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11/03/09
I do agree that some gossip is good, because it's bonding. I'm at a company now where there doesn't seem to be much gossip - or else I'm just blissfully not involved in it. Which is both helpful and harmful. #gossip
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On the upside, as you say, we are never, ever short of good gossip material! #gossip
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I work in a charity, made mostly of women, almost all of whom are white, upper-middle class, and middle aged. My co-workers care significantly less for the good work they're supposed to be doing than who said what about whom, and who bought what, and what the queen of the office will think, etc. etc. etc. It's enough to justify my lunchtime cocktails. Gossip is poison, and makes it almost impossible for me (and the few others like me) to work effectively, which may or may not be why I'm on Jezebel at 2 in the afternoon rather than doing my job. #gossip
11/03/09
Stay away. Better still: Duct tape your mouth and ears for plausible deniability. #gossip
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Where's my yogurt? #gossip
11/03/09
"If people are talking positively it can be a way to enhance someone's reputation."
Yes, it'd be great if that happened more often. Sadly, I don't have too many people running up to my desk whispering "zomg, Rachel did so. well. in that meeting!"
I have a rule with myself where if I don't like someone, if their name comes up in conversation with coworkers I try and say something positive about them. #gossip
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It's only a problem if someone else walks by. #gossip
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"I have scoop." #gossip
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Although, we never really gossiped as much as talked a tremendous amount of shit. #gossip
10/27/09
I also know that my boss and some of the other management are a bit cliquey and go off and play golf, and it's just guys. I work in manufacturing which is male-dominated and having the "boys club" always go out to lunch togethere and organize "company" activities that just include them makes others feel excluded. I guess in the White House it depends on if he invited the same men all the time to go golfing or if he was working through inviting people in the office and just hadn't had any women play until this week. #barackobamasports
10/26/09
How about we focus on the stuff that is actually discriminatory and sexist instead of complaining about how much a group of men 25-45ish like sports. Of course they do. And if the women want to join, they should, and if they don't, then don't. But for godsakes crying about this is just going to turn people off to equality for women in general. #barackobamasports
10/26/09
You're statement "they aren't excluding anyone" is not backed up by the piece. It doesn't explicitly say that women have asked to join and been rejected, but it does say that invitations were sent out, and none to women. That is exlusionary. Also you don't seem to know the President's age. #barackobamasports
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@ yvanehtnioj
Resorting to name-calling, nice. But i don't think I've ever been called either ignorant or priviledged (ha! I wish!) before. Douchebag, probably.
Just because you both seem to have trouble with reading comprehension, I never insinuated that "women should get back in the that kitchen". Not even close, and it's insulting that you assume that's how I think.
Regardless of your petty insults, my point still stands: That silliness such as "Oh no, the president didn't have a woman on his golf outing" is going to make people arguing against discriminiation look bad and take away from the real work that needs to be done. How about concentrating on pay equality and reproductive rights instead of this non-issue? #barackobamasports
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10/27/09
And just for funsies, let's "concentrate" on "pay equality". Hrmm. This widespread problem is probably caused by different factors in different industries, and requires approaching on multiple levels. Where could we start? Well, women aren't promoted at the same rate as men, especially in fields that have long been male-dominated. How to address that? Well, we could try to ensure that women are given the same access to the boss as men, so that their ideas are heard and given the same weight. But the boss only likes to hang out with men, and Anonymous Internet Male Commenter already told me that was a nonissue! What to do?!
All that, just so you realize this isn't petty name calling, and is actually an honest assessment given the facts to hand: you are an imbecile. #barackobamasports
10/27/09
comprehended your "point" the first time, but thanks for repeating it. And MY POINT still stands: that anyone who is going to be turned away from any women's rights because they don't agree with (and based on your comments clearly don't even understand) this particular case was never committed to women's rights in the first place, and GOOD RIDDANCE. And I concentrate on every issue of discrimination, regardless of how "silly" you or anyone else not even involved in the women's rights movement thinks it is. Your same point could be used to say that equal pay is not worth striving for because rape is more important, or third world women's issues are more important. Every instance of discrimination is important - the fact that there are worse ones doesn't mean we need to roll over and accept any of it. If you'd like to discuss why you don't think this is discrimination, go for it, and we'll tell you why you're wrong. But to threaten that we'd better not focus on this because some misogynistic morons are going to dismiss it without even understanding it and then decide henceforth that women don't deserve equality is utterly fucking ridiculous and arrogant. We'll decide what's important when it comes to women's (ahem... OUR) rights, but really, thanks for the input! #barackobamasports
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I'm not terribly up-in-arms about this when the Obama administration has an ass-kicking Secretary of State like Hillary Clinton and First Lady like Michelle Obama actively involved in women's issues. However, I do know that workplace sports crap can be exclusionary. When I first started where I work -- a small business where I am the only woman -- I was quizzed by my supervisor about whether I like football every other week. I said "no" every time, but I definitely got the feeling that if I wanted to "fit in," I should start answering differently. And sure enough, I found out after this guy left (right after I got promoted so he would no longer be my supervisor and, in fact, I would be supervising him in some things), that he was badmouthing me to the boss about not being a "team player." #barackobamasports
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10/26/09
Why?
Doesn't that contribute to perpetuating a stereotype as well? #barackobamasports
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The only problem is if those women who are interested in sports (or willing to become interested for their career) are still not being allowed to participate - which is what it kind of sounds like. That is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved I think. #barackobamasports
10/26/09
Is it fair? I'm not sure. But given that she is a woman, it's not sexism. #barackobamasports