I wonder what she thinks. I guess it no longer matters, that the family has enough troubles and she's just enjoying living in the same house as her husband, even if it meant moving out of Chicago and supporting a husband who has the most difficult job in the world. I would guess that she shares alot of the same views as Barack, but I might be wrong. Still, she gives the perfect "woman's touch" and sympathies to his causes, including healthcare reform... maybe she's the one giving speeches on military families and the significance of accessible healthcare for women in particular because she actually cares, and she knows the audience she can draw.
Does that really mean anything, though? The subjects are safe--service and military families deserve attention all the same, sure, but aren't these topics (Laura Bush had reading) always the First Ladies' domain? She takes something easy and softens her husband by association.
I find her interesting and I worry it's for shallow reasons...what meets the eye is an effortlessly cool, calm, collected, down-to-earth-yet-glamorous adult. Her cameo on Sesame Street just rounds it out....I feel like a gradeschooler again, basking in awe of a favorite teacher.
That isn't to say she isn't human, that she doesn't feel pressure in the spotlight, or that that couple never had difficulties in their marriage.
I've never followed an election closely before, so maybe it's typical for talkshows to seek out prospective First Ladies during the campaign, but between that--the interviewers who wanted to hear from HER, with or without her husband (though alot of the questions were safe...about the marriage, the kids, her parents, the stresses of the campaign)--and the mutual friends who talked about the couple and said that between the two of them, they thought Michelle would be the one running for public office some day....I want to know more. #michelleobama
When I was younger, I had this running joke with my dad where he would ask me, "Who's the greatest Dad in the world?" and I would say, "Bill Cosby!" I joked with him the other day that if he was to ask me that now, I'd say, "Barack Obama!" instead. #michelleobama
I don't know. Michelle is downright amazing, but I'd still pick my imperfect, not-so-stylish mom any day of the week. My mom worked at a factory her whole life putting car wires together and just started taking college classes at age 56. She's awesome. She may not have been The Mom Everyone Wanted, but she's the mom I wanted.
Kudos to Michelle, and people like my mom, for showing girls how amazing you can grow up to be. #michelleobama
@Kivrin: Yes, I have. It's been everywhere lately. I've tried it, but the effect was unfortunate. I leave this one to the pros.
In related news, Michelle definitely seems like The Cool Mom. You know, like super-smart and put together, and intimidating but not so intimidating she'd be scary. Plus she and Barack both seem like they'd get up to some really nerdy hijinx and be hilarious and embarass the crap out of the girls. #michelleobama
@Kivrin: I think it was J.D.Regent a few months back that had some inspirational things to say about belts that got me over my 80's-based loathing. Yeah, I do it now. It can look cute. #michelleobama
@SomeAuthorGirl: I like some 80s stuff; I have totally embraced the return of the legging. But I know instinctively that this high-belt thing would not look good on me, so I fear it. #michelleobama
@Kivrin: yeah. I've been doing the belt/cardigan thing for a while now. In high school I did the belt/tank top thing. I also do the belt/dress thing. Basically I like belts. #michelleobama
@Kivrin: J. Crew loves belts over ANYTHING. I was looking through the Christmas catalogue this morning and they had a belt over a puffer vest. I really hate the belt-at-random-place trend. Some people can pull it off, but others just look like they don't know how clothes work (like they're going to wear shoes on their hands, or pants as a hat or something). #michelleobama
@Clare116: Yeah, I gotta say, I'm not a huge fan of the belt trend. I have a very functional approach to belts: I use them to hold up my pants or cinch a waist, and that's all. Occasionally add a belt as pure decoration, but only when belt loops are provided. Can't get down with using 'em as random, unnecessary adornments. #michelleobama
I have many, many issues with Welsh. But I do agree with this - to get to the C level, you'll have to sacrifice. Just like to be a pro ball player, you have to sacrifice. You can't give 100% to your job and have 100% left over for your family. You just can't. And sometimes, those sacrifices work out for people - clearly it did for McKinstry. And sometimes, it leads to a chaotic home life.
But Jack Welsh probably had to sacrifice too -- I'm willing to bet he didn't make it to many ball games when his kids were little, the same way my mom (who did take time off to have kids but jumped back in soon after) was never the Room Mother or the Girl Scout Leader or any of those things.
