to have teh sex instead of going through grueling treatment? Excellent. But the idea of makin babies that are not from your gene pool, yet are technically "your flesh and blood" is quite weird.
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chatterboxwriting
11/10/08

@Issit: There was a Jodi Picoult book based on that premise. Someone had received bone marrow from a donor, and was then accused of molesting a little boy. The cops found the boy's underwear hidden in the suspect's workplace and took a DNA sample - it matched the suspect's. But the big shocker was, the suspect's DNA was actually the DNA of the marrow donor, who was the one who really committed the crime.
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peperony and chease
11/10/08

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Kelly on the Office also attempted a tapeworm diet.

(Full disclosure: I once considered a tapeworm diet. Mostly because I thought I had a tapeworm, and recognized the silver lining.)
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sequined
11/10/08

@peperony and chease: (Me too.)
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Ultraprison!
11/12/08

@peperony and chease: i've thought of it too. every time me and my best friend go to the gym, we come home, collapse on the couch, and wonder aloud how difficult it would be to get a tapeworm in Los Angeles.
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Penny
11/10/08

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There's too much news that makes me never want to have children.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
11/10/08

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So much to choose from here....

Get married young or not? Not. I married for the first time when I was 20 and neither of us had a damn clue.

Go midwives! I attend church with a midwife and she's a very busy lady. A lot of my sisters at church have used her for home births and they've said the experience was the best ever for their entire families.

And Italy? You rock! If we could get those laws here I'd see half my student's parents up on charges. And since some of these kids are seriously depressed because all they hear are their parents (or parent and step-parent or SO) fighting every evening, I would like to see some ass-kicking in this department.
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DangerMouse
11/10/08

@Gretchen: It's like, I could marry the first guy who comes along now just to be married, or I could marry the right guy later. I choose the latter, even if it means my fertility isn't that ideal then.
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TexasCrude
11/10/08

@Gretchen: My mom yells tons, still. I have such an aversion to screaming matches. It bums me out.
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sequined
11/10/08

@ejc.yippee.skippee!: I don't think it's necessarily one OR the other, but I think it can be. It's better to wait for the right person, whether s/he comes soon or not.
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