I really don't think you can become a CEO without giving 100%. And I don't think you can give it 100% without sacrificing something else.
I don't think Stone's suggestion is so terrible... here in the US, anyway, we do work WAY too much. Period. If you want to be pragmatic and heartlessly capitalistic about it, people's productivity drops off *profoundly* somewhere around 35-45 hours of work per week. Sure, people can work tons and tons of hours and get more work done, but in terms of bang for your buck, they passed the sweet spot long ago. So you have lots more hours of shoddy work, instead of fewer hours of high quality work.
All this to say, there's nothing wrong or unfeminist about recognizing that the modern corporate environment needs to change to better accommodate human flourishing. That we think of workaholism as a "choice" frankly only indicates how completely corporate America has managed to rewrite and control the dialogue. It should NOT be a foregone conclusion that business "progress" requires human sacrifice. Working hard and destroying souls are two very different things. I don't see any problem with pointing out that some choices have significant negative social externalities, and for that reason should be eliminated (or, if you want to be more libertarian about it, those choices should be negatively subsidized to account for those externalities).
I guess I'm a bad feminist. I see the solution as three-fold: one, reducing the need to be at the office every. single. day. of. the. year. and two, encouraging a more egalitarian form of parental leave and three, a more egalitarian way of marriage. I don't think that acknowledging that men, too, have tough decisions to make and often aren't able to take parental leave because of societal expectations is a bad thing. I don't think it's belittling feminism. I don't think it's denying feminism. While males have privilege as a group, that privilege often doesn't translate to individual men. Women still get the short end of the stick a lot more than men, yes. But the solution is one that necessarily also includes the working conditions of men. What I'm saying is, I think having more family-friendly work structures is a good idea for everyone, even those without families, as it allows for more flexible work hours, more flexible work positions, and more flexibility period.
I don't even WANT to be CEO and I'm still stressed that taking a few years off to raise kids will keep me out of the workforce forever - unless I plan to fold jeans at Walmart or flip burgers.
I've seen the way HR looks at those gaps in a resume. You see "being a mother" they see "always late for work needs extra days off doesn't show up when the baby is sick distracted during meetings uses company time for personal issues".
@BlondeGrlz: I know what you mean. I lie awake worrying that I am on the "mommy track" without ever intending to be. My work hours were cut 40%, I got knocked up, and meanwhile Mr. Girlleastlikelyto is working up a storm. When this kid is born, guess who's going to be shouldering most of it? Yeah.
Jesus Christ, we just can't win. If we work too hard and put our careers first, we're selfish, cold-hearted bitches. If we stay home with the kids, bake cookies, and go to soccer games we might be able to have a "nice career" but certainly won't get to the top. And we could end up getting screwed over when hubby decides to trade in for version 2.0.
All of this makes me never want to get married or have children.
@Lymed: Ideally, the whole system would get overhauled and there would be less hours of work demanded of us, everyone would get sick leave and health care, etc. I really hope that happens.
I've got two things to say about this:
You know, it is a blaming distraction for anyone to blame bearing children as the reason women don't get promoted. Even if a woman does not have children or doesn't marry, her chances of getting on the C level is very low and on a board, even lower. But it distracts and blames women and puts men like Welch off the hook to get people (men and women) to blame the lack of women on "choices."
Second, what IF a woman devotes a big chunk of her life to getting promoted and does not spend time or as much time on her family as society thinks she should? If she gets promoted, she deserves it. Especially on the top levels, if you devote a ton of time, you deserve it. If you spend hours in the gym, the practice field, hitting the books, etc...you deserve the rewards and if someone can't or won't do that, they don't deserve to the rewards as much as someone who does. Men on the top levels do give up a lot, except society doesn't give them as much crap for it - for hiring nannies and helpers and having a helper wife. But they do give up something for the C level jobs - a good chunk of their lives and being on call 24/7. Not every job should require this, but I don't support the call to "even things out" for those who can't or won't devote themselves for the top jobs. If you do the time and devotion, you should get the prize. At this time, don't forget, don't blame: even women who give up aren't getting an equitable share of the top spots and they'd have us blame this solely on motherhood's choices. And it ain't the case. The childfree women also have an incredibly hard time rising to the top spots. Bias, not time off, is the reason. Let's not be distracted by Welchy.
It seems pretty clear to me that the demands of most workplaces are not conducive to being a parent. Back when men weren't really expected to do much parenting because women stayed home and did it all, that might have worked ok. But now it doesn't. We all need to work less, so we can all parent more. That's the only way we'll achieve equality in the workplace. A few women making it to the top because they have exceptional circumstances isn't going to cut it.
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Does that really mean anything, though? The subjects are safe--service and military families deserve attention all the same, sure, but aren't these topics (Laura Bush had reading) always the First Ladies' domain? She takes something easy and softens her husband by association.
I find her interesting and I worry it's for shallow reasons...what meets the eye is an effortlessly cool, calm, collected, down-to-earth-yet-glamorous adult. Her cameo on Sesame Street just rounds it out....I feel like a gradeschooler again, basking in awe of a favorite teacher.
That isn't to say she isn't human, that she doesn't feel pressure in the spotlight, or that that couple never had difficulties in their marriage.
I've never followed an election closely before, so maybe it's typical for talkshows to seek out prospective First Ladies during the campaign, but between that--the interviewers who wanted to hear from HER, with or without her husband (though alot of the questions were safe...about the marriage, the kids, her parents, the stresses of the campaign)--and the mutual friends who talked about the couple and said that between the two of them, they thought Michelle would be the one running for public office some day....I want to know more. #michelleobama
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Kudos to Michelle, and people like my mom, for showing girls how amazing you can grow up to be. #michelleobama
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In related news, Michelle definitely seems like The Cool Mom. You know, like super-smart and put together, and intimidating but not so intimidating she'd be scary. Plus she and Barack both seem like they'd get up to some really nerdy hijinx and be hilarious and embarass the crap out of the girls. #michelleobama
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Leggings are still verboten in my house. ;) #michelleobama
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No offense to Jackie O., but I'm much more interested in buying what Michelle's selling. #michelleobama
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But Jack Welsh probably had to sacrifice too -- I'm willing to bet he didn't make it to many ball games when his kids were little, the same way my mom (who did take time off to have kids but jumped back in soon after) was never the Room Mother or the Girl Scout Leader or any of those things.
I really don't think you can become a CEO without giving 100%. And I don't think you can give it 100% without sacrificing something else.
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All this to say, there's nothing wrong or unfeminist about recognizing that the modern corporate environment needs to change to better accommodate human flourishing. That we think of workaholism as a "choice" frankly only indicates how completely corporate America has managed to rewrite and control the dialogue. It should NOT be a foregone conclusion that business "progress" requires human sacrifice. Working hard and destroying souls are two very different things. I don't see any problem with pointing out that some choices have significant negative social externalities, and for that reason should be eliminated (or, if you want to be more libertarian about it, those choices should be negatively subsidized to account for those externalities).
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I've seen the way HR looks at those gaps in a resume. You see "being a mother" they see "always late for work needs extra days off doesn't show up when the baby is sick distracted during meetings uses company time for personal issues".
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All of this makes me never want to get married or have children.
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You know, it is a blaming distraction for anyone to blame bearing children as the reason women don't get promoted. Even if a woman does not have children or doesn't marry, her chances of getting on the C level is very low and on a board, even lower. But it distracts and blames women and puts men like Welch off the hook to get people (men and women) to blame the lack of women on "choices."
Second, what IF a woman devotes a big chunk of her life to getting promoted and does not spend time or as much time on her family as society thinks she should? If she gets promoted, she deserves it. Especially on the top levels, if you devote a ton of time, you deserve it. If you spend hours in the gym, the practice field, hitting the books, etc...you deserve the rewards and if someone can't or won't do that, they don't deserve to the rewards as much as someone who does. Men on the top levels do give up a lot, except society doesn't give them as much crap for it - for hiring nannies and helpers and having a helper wife. But they do give up something for the C level jobs - a good chunk of their lives and being on call 24/7. Not every job should require this, but I don't support the call to "even things out" for those who can't or won't devote themselves for the top jobs. If you do the time and devotion, you should get the prize. At this time, don't forget, don't blame: even women who give up aren't getting an equitable share of the top spots and they'd have us blame this solely on motherhood's choices. And it ain't the case. The childfree women also have an incredibly hard time rising to the top spots. Bias, not time off, is the reason. Let's not be distracted by Welchy.
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So in that sense I agree with Stone.